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  • LaZoris
    LaZoris Member Posts: 1,734 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2018

    I see the combo of Hop and his defense in a very hollow gym atmosphere(pac12 tourney) being a very good combo for the huskies. It's hard enough to beat a very disciplined defensive team, let alone when you're shooting in a weird gym with odd backdrop. I also want to BRBJO for saying disciplined defensive team. It's so foreign. Disciplined defensive team. Yup, still feels good.

    This used to be one of my favorite doog excuses from about 10 yrs ago... Hope to see other teams using it against MY DWAGS!
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Tequilla said:

    Arizona is unlikely as a win ... but obviously if we can somehow pull that one off the tournament path goes from "work to do" to "don't fuck it up"

    The keys to me going forward are the at Stanford, home vs Utah, and home vs Oregon. The 2 games against the Beavs, at Cal, and Colorado are games that we need to get. No excuses for any of those. Of the above, if we can somehow pull 2 of those games then I'm really liking our chances and that might get us up into an 8/9 type range and away from the play in game.

    The worst case scenario to me would be getting to 11-7 or 12-6 in conference, losing at Stanford for the season sweep, and then having to play them in either the 3/6 or 4/5 game in Vegas and losing to them again. That's where I think it might get dicey. Same obviously if Oregon sweeps us and then the same scenario plays out in Vegas.

    Where myself and many diehard UW fans have gone wrong is the crutch of feeling romar UW teams. We're used to the easy wins(aka home games) and the verifiable road losses. What Hop has brought into the equation that all of us have purely forgotten is that he will put a mediocre team on the floor and make it competitive every night. It's not to say the guys on the floor are shit, but comparatively in recruiting world they are not on par with many teams they face. Hop has put in a system with discipline and teamwork which makes close games turn into wins that romar would have never sniffed.

    Everyone, even the doogliest of doogs complained about romar and late game decisions, or time outs or out of bounds plays. Nobody sees that right now and those 6 extra points win the ASU game. It's very subtle because we don't have a #1 draft pick, but it wins ballgames which is what people give a fuck about.

    The game isn't about winning by 20, it's about being competitive every night and giving our? guys a chance to win. That's what hop has brought this team and i hope to see as he progresses in recruiting.
    How many times in the last 5 years did we watch Romar lose when up 3 with under 20 seconds to go. I bet he was under 50% in that scenario.

    Not to mention that if he were ever up 10, 12, 14 points and the other team came back, like what happened against both zona and ASU, there's zero chance we would win.

    The last few years, the common theme on Romars team was not getting back on defense, giving the other team so many easy fast break points. Zero hustle or try hard on the teams. Hop has completely changed that, these kids fight hard every night.

    @Shenexon is hustling a Jim bieheim thing too? Or something different Hopkins is bringing to the table?
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,757
    Tequilla said:

    Arizona is unlikely as a win ... but obviously if we can somehow pull that one off the tournament path goes from "work to do" to "don't fuck it up"

    The keys to me going forward are the at Stanford, home vs Utah, and home vs Oregon. The 2 games against the Beavs, at Cal, and Colorado are games that we need to get. No excuses for any of those. Of the above, if we can somehow pull 2 of those games then I'm really liking our chances and that might get us up into an 8/9 type range and away from the play in game.

    The worst case scenario to me would be getting to 11-7 or 12-6 in conference, losing at Stanford for the season sweep, and then having to play them in either the 3/6 or 4/5 game in Vegas and losing to them again. That's where I think it might get dicey. Same obviously if Oregon sweeps us and then the same scenario plays out in Vegas.

    Hop tells teq to fuck off
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Shenexon said:

    2001400ex said:

    Tequilla said:

    Arizona is unlikely as a win ... but obviously if we can somehow pull that one off the tournament path goes from "work to do" to "don't fuck it up"

    The keys to me going forward are the at Stanford, home vs Utah, and home vs Oregon. The 2 games against the Beavs, at Cal, and Colorado are games that we need to get. No excuses for any of those. Of the above, if we can somehow pull 2 of those games then I'm really liking our chances and that might get us up into an 8/9 type range and away from the play in game.

    The worst case scenario to me would be getting to 11-7 or 12-6 in conference, losing at Stanford for the season sweep, and then having to play them in either the 3/6 or 4/5 game in Vegas and losing to them again. That's where I think it might get dicey. Same obviously if Oregon sweeps us and then the same scenario plays out in Vegas.

    Where myself and many diehard UW fans have gone wrong is the crutch of feeling romar UW teams. We're used to the easy wins(aka home games) and the verifiable road losses. What Hop has brought into the equation that all of us have purely forgotten is that he will put a mediocre team on the floor and make it competitive every night. It's not to say the guys on the floor are shit, but comparatively in recruiting world they are not on par with many teams they face. Hop has put in a system with discipline and teamwork which makes close games turn into wins that romar would have never sniffed.

    Everyone, even the doogliest of doogs complained about romar and late game decisions, or time outs or out of bounds plays. Nobody sees that right now and those 6 extra points win the ASU game. It's very subtle because we don't have a #1 draft pick, but it wins ballgames which is what people give a fuck about.

    The game isn't about winning by 20, it's about being competitive every night and giving our? guys a chance to win. That's what hop has brought this team and i hope to see as he progresses in recruiting.
    How many times in the last 5 years did we watch Romar lose when up 3 with under 20 seconds to go. I bet he was under 50% in that scenario.

    Not to mention that if he were ever up 10, 12, 14 points and the other team came back, like what happened against both zona and ASU, there's zero chance we would win.

    The last few years, the common theme on Romars team was not getting back on defense, giving the other team so many easy fast break points. Zero hustle or try hard on the teams. Hop has completely changed that, these kids fight hard every night.

    @Shenexon is hustling a Jim bieheim thing too? Or something different Hopkins is bringing to the table?
    Tough defense is a Boeheim thing and hustle is part of his mantra, but Hopkins was one of the people that made that happen on a real level. Hopkins was all hustle when he was a player and inspired SU players to hustle in every practice. He ran practices for Boeheim for a decade I think. Both are very competitive guys and bring that out in kids.

    They want to win every loose ball, every rebound, every shot, and every game. Hopkins is more positive and charismatic than Boeheim, who comes off as an old curmudgeon, but they both sell that the game is won or lost with every loose ball.

    I loved Hopkins post-game thank you's to the crowd last nite. The crowd can be a huge advantage and he seems to have the crowd rocking. Our team is suffering horribly this year but we still had 27,000 at a game yesterday. Hopkins helped to build that kind of fan support...
    Watching him on the court last night after the game surrounded by the students. Then giving a shout-out to the fans was pretty awesome to watch.

    The more I think about the game, it was impressive how average they made Ayton look. Part of that was Dickerson just straight up ballin. But on paper we shouldn't be able to compete against ristic and Ayton. I didn't realize Ayton is supposed to be the number 1 pick until after the game.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,700 Founders Club
    It's nice to get mentioned as a bubble team before losing to Oregon fucking mountain west fucking State
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    haie said:

    It's nice to get mentioned as a bubble team before losing to Oregon fucking mountain west fucking State

    #FireHop!
  • blackmamba
    blackmamba Member Posts: 184

    TheHB said:

    dnc said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    Nice doog preemptive lowering of expectations

    with majority of games at home and how bad the p12 is

    it is very much a possibility

    21 wins and in. 22 guaranteed. 20 maybe. this team won at fucking kansas

    David Crisp is our point guard.

    We?re a year away.
    I’m hearing 2020 will be special.
    We'll beat Oregon, Oregon fucking sucks. OSU is better.
    Nope
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,061 Founders Club


    "We’ve been discussing for weeks what makes a bubble team worthy of inclusion and we keep circling back to best wins rather than volume of losses." Well we've still got that I guess. Better that we beat the Az schools at home and lost to the Or schools on the road.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Not looking good
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Not looking good

    TSIO
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    People don't talk enough about the times @dnc is right.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Welp. Colorado really really sucks on the road.


    Axe me how I know.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    People don't talk enough about the times @dnc is right.


  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    dnc said:

    People don't talk enough about the times @dnc is right.


    That one time ... at band camp ...
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    TheHB said:

    dnc said:

    People don't talk enough about the times @dnc is right.


    That one time ... at band camp ...
    hurtful
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    BaldwinIV said:

    Nice doog preemptive lowering of expectations

    with majority of games at home and how bad the p12 is

    it is very much a possibility

    21 wins and in. 22 guaranteed. 20 maybe. this team won at fucking kansas

    20 and not a fucking chance.

    21 wouldn't have gotten it done either.