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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    edited January 2018

    Pretty much. Fucking leave. What other country in the world tolerates illegal immigration to the extent that the US does? In what other country does one of major parties act like the wellbeing of illegals is more important than the wellbeing of its own citizens?

    Illiterate trumpanzee potd!
    Leader in the clubhouse: illiterate trumpanzee potd!

    Edit: way to edit your post you fucking pussy.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    I want to overstay my welcome in China. It's the decent thing to do for them to let me stay. I have the RIGHT to be there and stay permanently. Said no one ever, because China doesn't have fucking retarded policies, like the US does.

    First you cry like a bitch about a US federal government that isn’t as nativist, protectionist, nationalist, and isolationist as you deem necessary for troomp’s unskilled and uneducated followers. But then you say China’s policies, which do exactly what you want, are retarded?

    Trumpanzee gonna trumpanzee.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Pretty much. Fucking leave. What other country in the world tolerates illegal immigration to the extent that the US does? In what other country does one of major parties act like the wellbeing of illegals is more important than the wellbeing of its own citizens?

    So you are an @Swaye now?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    I think they're home countries is a fine place for them. Trim the list some more.

    You must be an @Swaye too?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    I'm starting to think that @CirrhosisDawg is here illegally

    Triggered

    Just like DACAs and Salvadorans, I’ll never be deported.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    I'm starting to think that @CirrhosisDawg is here illegally

    Triggered

    Just like DACAs and Salvadorans, I’ll never be deported.
    You should do the right thing for the good of the country and deport yourself so ICE doesn't have to spend taxpayer money doing it.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited January 2018
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    But but but.... Half of the 200,000 are homeowners!!!!

    I find this funny...

    First, why were banks loaning houses to temporary status residents? Seems like a risk for if they have to leave, the bank is left holding the note.

    Second, why are they buying homes to begin with? If I got granted temporary status in let's say Italy, the last thing I'm going to do is buy "real property" until know for sure i'm a permanent resident, or I'm extremely rich and it could be a vacation home (Which 99.9999% of these people wouldn't qualify as). That just isn't very smart.

    Third, Hell yes they should still be paying taxes. While they are here, they benefit from public schools, law enforcement, parks, roads, etc. Paying taxes doesn't implant somebody here. It's an obligation that all people should pay if they receive benefit from it.
    Is anyone arguing they shouldn't pay taxes?
    They're arguing that since most are paying taxes, they should be able to stay.

    I'm saying that paying taxes doesn't grant you permanent residency.
    I didn't know about this issue until today. But I kinda think that after 18 years of kicking the can by both parties. That yes, temporary is over and for the people who established families here, let them stay. That's the government's fault for letting them stay this long. We should fix it, not boot them.

    But y'all should ignore basic human decency and side with Trump. Because he said so.
    People take advantage of basic human decency, which is why we have laws. Just because the previous three administration ignored the law and congress on both sides ignored it doesn't make it an obligation that the 4th in line also turns a blind eye.

    If I don't pay taxes for 24 years, and the government doesn't act until year 25, does that mean the previous 24 years are forgiven?

    The government sitting on their thumbs is no excuse for people to assume temporary means anything other than temporary. And yes there were ways over the last 15 years for many of the people to be granted citizenship, if they were willing to go through the hoops to get it done.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Not for long. California's pressing will be its undoing. Push it too far and you're going to have troops enforcing the law. Stupid faggots, you're also jeopardizing legal weed by drawing all this attention to yourselves over not deporting the foreign spics.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Not for long. California's pressing will be its undoing. Push it too far and you're going to have troops enforcing the law. Stupid faggots, you're also jeopardizing legal weed by drawing all this attention to yourselves over not deporting the foreign spics.
    I have to respond...

    The government will NEVER send it troops to force any state to follow federal law period. That was made pretty well clear by our founding fathers. Now could the federal government withhold federal funds from sanctuary states? That will be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Not for long. California's pressing will be its undoing. Push it too far and you're going to have troops enforcing the law. Stupid faggots, you're also jeopardizing legal weed by drawing all this attention to yourselves over not deporting the foreign spics.
    I have to respond...

    The government will NEVER send it troops to force any state to follow federal law period. That was made pretty well clear by our founding fathers. Now could the federal government withhold federal funds from sanctuary states? That will be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
    lol,

    Dwight D. Einsenhower and I shared a hearty laugh over this one. The confederate states and I had an even bigger laugh at your expense.


  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    But but but.... Half of the 200,000 are homeowners!!!!

    I find this funny...

    First, why were banks loaning houses to temporary status residents? Seems like a risk for if they have to leave, the bank is left holding the note.

    Second, why are they buying homes to begin with? If I got granted temporary status in let's say Italy, the last thing I'm going to do is buy "real property" until know for sure i'm a permanent resident, or I'm extremely rich and it could be a vacation home (Which 99.9999% of these people wouldn't qualify as). That just isn't very smart.

    Third, Hell yes they should still be paying taxes. While they are here, they benefit from public schools, law enforcement, parks, roads, etc. Paying taxes doesn't implant somebody here. It's an obligation that all people should pay if they receive benefit from it.
    Is anyone arguing they shouldn't pay taxes?
    They're arguing that since most are paying taxes, they should be able to stay.

    I'm saying that paying taxes doesn't grant you permanent residency.
    I didn't know about this issue until today. But I kinda think that after 18 years of kicking the can by both parties. That yes, temporary is over and for the people who established families here, let them stay. That's the government's fault for letting them stay this long. We should fix it, not boot them.

    But y'all should ignore basic human decency and side with Trump. Because he said so.
    People take advantage of basic human decency, which is why we have laws. Just because the previous three administration ignored the law and congress on both sides ignored it doesn't make it an obligation that the 4th in line also turns a blind eye.

    If I don't pay taxes for 24 years, and the government doesn't act until year 25, does that mean the previous 24 years are forgiven?

    The government sitting on their thumbs is no excuse for people to assume temporary means anything other than temporary. And yes there were ways over the last 15 years for many of the people to be granted citizenship, if they were willing to go through the hoops to get it done.
    Da fuq kind of example is that? They were here legally under the law and paid taxes. Your example is not obeying the law.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,595 Standard Supporter
    I'm hearing they have families to feed.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    Do they have a CONTRACT?
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Sledog said:

    I think they're home countries is a fine place for them. Trim the list some more.

    ESL?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,682 Standard Supporter

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Commie Kali dem post of the day!

    Double the number of ICE agents disagrees!

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,682 Standard Supporter

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    But but but.... Half of the 200,000 are homeowners!!!!

    I find this funny...

    First, why were banks loaning houses to temporary status residents? Seems like a risk for if they have to leave, the bank is left holding the note.

    Second, why are they buying homes to begin with? If I got granted temporary status in let's say Italy, the last thing I'm going to do is buy "real property" until know for sure i'm a permanent resident, or I'm extremely rich and it could be a vacation home (Which 99.9999% of these people wouldn't qualify as). That just isn't very smart.

    Third, Hell yes they should still be paying taxes. While they are here, they benefit from public schools, law enforcement, parks, roads, etc. Paying taxes doesn't implant somebody here. It's an obligation that all people should pay if they receive benefit from it.
    Is anyone arguing they shouldn't pay taxes?
    They're arguing that since most are paying taxes, they should be able to stay.

    I'm saying that paying taxes doesn't grant you permanent residency.
    I didn't know about this issue until today. But I kinda think that after 18 years of kicking the can by both parties. That yes, temporary is over and for the people who established families here, let them stay. That's the government's fault for letting them stay this long. We should fix it, not boot them.

    But y'all should ignore basic human decency and side with Trump. Because he said so.
    People take advantage of basic human decency, which is why we have laws. Just because the previous three administration ignored the law and congress on both sides ignored it doesn't make it an obligation that the 4th in line also turns a blind eye.

    If I don't pay taxes for 24 years, and the government doesn't act until year 25, does that mean the previous 24 years are forgiven?

    The government sitting on their thumbs is no excuse for people to assume temporary means anything other than temporary. And yes there were ways over the last 15 years for many of the people to be granted citizenship, if they were willing to go through the hoops to get it done.
    Yeah, that whole enforcing the laws of the land thingy.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited January 2018

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Not for long. California's pressing will be its undoing. Push it too far and you're going to have troops enforcing the law. Stupid faggots, you're also jeopardizing legal weed by drawing all this attention to yourselves over not deporting the foreign spics.
    I have to respond...

    The government will NEVER send it troops to force any state to follow federal law period. That was made pretty well clear by our founding fathers. Now could the federal government withhold federal funds from sanctuary states? That will be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
    lol,

    Dwight D. Einsenhower and I shared a hearty laugh over this one. The confederate states and I had an even bigger laugh at your expense.


    I forgot about that. But even in doing the right thing, and he still took a ton of heat from it. Could you imagine the shit storm our government would face if they perform the remake of the "Night of Broken Glass" to individual states?
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Not for long. California's pressing will be its undoing. Push it too far and you're going to have troops enforcing the law. Stupid faggots, you're also jeopardizing legal weed by drawing all this attention to yourselves over not deporting the foreign spics.
    I have to respond...

    The government will NEVER send it troops to force any state to follow federal law period. That was made pretty well clear by our founding fathers. Now could the federal government withhold federal funds from sanctuary states? That will be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
    lol,

    Dwight D. Einsenhower and I shared a hearty laugh over this one. The confederate states and I had an even bigger laugh at your expense.


    I forgot about that. But even in doing the right thing, and he still took a ton of heat from it. Could you imagine the shit storm our government would face if they perform the remake of the "Night of Broken Glass" to individual states?
    Night of the broken glass? Silly comparison.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,026

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Not for long. California's pressing will be its undoing. Push it too far and you're going to have troops enforcing the law. Stupid faggots, you're also jeopardizing legal weed by drawing all this attention to yourselves over not deporting the foreign spics.
    I have to respond...

    The government will NEVER send it troops to force any state to follow federal law period. That was made pretty well clear by our founding fathers. Now could the federal government withhold federal funds from sanctuary states? That will be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
    lol,

    Dwight D. Einsenhower and I shared a hearty laugh over this one. The confederate states and I had an even bigger laugh at your expense.


    I forgot about that. But even in doing the right thing, and he still took a ton of heat from it. Could you imagine the shit storm our government would face if they perform the remake of the "Night of Broken Glass" to individual states?
    JFK also sent federal troops into Mississippi following James Meredith's enrollment at Ole Miss.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,026
    edited January 2018

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Not for long. California's pressing will be its undoing. Push it too far and you're going to have troops enforcing the law. Stupid faggots, you're also jeopardizing legal weed by drawing all this attention to yourselves over not deporting the foreign spics.
    I have to respond...

    The government will NEVER send it troops to force any state to follow federal law period. That was made pretty well clear by our founding fathers. Now could the federal government withhold federal funds from sanctuary states? That will be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
    lol,

    Dwight D. Einsenhower and I shared a hearty laugh over this one. The confederate states and I had an even bigger laugh at your expense.


    I forgot about that. But even in doing the right thing, and he still took a ton of heat from it. Could you imagine the shit storm our government would face if they perform the remake of the "Night of Broken Glass" to individual states?
    JFK also sent federal troops into Mississippi following James Meredith's enrollment at Ole Miss.

    Bush sent in federal troops to quell the LA riots in 1992.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,026

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Not for long. California's pressing will be its undoing. Push it too far and you're going to have troops enforcing the law. Stupid faggots, you're also jeopardizing legal weed by drawing all this attention to yourselves over not deporting the foreign spics.
    I have to respond...

    The government will NEVER send it troops to force any state to follow federal law period. That was made pretty well clear by our founding fathers. Now could the federal government withhold federal funds from sanctuary states? That will be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
    lol,

    Dwight D. Einsenhower and I shared a hearty laugh over this one. The confederate states and I had an even bigger laugh at your expense.


    I forgot about that. But even in doing the right thing, and he still took a ton of heat from it. Could you imagine the shit storm our government would face if they perform the remake of the "Night of Broken Glass" to individual states?
    LBJ sent in federal troops to multiple cities after MLK Jr was assassinated.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,026

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Not for long. California's pressing will be its undoing. Push it too far and you're going to have troops enforcing the law. Stupid faggots, you're also jeopardizing legal weed by drawing all this attention to yourselves over not deporting the foreign spics.
    I have to respond...

    The government will NEVER send it troops to force any state to follow federal law period. That was made pretty well clear by our founding fathers. Now could the federal government withhold federal funds from sanctuary states? That will be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
    lol,

    Dwight D. Einsenhower and I shared a hearty laugh over this one. The confederate states and I had an even bigger laugh at your expense.


    I forgot about that. But even in doing the right thing, and he still took a ton of heat from it. Could you imagine the shit storm our government would face if they perform the remake of the "Night of Broken Glass" to individual states?
    Bush sent in federal troops to stop looting after Hurricane Hugo.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,026

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Not for long. California's pressing will be its undoing. Push it too far and you're going to have troops enforcing the law. Stupid faggots, you're also jeopardizing legal weed by drawing all this attention to yourselves over not deporting the foreign spics.
    I have to respond...

    The government will NEVER send it troops to force any state to follow federal law period. That was made pretty well clear by our founding fathers. Now could the federal government withhold federal funds from sanctuary states? That will be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
    lol,

    Dwight D. Einsenhower and I shared a hearty laugh over this one. The confederate states and I had an even bigger laugh at your expense.


    I forgot about that. But even in doing the right thing, and he still took a ton of heat from it. Could you imagine the shit storm our government would face if they perform the remake of the "Night of Broken Glass" to individual states?
    but...but....Trump.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Not for long. California's pressing will be its undoing. Push it too far and you're going to have troops enforcing the law. Stupid faggots, you're also jeopardizing legal weed by drawing all this attention to yourselves over not deporting the foreign spics.
    I have to respond...

    The government will NEVER send it troops to force any state to follow federal law period. That was made pretty well clear by our founding fathers. Now could the federal government withhold federal funds from sanctuary states? That will be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
    lol,

    Dwight D. Einsenhower and I shared a hearty laugh over this one. The confederate states and I had an even bigger laugh at your expense.


    I forgot about that. But even in doing the right thing, and he still took a ton of heat from it. Could you imagine the shit storm our government would face if they perform the remake of the "Night of Broken Glass" to individual states?
    but...but....Trump.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,026
    2001400ex said:

    I am a Californian and California is a sanctuary state. Trump bullshit does not apply here. HTH.

    Not for long. California's pressing will be its undoing. Push it too far and you're going to have troops enforcing the law. Stupid faggots, you're also jeopardizing legal weed by drawing all this attention to yourselves over not deporting the foreign spics.
    I have to respond...

    The government will NEVER send it troops to force any state to follow federal law period. That was made pretty well clear by our founding fathers. Now could the federal government withhold federal funds from sanctuary states? That will be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
    lol,

    Dwight D. Einsenhower and I shared a hearty laugh over this one. The confederate states and I had an even bigger laugh at your expense.


    I forgot about that. But even in doing the right thing, and he still took a ton of heat from it. Could you imagine the shit storm our government would face if they perform the remake of the "Night of Broken Glass" to individual states?
    but...but....Trump.

    It wouldn't bother me - Chicago is an awesome city with some really shitty parts.

    That said, unless bruthas killing one is a federal offense, Trump probably doesn't have legal standing under federal law to send in the National Guard.


  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    But but but.... Half of the 200,000 are homeowners!!!!

    I find this funny...

    First, why were banks loaning houses to temporary status residents? Seems like a risk for if they have to leave, the bank is left holding the note.

    Second, why are they buying homes to begin with? If I got granted temporary status in let's say Italy, the last thing I'm going to do is buy "real property" until know for sure i'm a permanent resident, or I'm extremely rich and it could be a vacation home (Which 99.9999% of these people wouldn't qualify as). That just isn't very smart.

    Third, Hell yes they should still be paying taxes. While they are here, they benefit from public schools, law enforcement, parks, roads, etc. Paying taxes doesn't implant somebody here. It's an obligation that all people should pay if they receive benefit from it.
    Is anyone arguing they shouldn't pay taxes?
    They're arguing that since most are paying taxes, they should be able to stay.

    I'm saying that paying taxes doesn't grant you permanent residency.
    I didn't know about this issue until today. But I kinda think that after 18 years of kicking the can by both parties. That yes, temporary is over and for the people who established families here, let them stay. That's the government's fault for letting them stay this long. We should fix it, not boot them.

    But y'all should ignore basic human decency and side with Trump. Because he said so.
    People take advantage of basic human decency, which is why we have laws. Just because the previous three administration ignored the law and congress on both sides ignored it doesn't make it an obligation that the 4th in line also turns a blind eye.

    If I don't pay taxes for 24 years, and the government doesn't act until year 25, does that mean the previous 24 years are forgiven?

    The government sitting on their thumbs is no excuse for people to assume temporary means anything other than temporary. And yes there were ways over the last 15 years for many of the people to be granted citizenship, if they were willing to go through the hoops to get it done.
    Da fuq kind of example is that? They were here legally under the law and paid taxes. Your example is not obeying the law.
    They're in the country legally until they overstay their temporary visas at which time they are here illegally. That's the point dumbass.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    But but but.... Half of the 200,000 are homeowners!!!!

    I find this funny...

    First, why were banks loaning houses to temporary status residents? Seems like a risk for if they have to leave, the bank is left holding the note.

    Second, why are they buying homes to begin with? If I got granted temporary status in let's say Italy, the last thing I'm going to do is buy "real property" until know for sure i'm a permanent resident, or I'm extremely rich and it could be a vacation home (Which 99.9999% of these people wouldn't qualify as). That just isn't very smart.

    Third, Hell yes they should still be paying taxes. While they are here, they benefit from public schools, law enforcement, parks, roads, etc. Paying taxes doesn't implant somebody here. It's an obligation that all people should pay if they receive benefit from it.
    Is anyone arguing they shouldn't pay taxes?
    They're arguing that since most are paying taxes, they should be able to stay.

    I'm saying that paying taxes doesn't grant you permanent residency.
    I didn't know about this issue until today. But I kinda think that after 18 years of kicking the can by both parties. That yes, temporary is over and for the people who established families here, let them stay. That's the government's fault for letting them stay this long. We should fix it, not boot them.

    But y'all should ignore basic human decency and side with Trump. Because he said so.
    People take advantage of basic human decency, which is why we have laws. Just because the previous three administration ignored the law and congress on both sides ignored it doesn't make it an obligation that the 4th in line also turns a blind eye.

    If I don't pay taxes for 24 years, and the government doesn't act until year 25, does that mean the previous 24 years are forgiven?

    The government sitting on their thumbs is no excuse for people to assume temporary means anything other than temporary. And yes there were ways over the last 15 years for many of the people to be granted citizenship, if they were willing to go through the hoops to get it done.
    Da fuq kind of example is that? They were here legally under the law and paid taxes. Your example is not obeying the law.
    They're in the country legally until they overstay their temporary visas at which time they are here illegally. That's the point dumbass.
    Great analysis.

    You do understand, however, that no DACAs nor any Salvadorans are getting deported? That Trump’s immigration, trade and foreign policy excretions are all bullshit?

    Hopefully the US federal government shuts down once and for all Jan 19. Good luck on the border wall! Maybe Mexico will pay for it.

    Troomp gonna troomp.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,682 Standard Supporter
    Democrats only see illegal immigrants of all kinds as votes for them. That's why Obozo created DACA and the dems admit it openly. This is not how are country operates!