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Laiatu Latu, 4* 2019 BUCK, Carmichael (Jesuit), CA (Committed)

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  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465

    Just for doogs sake, Thibedoeaux is rated the #2 buck, Latu is #6. How big is the divide between them? I know Latu is 30 pounds heavier, but probably not as much of an athletic freak

    I've heard that Thibedoeaux takes plays off from time to time. Almost diva behavior. Fuck, picking a nothing program like Oregon is a diva move to the core. I think we got the better prospect in the long run. Not saying I wouldn't welcome Kayvon with open arms if he were to come here
  • ZoneUW
    ZoneUW Member Posts: 794

    Just for doogs sake, Thibedoeaux is rated the #2 buck, Latu is #6. How big is the divide between them? I know Latu is 30 pounds heavier, but probably not as much of an athletic freak

    I've heard that Thibedoeaux takes plays off from time to time. Almost diva behavior. Fuck, picking a nothing program like Oregon is a diva move to the core. I think we got the better prospect in the long run. Not saying I wouldn't welcome Kayvon with open arms if he were to come here
    Kayvon is probably more fast twitch...
  • jhfstyle24
    jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,255
    ZoneUW said:

    Just for doogs sake, Thibedoeaux is rated the #2 buck, Latu is #6. How big is the divide between them? I know Latu is 30 pounds heavier, but probably not as much of an athletic freak

    I've heard that Thibedoeaux takes plays off from time to time. Almost diva behavior. Fuck, picking a nothing program like Oregon is a diva move to the core. I think we got the better prospect in the long run. Not saying I wouldn't welcome Kayvon with open arms if he were to come here
    Kayvon is probably more fast twitch...
    r/whoosh
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,079 Founders Club
    edited December 2018
    It's his commitment/highlight video. There seems to be a problem with the tweet itself loading *shrug.

    Check out @KobeeByrd32’s Tweet:


  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Just for doogs sake, Thibedoeaux is rated the #2 buck, Latu is #6. How big is the divide between them? I know Latu is 30 pounds heavier, but probably not as much of an athletic freak

    KT much more polished, other than that, very similar. KT maybe 5% better rn.
    Really? I think of KT first step is significant better, but he does not have the same power that this kid does.
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    Kt when motivated sure looks like a 5*.

    When motivated.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited December 2018
    animate said:

    Kt when motivated sure looks like a 5*.

    When motivated.

    It is a motor thing, not everyone can play max effort every play
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Some of you are fucking idiots. This kid is not a fucking Buck. He's as big or bigger than Stephon Wright and Drake Jackson. He's gonna keep getting bigger. He's the fifth defensive lineman in this class whether you like it or not. It's awesome. It's great. Another elite defensive lineman. Stop trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. He's not an OLB that will be standing up on the edge and sometimes dropping into coverage. Just stop with the stupidity. And stop mentioning Latu and Benning in the same fucking sentence. Benning is nowhere near this kid athletically.

    RoofBallz confirmed one mo gain

  • DoogCourics
    DoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739
    Also, it's a good thing DNC is dead, because I think there must be like 400 new notifications for this thread for him.
  • LaMichael_Corleone
    LaMichael_Corleone Member Posts: 1,316

    Just for doogs sake, Thibedoeaux is rated the #2 buck, Latu is #6. How big is the divide between them? I know Latu is 30 pounds heavier, but probably not as much of an athletic freak

    KT much more polished, other than that, very similar. KT maybe 5% better rn.
    KT is also so much more physically matured. The foods face looks like he’s my uncle. Latu just started shaving and still fighting his acne.


    KT is a straight up deer playing football. He’s fast like Josh Sweat but he’s really limited in what he does as far as what he’s asked to do but also his techniques. I think that leads to his frustration which leads to his motor questions. What’s interesting to me is how much Oregon dropped Hollins and Jelks into coverage and I really just see KT as a straight forward speed guy. He’s going to need to develop a little more quickness (different from speed) and get a higher football IQ in order to play on the edge with TE’s and RBs in the flat.


    Latu is almost as raw as they come where the coaches put him a ton at ILB just to go be physical and get to the ball. He’s going to need the opposite development as KT where because he played a lot of ILB, his football IQ and understand how to read blocks will be much higher than KT but he’s going to need to know how to set the edge with physicality against the run and know how to flip his hips when throwing pass rush moves.


    KT is the better player right now because you can’t teach that freakish level of speed. It’s a much more moldable skill to build around and on top of but still needs to have coaches who will actually get him there. I think Latu will add size but people also fail to realize how much coaches control your diet and weight. Latu is Jojo Mathis at 6’5.5 with long arms. KT is a beefier Josh Sweat. They compared Sweat to Clowney all the time but without ANY DEVELOPMENT he’s still just Josh Sweat. If KT has a better head on his shoulders I’d take him but right now with this DL class, gimme Latu.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    animate said:

    Kt when motivated sure looks like a 5*.

    When motivated.

    I think I noticed this firsthand while watching Ethan Calvert's Hudl. This was before bashing KT was a thing, so I was just watching for Calvert. 36 seconds in, though, I got awfully distracted. It's a play where the other team broke a long run or bubble or something, and Calvert is chasing down the play. Only there's this giant kid wearing number 8 who streaks through the film faster than anybody else on the whole field and gets there at the same time even though he started like five yards behind. I had one of those, "Who the hell is that!?" moments and (pathetically) checked their roster to find out that, oh, this is one of the top recruits in the country. Started the Hudl over, and check out the second play: KT pretty much destroys a pass play before it had a chance by overtaking half the opponent's OL. There's another play at 1:36. KT absolutely ragdolls the left tackle attempting to block him.

    And yet he's pretty much MIA for the whole rest of the film. I think watching how a player performs when it's not his highlight reel provides a much more honest assessment. In this case, you can see times where he's just too good from a physical standpoint for the guys across from him--nobody should be that big, fast, and strong at the same time! You can also see a lot of times where he's standing around watching, losing contain, pulling up short, etc. He's also just not on the field for a surprising amount of that reel.

    No way is he a bad pull for Oregon, and I'd be dooging my ballz off if he went Dwag. But the concerns are valid. It'll be a good coaching job if he reaches his physical potential.
  • jhfstyle24
    jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,255
    BlastDoor said:

    animate said:

    Kt when motivated sure looks like a 5*.

    When motivated.

    One thing about that: I like to listen to the recruiting part of the Transparent Truth podcast with Keith Miller and Greg Biggins. It has good info and Biggins isn't as bad of a host as it might appear. Yeah, I'm a loser, but let's not dwell on that.

    To not lose access to recruits, you almost never hear Biggins trashtalk someone. Every player is really talented and has a lot of potential for any team they sign. Kayvon Thibodeaux was one of the only who wasn't praised on that podcast. They outright said that KT takes plays off, sometimes thinks he can slack off and go to the NFL, that he is hard to deal with, and so forth. From that moment on I started thinking that if even the most ball-licking podcast on the internet says KT is an asshole, then Kayvon Thibodeaux must be a tremendous asshole.

    That said, I desperately wanted him.
    Doesn't surprise me at all. Dude who pumped so much hype about his commitment like he was the second coming? I get he has been on the top of the boreds since 15, and he is incredibly talented. There is reason to think there may be concerns

    That being said I would 100% take him in a heartbeat.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Can we get a title change? Mods?
  • Domicillo
    Domicillo Member Posts: 3,025
    edited December 2018
    BlastDoor said:

    animate said:

    Kt when motivated sure looks like a 5*.

    When motivated.

    One thing about that: I like to listen to the recruiting part of the Transparent Truth podcast with Keith Miller and Greg Biggins. It has good info and Biggins isn't as bad of a host as it might appear. Yeah, I'm a loser, but let's not dwell on that.

    To not lose access to recruits, you almost never hear Biggins trashtalk someone. Every player is really talented and has a lot of potential for any team they sign. Kayvon Thibodeaux was one of the only who wasn't praised on that podcast. They outright said that KT takes plays off, sometimes thinks he can slack off and go to the NFL, that he is hard to deal with, and so forth. From that moment on I started thinking that if even the most ball-licking podcast on the internet says KT is an asshole, then Kayvon Thibodeaux must be a tremendous asshole.

    That said, I desperately wanted him.
    He’s said similar things about Chris Steele too. He’s way less PC and confidential on that podcast, it’s almost like he doesn’t think people listen to it haha
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited December 2018
    @Dennis_DeYoung what do you think of his hands? lets just say he dont want to play DL. any chance he plays the PTE/BTE? him tracking the ball at 35 sec of his sr years is crazy
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    @Dennis_DeYoung what do you think of his hands? lets just say he dont want to play DL. any chance he plays the PTE/BTE? him tracking the all at 35 sec of his sr years is crazy

    HIM PLAYING WR AT 260+ SHAKING DUDES AND BLOWONG BY PEOPLE IS THE MOST GORGEOUS THING I HAVE EVER SEEN!
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    @Dennis_DeYoung what do you think of his hands? lets just say he dont want to play DL. any chance he plays the PTE/BTE? him tracking the all at 35 sec of his sr years is crazy

    HIM PLAYING WR AT 260+ SHAKING DUDES AND BLOWONG BY PEOPLE IS THE MOST GORGEOUS THING I HAVE EVER SEEN!
    his coordination and fluidity at his size is unfair to rest of the country
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    @Dennis_DeYoung what do you think of his hands? lets just say he dont want to play DL. any chance he plays the PTE/BTE? him tracking the all at 35 sec of his sr years is crazy

    HIM PLAYING WR AT 260+ SHAKING DUDES AND BLOWONG BY PEOPLE IS THE MOST GORGEOUS THING I HAVE EVER SEEN!
    his coordination and fluidity at his size is unfair to rest of the country
    QBS ARE FUCKING FUCKED!!!
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Also, it's a good thing DNC is dead, because I think there must be like 400 new notifications for this thread for him.

    Hurtful