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Justin Flowe - 4* 2020 LB - Upland (HS), CA - (Offered 1/29/18)

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  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861

    dnc said:

    Sav’ell was the #3 recruit in the country and stopped going to camps and on visits etc. He’s the better it’s not even close. Will be fun to see it play out lol.

    Stopped going to camps because he had issues with them and FSP.

    I like Savell a lot. I'm thrilled he's coming here. But he won't be an instant impact player, and it's not because you can't make an instant impact at edge (hi KT!).

    Sewell is a monster. I'm not sure I'd trade Savell for Sewell but I'd trade Savell's 2020 season for Sewell's rather easily.

    And I'd surely trade him for Flowe. Flowe's incredible.

    Now's the part where you call me a doog for liking Oregon top D recruits better than Smalls.
    No. I’d rather have the guy with a higher ceiling that isn’t close to his physical ceiling. As good as those guys are they’re basically 22 year olds playing HS football. Also ILB is not nearly as important as edge talent. I never said he’ll have a KT like FR season. But he’ll definitely contribute next year. He’s too big, quick, and fast not to contribute lol.
    I’ve tried staying out of this one.

    But saying ILB isn’t nearly as important as edge talent seems a little silly after the season I just witnessed.

    For years we bitched about our lack of heat from the edge but still enjoyed elite defenses because we had good ILB.

    This year, we bitched because teams ran it right down our throat and made short passes into longer gains because our ILB couldn’t fill their run fits and couldn’t cover passes.


    Edit:

    Both are critical. We need as many amazing players as we can get and need them in every position. I’m not willing to say one is more critics than another, because I’ve been on the other side of the fence, and the grass is shitty on both.
    No shit you can’t have retards anywhere on the field or you’re fucked
  • dooginthehalldooginthehall Member Posts: 182
    Wiltfoong just cristoballzd
  • TheironshiekTheironshiek Member Posts: 167
    U$C is going to offer top dollar for this kid to try and save their class. I wouldn’t count them out yet.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Swaye said:

    @backthepack more fun kid blasting college vagina, less @Ballz impersonations

    TIA

    wrong.....he is the one getting his anus blasted.....hence the nick name “Angel Anus”
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    SAV’ELL PLAYED WR IN HS AS A 240 POUND DE BUT HES NOT GOOD IN HS?!?
    LOL

    So dumb. Everyone knows he’s a great athlete.

    A player that dominates in high school has a better chance of dominating in college. Same with college to the pros. Smalls wasn’t dominant at DE/OLB in high school.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    dnc said:

    Sav’ell was the #3 recruit in the country and stopped going to camps and on visits etc. He’s the better it’s not even close. Will be fun to see it play out lol.

    Stopped going to camps because he had issues with them and FSP.

    I like Savell a lot. I'm thrilled he's coming here. But he won't be an instant impact player, and it's not because you can't make an instant impact at edge (hi KT!).

    Sewell is a monster. I'm not sure I'd trade Savell for Sewell but I'd trade Savell's 2020 season for Sewell's rather easily.

    And I'd surely trade him for Flowe. Flowe's incredible.

    Now's the part where you call me a doog for liking Oregon top D recruits better than Smalls.
    No. I’d rather have the guy with a higher ceiling that isn’t close to his physical ceiling. As good as those guys are they’re basically 22 year olds playing HS football. Also ILB is not nearly as important as edge talent. I never said he’ll have a KT like FR season. But he’ll definitely contribute next year. He’s too big, quick, and fast not to contribute lol.
    I’ve tried staying out of this one.

    But saying ILB isn’t nearly as important as edge talent seems a little silly after the season I just witnessed.

    For years we bitched about our lack of heat from the edge but still enjoyed elite defenses because we had good ILB.

    This year, we bitched because teams ran it right down our throat and made short passes into longer gains because our ILB couldn’t fill their run fits and couldn’t cover passes.


    Edit:

    Both are critical. We need as many amazing players as we can get and need them in every position. I’m not willing to say one is more critics than another, because I’ve been on the other side of the fence, and the grass is shitty on both.
    It’s like saying tackle is more important than guard. Then when you get no push from your interior OL and guys are in the QB’s face all the time, you realize all positions are important.
  • Ice_HolmvikIce_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912

    Sav’ell was hurt his junior year, he still has some baby fat, and a baby face and hasn’t neared his peak physically even when compared to the JTT who is a year or two younger. Sav’ell hasn’t consistently trained at FSP/an elite training program like Hunter, Salvon, Kyler, and other great athletes we’ve had from FSP. The UDUB coaches will force him to be in a strict regimen, his Garfield years didnt help much. But this is the projection business.

    OLB/Edge players take a while because of how difficult OL are to beat in college vs what their used to OL’s being in HS. He is 6’3.5 240, runs a 4.6, has elite small space quickness and feet that are quicker than any OLB’s in the country that allow him to be a matchup nightmare both when rushing the passer, dropping in coverage, or shedding blocks in the run game. He can literally be a complete player who makes so much money doing the most important thing you can do in football outside of throwing the football, rushing the guy who throws the football.

    He can also eliminate his side of the field on short routes when dropping into pass. Think of the amazing play in coverage Tevis Bartlett had against Utah in the PAC-12 title. Sav’ell’s feet are godly compared to Tevis’ that were too slow to let him play ILB. In a different era Sav’ell could easily be a better ILB than both Flowe and Sewell. They are just much more physically developed than he is and have been in better structured team environments and have had better coaches etc.

    Sorry, all I read was a bunch of excuses on why he's not a better player. He quit FSP training this spring, stopped competing and mocked players who did and basically didn't take his craft seriously while Sewell trained like crazy and competed in everything he could. And if we are talking about quickness and footspeed, Sewell blows Smalls out of the water which is what makes him so special. There is a reason why schools like Georgia, Ohio State and Alabama were going after Sewell while schools like Tennessee, Florida State and Washington State were pursuing Smalls.
    Excuses? Fine. He’s going to have structure. Again come back to me in 4 years when Sav’ell gets drafted higher than Noah. Again we aren’t ranking this off of who is the better HS prospect.


    Also think it’s funny that you act like you played football. Haha. But go on!
    Quit gaying this place up Spaz.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    Come back in 4-5 years and we’ll see who the better player is.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,875

    LMC is so fucking stupid. Questioning whether Smalls is overrated has nothing to do with race. Most of our recruits are black. People question him because they have gone to games and weren’t very impressed by his play. That’s it.

    LMC gonna LMC
  • CanadawgCanadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,702 Swaye's Wigwam
    So if smalls is better than sewell we get flowe? Am I reading this right?
  • sonics1993sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460
    edited December 2019
    USC making it's push on Flowe and Bryce Young, let's see if they still can close.
  • dtddtd Member Posts: 4,733 Standard Supporter
  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,244

    USC making it's push on Flowe and Bryce Young, let's see if they still can close.

    It likely wont happen but the meltdown on the Oregon bored will be glorious if he picks USC
  • TheironshiekTheironshiek Member Posts: 167
    edited December 2019
    Sounds like the bag man came through for usc. What’s Bamas qb back up plan if they loose Young? The one position that USC actually has depth at is QB. Oh and people who pay players.
  • dtddtd Member Posts: 4,733 Standard Supporter

    USC making it's push on Flowe and Bryce Young, let's see if they still can close.

    It likely wont happen but the meltdown on the Oregon bored will be glorious if he picks USC
    I don't think anyone really believes he'll pick Oregon.
  • dtd said:

    USC lock.

    Had they fired Helton, I’d agree. There needs to be an amber alert for the USC program.
  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    dtd said:

    USC making it's push on Flowe and Bryce Young, let's see if they still can close.

    It likely wont happen but the meltdown on the Oregon bored will be glorious if he picks USC
    I don't think anyone really believes he'll pick Oregon.
    All the recent CBs have been for Oregon so apparently some ppl think he's going there...
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