Justin Flowe - 4* 2020 LB - Upland (HS), CA - (Offered 1/29/18)
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I'll contend until the day I die that every 2019 L save Stanford (total airball no show) fell 100% on breathtakingly terrible coaching decisions, in-game and personnel.
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That's why I used the words "slightly better". It's not just about raw numbers which are totally open to anyone's perception since they are numbers created by so called experts. It's like Neighbor says the national narrative is that Oregon is knocking it out of the park while UW largely flies under the radar. That narrative or perception, whether true or not, has a lot of value in future recruiting. That is why I'm gonna stick with the words "slightly better".DoogCourics said:whuggy said:I think it's fair to say Oregon has recruited slightly better than us in recent years. I also think it's fair to say that with all the talent in Washington in the 2021and 2022 classes, if UW doesn't have a better classes than the Ducks in those years then that would be a failure.
Really trying to understand where this narrative of Oregon Out recruiting UW over the last few years has come from. Because it’s been neck and neck. Oregon some higher rated kids, UW more depth in Blue Chips.Swaye said:
I thought it was pretty much neck and neck the last three years - this year included. We don't have a talent disparity with Oregon. We have poor in game coaching and no hair on our balls.whuggy said:I think it's fair to say Oregon has recruited slightly better than us in recent years. I also think it's fair to say that with all the talent in Washington in the 2021and 2022 classes, if UW doesn't have a better classes than the Ducks in those years then that would be a failure.
It’s been shit coaching and lack of development and playing some shitty older players over giving young dudes a chance.
And those numbers are even better when you look at 247 and not composite. -
Yeah the coaching was dogshit. Playing the wrong players at LB and WR and the terrible play calls at crucial times cost is multiple games.Gladstone said:I'll contend until the day I die that every 2019 L save Stanford (total airball no show) fell 100% on breathtakingly terrible coaching decisions, in-game and personnel.
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right now Oregon's class is pretty light aside from the two 5 stars. I wouldn't call their class as a whole anything special.
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@BearsWiin ???? True????BeerThirty said:right now Oregon's class is pretty light aside from the two 5 stars. I wouldn't call their class as a whole anything special.
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In Race's defense, you have to take context into consideration:DoogCourics said:whuggy said:I think it's fair to say Oregon has recruited slightly better than us in recent years. I also think it's fair to say that with all the talent in Washington in the 2021and 2022 classes, if UW doesn't have a better classes than the Ducks in those years then that would be a failure.
Really trying to understand where this narrative of Oregon Out recruiting UW over the last few years has come from. Because it’s been neck and neck. Oregon some higher rated kids, UW more depth in Blue Chips.Swaye said:
I thought it was pretty much neck and neck the last three years - this year included. We don't have a talent disparity with Oregon. We have poor in game coaching and no hair on our balls.whuggy said:I think it's fair to say Oregon has recruited slightly better than us in recent years. I also think it's fair to say that with all the talent in Washington in the 2021and 2022 classes, if UW doesn't have a better classes than the Ducks in those years then that would be a failure.
It’s been shit coaching and lack of development and playing some shitty older players over giving young dudes a chance.
And those numbers are even better when you look at 247 and not composite.
> Washington thinks it's the king of the North. So naturally, all else being equal, a kid will pick Washington just because Washington.
> Washington had the best coach in the Pac 12. Oregon has had two shit coaches in a row since Kelley and a new guy named Meat who is an overrated recruiter (because Bama recruits itself) with no proven track record.
> Washington has been stable since 2015, won the conference multiple tims and has been to NY6 bowls, while Oregon has been a shit show, going 4-8 just 5 minutes ago.
Against THAT backdrop, yes, Oregon has kicked Washington's ass. Said another way, what will this look like if it turns out Meat can coach and Oregon wins a little more?
