I've been really intrigued by this story. At first, I thought Martin was just a huge pussy (he still is to an extent), but Incognito is just a terrible person. Did you see what Incognito's dad posted on the Dolphins board? It's on deadspin, and he says Martin and Pouncey are drug addicts, Philbin should die of aids, rap music uses n****** so it's not wrong, etc. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
I'm interested if anyone will touch Martin. He's going to been seen as soft by every team, and the players will have a field day with him. He made the wrong move by walking out and quitting.
Huh? What would happen if Martin, a 2nd year, confronted this psychopath who was apparently on the Dolphins' leadership council? In a team culture that expects rookies to foot $30,000 bills and extort others for $15,000 trips to Las Vegas, a confrontation might not be the answer.
Furthermore if Martin actually contemplated suicide and people knew about it, Incognito is an absolutely despicable human being.
I'm trying to find possible resolutions that don't involve Martin leaving the team but can't think of many. IMO he was backed in a corner by not only Incognito but a deplorable team culture.
Also it would be awesome if every Half Brain started making fake handles with matching birthdays of parents of potential light rod players. Manziel, Honey Badger, etc. Then when shit hits the fan start making ridiculous claims about everything. One can dream.
Incognito is a terrible person, but in a culture like the NFL, you gotta stand up for yourself. You are kidding yourselves if you think the abuse will stop. Jim Trotter said all six NFL players and execs he spoke to all thought Martin should have handled this face to face or at least tried. He will never hear the end of this for his whole career and I bet guys will go even harder at him in the locker room because of it.
I am glad Incognito is getting what he deserves, but the whole organization is a mess. They let it go way too fucking far and didn't do anything to stop it until it was too late.
Incognito is a terrible person, but in a culture like the NFL, you gotta stand up for yourself. You are kidding yourselves if you think the abuse will stop. Jim Trotter said all six NFL players and execs he spoke to all thought Martin should have handled this face to face or at least tried. He will never hear the end of this for his whole career and I bet guys will go even harder at him in the locker room because of it.
I am glad Incognito is getting what he deserves, but the whole organization is a mess. They let it go way too fucking far and didn't do anything to stop it until it was too late.
There is a reason why this franchise has been irrelevant since Dan Marino retired. I could never picture this happening in the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Colts, Eagles, Seahawks and GIants organizations.
The fact those voice mails happened in April and they are just now finally doing something about it tells you a lot about the organization.
Reminds me when Cam Cleeland had his career ruined by a bunch of thugs for his rookie "hazing" with the Saints who were at the time a terrible franchise as well.
These losers wonder why they are losers. No leadership at all in the organization.
Is part of the Dolphins six player "Leadership Council".
LOL
I heard it's because he said he was on the Student Council in High School. WTF is a Leadership Council?
The NFL REALLY cares about its image. Incognito is fucked. Eugene is one of the most racist places I've ever experienced. Figures he's a Suck.
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If I wanted your unsolicited fucking personal advice, I'd have stayed a doogman. Maybe you didn't see the "Go fuck yourself on my sig line? Does the c stand for cunt?
At first, I thought Martin was just a huge pussy (he still is to an extent)
Once on Dawgman on one of the 9/11 anniversaries (never forget), I wrote that I wished every American soldier in Iraq would die (sorry Mike). And I think you're an asshole.
At first, I thought Martin was just a huge pussy (he still is to an extent)
Once on Dawgman on one of the 9/11 anniversaries (never forget), I wrote that I wished every American soldier in Iraq would die (sorry Mike). And I think you're an asshole.
At first, I thought Martin was just a huge pussy (he still is to an extent)
Once on Dawgman on one of the 9/11 anniversaries (never forget), I wrote that I wished every American soldier in Iraq would die (sorry Mike). And I think you're an asshole.
Abundance. Incognito is a terrible person and Martin is somewhat of a pussy. Bullies like Incognito thrive on weakness.
At first, I thought Martin was just a huge pussy (he still is to an extent)
Once on Dawgman on one of the 9/11 anniversaries (never forget), I wrote that I wished every American soldier in Iraq would die (sorry Mike). And I think you're an asshole.
Abundance. Incognito is a terrible person and Martin is somewhat of a pussy. Bullies like Incognito thrive on weakness.
Jesus dude. He was allegedly suicidal, potentially a drug addict, called a "half-nigger", and extorted. He was clearly dealing with serious issues beyond his control.
The good natured hazing seems fine ( making a guy get a bad haircut, making him carry a helmet, making him wear girls backpack etc.). Obviously Incognito took it 5 notches too far.
At first, I thought Martin was just a huge pussy (he still is to an extent)
Once on Dawgman on one of the 9/11 anniversaries (never forget), I wrote that I wished every American soldier in Iraq would die (sorry Mike). And I think you're an asshole.
Abundance. Incognito is a terrible person and Martin is somewhat of a pussy. Bullies like Incognito thrive on weakness.
Jesus dude. He was allegedly suicidal, potentially a drug addict, called a "half-nigger", and extorted. He was clearly dealing with serious issues beyond his control.
We should feel bad for him because he is a drug addict and possibly suicidal because of his addiction?
This story is fucked but I am somewhat curious to hear the other side of the story. All we have heard so far is the Martin side, yet for some reason a couple other of the black players on the Dolphins aren't ripping Incognito like you would think. I don't think Incognito should play another snap given his history but I also think Martin could have figured this out internally instead of stomping off and crying.
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I'm interested if anyone will touch Martin. He's going to been seen as soft by every team, and the players will have a field day with him. He made the wrong move by walking out and quitting.
Furthermore if Martin actually contemplated suicide and people knew about it, Incognito is an absolutely despicable human being.
I'm trying to find possible resolutions that don't involve Martin leaving the team but can't think of many. IMO he was backed in a corner by not only Incognito but a deplorable team culture.
http://nfl.si.com/2013/11/04/richie-incognito-suspended-miami-dolphins-jonathan-martin/?sct=hp_t2_a4&eref=sihp
I am glad Incognito is getting what he deserves, but the whole organization is a mess. They let it go way too fucking far and didn't do anything to stop it until it was too late.
That's all that needed to be said...............
Just more ammo to use to piss off Quooks.
The fact those voice mails happened in April and they are just now finally doing something about it tells you a lot about the organization.
Reminds me when Cam Cleeland had his career ruined by a bunch of thugs for his rookie "hazing" with the Saints who were at the time a terrible franchise as well.
These losers wonder why they are losers. No leadership at all in the organization.
If you have any questions or concerns at all, feel free to send IrishDawg22 a personal message. He has this place dialed in.
Thanks.
If you have any questions or concerns at all, feel free to send IrishDawg22 a personal message. He has this place dialed in.
Thanks.
If I wanted your unsolicited fucking personal advice, I'd have stayed a doogman. Maybe you didn't see the "Go fuck yourself on my sig line? Does the c stand for cunt?
This story is fucked but I am somewhat curious to hear the other side of the story. All we have heard so far is the Martin side, yet for some reason a couple other of the black players on the Dolphins aren't ripping Incognito like you would think. I don't think Incognito should play another snap given his history but I also think Martin could have figured this out internally instead of stomping off and crying.