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  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,076

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Christians can vote and be politically active even if @BearsWiin disagrees.

    What a great country

    My in-laws are pretty devout Christians, but they separate their flying spaghetti monsterism from their politics. It's not that hard to have evidence and reason inform your politics, instead of superstition and tradition.
    Of course it is. Which is why I find it amusing that anyone that doesn't agree with you is accused of not doing so.

    That's why evangelicals vote Trump. They aren't voting for the local preacher and are smart enough to know that

    Oh, and Race, honey, you know as well as I do that evangelicals voted for Trump because their news feed convinced them that Hillary enjoyed performing partial-birth abortions herself every day between afternoon tea and supper, and that the white-haired cretin on the ticket would advance their agenda with the ideologically malleable 30-sec.-attention-span-In-Chief.
    Jesus
    Jesus doesn't care. But why else would they put milquetoasty Mr. "Gay Conversion-therapy-works and we should make mothers hold funerals for their aborted fetuses" on this ticket if not to counter a pussy-grabbing serial philandering 5-kids-by-3-wives guy who couldn't quote a Bible verse to save his life?

    Wife has a young-earther uncle who is a single issue voter. Proclaimed several times on social media that Trump is a horrible human being and not fit for office, but he'd vote for him because Hillary is a babykiller.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Christians can vote and be politically active even if @BearsWiin disagrees.

    What a great country

    My in-laws are pretty devout Christians, but they separate their flying spaghetti monsterism from their politics. It's not that hard to have evidence and reason inform your politics, instead of superstition and tradition.
    Of course it is. Which is why I find it amusing that anyone that doesn't agree with you is accused of not doing so.

    That's why evangelicals vote Trump. They aren't voting for the local preacher and are smart enough to know that

    Oh, and Race, honey, you know as well as I do that evangelicals voted for Trump because their news feed convinced them that Hillary enjoyed performing partial-birth abortions herself every day between afternoon tea and supper, and that the white-haired cretin on the ticket would advance their agenda with the ideologically malleable 30-sec.-attention-span-In-Chief.
    Jesus
    Jesus doesn't care. But why else would they put milquetoasty Mr. "Gay Conversion-therapy-works and we should make mothers hold funerals for their aborted fetuses" on this ticket if not to counter a pussy-grabbing serial philandering 5-kids-by-3-wives guy who couldn't quote a Bible verse to save his life?

    Wife has a young-earther uncle who is a single issue voter. Proclaimed several times on social media that Trump is a horrible human being and not fit for office, but he'd vote for him because Hillary is a babykiller.
    Sounds like you should have picked better genes.

    Just what it sounds like. Don't twist.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,491 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Christians can vote and be politically active even if @BearsWiin disagrees.

    What a great country

    My in-laws are pretty devout Christians, but they separate their flying spaghetti monsterism from their politics. It's not that hard to have evidence and reason inform your politics, instead of superstition and tradition.
    Of course it is. Which is why I find it amusing that anyone that doesn't agree with you is accused of not doing so.

    That's why evangelicals vote Trump. They aren't voting for the local preacher and are smart enough to know that

    Oh, and Race, honey, you know as well as I do that evangelicals voted for Trump because their news feed convinced them that Hillary enjoyed performing partial-birth abortions herself every day between afternoon tea and supper, and that the white-haired cretin on the ticket would advance their agenda with the ideologically malleable 30-sec.-attention-span-In-Chief.
    Jesus
    Jesus doesn't care. But why else would they put milquetoasty Mr. "Gay Conversion-therapy-works and we should make mothers hold funerals for their aborted fetuses" on this ticket if not to counter a pussy-grabbing serial philandering 5-kids-by-3-wives guy who couldn't quote a Bible verse to save his life?

    Wife has a young-earther uncle who is a single issue voter. Proclaimed several times on social media that Trump is a horrible human being and not fit for office, but he'd vote for him because Hillary is a babykiller.
    Jesus
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    BearsWiin said:

    I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.

    It's cute that you think this.
    Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?
    We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.

    The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
    Was Billy a charlatan?

    I'm crushed.

    Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either.
    We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.
    But you need something bigger than yourself... No???
    My DNA needs to survive, thrive, and reproduce. Cooperation conveys a huge survival advantage, so my self-interested impulses need to be channeled within the larger cooperative context; morality arises from our need to cooperate. "Needing" something bigger than myself is merely a shell program on top of the basic instructions, in order to help me survive in the cooperative social environment and propel my DNA into the future. To my mind, it's waay cooler to understnad that my DNA is the result of 3.5 billion years of trial and error in a changing and usually hostile natural environment, rather than that there's some omnipotent bearded guy in the sky who gives a shit about how many times I've had filthy thoughts about Dana Delany.



    Chinteresting... so natural selection. the tribal collective and opposable thumbs. However your ancestors worshipped something and/or somebody besides the bearded Zeus in the Sky throughout their history. All of our ancestors did. For some it did bring peace. For others bondage as it was twisted by man himself.

    Look I don't buy the bearded guy story myself. But I feel the creator of the Universe is a thing and the peace that it brings to the created comes in many forms. And to deny that is pretty short sighted imo. While your DNA is the result of evolution, It was indeed created by something.
    So we'll put @salemcoog in the Jeffersonian Deism retard camp. I can respek that.
    Get back to poasting shit that's not obvious.

    Look Mrs. Snow is from Salem and one of the greatest sports ballers that town ever produced. Out of respect for the Salemites, I have to abstain from your Crusade against Salem Kewg and let you Kewgs sort it out amongst yourselves.
    Is she a Saxon?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    "If you went for a walk in the woods, but then decided to wander off the path, and found yourself surrounded by a thicket of thorns and poison ivy, who would you blame? Would you blame the person who built the path? No, of course not. Instead you’d blame yourself if you were honest, because you alone were responsible for wandering from the path.
    In a far deeper way, this is what happens when we decide to leave God out of our lives. For a time, it may seem like wandering away from Him doesn’t make any difference; it may even seem easier and freer. But eventually it catches up with us—just as wandering off that path and into the thicket caught up with you." —Billy Graham #BG100
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,703 Founders Club
    Don James was a Christian and a bunch of you wanted him fired, yall are going to hell
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    St Peter LoneStarDawg has Spoken
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,511 Standard Supporter
    To the Throbber's way of thinking, it takes way more faith to definitely dismiss the existence of a higher power than to contemplate the possible existence thereof.

    Science and shit is pretty persuasive - but even those fuckers thought the world was flat and the sun revolved around the Earth's position as the center of the universe for centuries....

    The Throbber actually believes there's a bit of science and a bit of spirituality that got us to this fucked up place in history. And generally give zero fucks to plant the flag in either camp in order to change someone else's mind.

    So, in other words, FYFMFE.

  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    To the Throbber's way of thinking, it takes way more faith to definitely dismiss the existence of a higher power than to contemplate the possible existence thereof.

    Science and shit is pretty persuasive - but even those fuckers thought the world was flat and the sun revolved around the Earth's position as the center of the universe for centuries....

    The Throbber actually believes there's a bit of science and a bit of spirituality that got us to this fucked up place in history. And generally give zero fucks to plant the flag in either camp in order to change someone else's mind.

    So, in other words, FYFMFE.

    No it doesn't.