A true pity. I want to rant about a 40 yr decision for Jr and what having a brand and legacy in Seattle would mean. About for pops having a son as a local college star would move oceans and mountains for his business. Real long term value stuff. About how Ohio State does not graduate its African-American players, nearly a 60% drop from their white players.
But these battles have already been fought. We lost. Now we rest.
Yup. Totes this. But I'd also be extremely happy with Jalen + Rome + Bryant.
Not to hijack the thread... and disregarding abundance for a moment... Smalls is the real can't-miss prospect in this year's class. Especially if Banks is being targeted at ILB. Can. Not. Lose. This. Dude. Get 'er done!!!!
I guess the takeaway there is DJ Rogers has been recruited for awhile?
Also Matt Lubick is the gift that keeps on giving.
Bullshit. This is on fucking Petersen....period. He's the fucking offensive guru, and the fucking CEO of the program...This is the type of story that gets me pissed off about CP and his bullshit attitude toward kids with and edge. He wants fucking choir boys to play a sport that you should want gang bangers instead.
I guess the takeaway there is DJ Rogers has been recruited for awhile?
Also Matt Lubick is the gift that keeps on giving.
Bullshit. This is on fucking Petersen....period. He's the fucking offensive guru, and the fucking CEO of the program...This is the type of story that gets me pissed off about CP and his bullshit attitude toward kids with and edge. He wants fucking choir boys to play a sport that you should want gang bangers instead.
I guess the takeaway there is DJ Rogers has been recruited for awhile?
Also Matt Lubick is the gift that keeps on giving.
Bullshit. This is on fucking Petersen....period. He's the fucking offensive guru, and the fucking CEO of the program...This is the type of story that gets me pissed off about CP and his bullshit attitude toward kids with and edge. He wants fucking choir boys to play a sport that you should want gang bangers instead.
Maybe Pete is the non-micromanaging CEO? Ever consider that?
I guess the takeaway there is DJ Rogers has been recruited for awhile?
Also Matt Lubick is the gift that keeps on giving.
Bullshit. This is on fucking Petersen....period. He's the fucking offensive guru, and the fucking CEO of the program...This is the type of story that gets me pissed off about CP and his bullshit attitude toward kids with and edge. He wants fucking choir boys to play a sport that you should want gang bangers instead.
I think this was a valid criticism three months ago... but it really looks like there's been a deliberate recalibration by Pete and staff regarding their recruiting approach. They haven't changed their core values, but there have been some notable (and necessary) shifts in strategy and optics, imo.
Add Smalls, Rogers, and Hatchett to Adams, Bruener, and Racanalli and that's a tasty in-state class!! Gee would be icing on the *cock.
It’s pretty wild to have three Ohio State wide receiver commits as the three wide receiver representatives on the Dream Team but Scott left us no choice. He was steady and consistent all week. He made one-handed catches like they were routine. He had one drop all weekend and it was another one-handed catch that somehow we’ve come to take for granted. He had 25 catches (second among all receivers), five touchdowns (tied for second) and he was the safety valve all week for his quarterbacks.
FRISCO, Texas – There’s a viewing deck above the north end zone in the Dallas Cowboys’ practice facility that is the perfect spot to film on-field activities. If you saw the highlights of four-star wide receiver Gee Scott Jr. from The Opening earlier this month, there’s a good chance the footage was taken from that vantage point.
While Scott was making even the most elite defensive backs in the 2020 recruiting class look silly, you’d hear reporters murmuring from behind their camcorders.
1. How on earth is this kid not a five-star prospect?
2. How could it have possibly taken Washington so long to offer such an elite prospect from the Seattle area?
The second question is far more important than the first, and Ohio State, who earned a commitment from Scott on Christmas Day in 2018, is glad Washington dragged its feet. Buckeyes receiver coach Brian Hartline identified Scott — who stars at powerhouse Eastside Catholic in suburban Sammamish — as a top-tier 2020 wide receiver more than a year ago, and Ohio State offered Scott a scholarship during an unofficial visit to Columbus in October. Soon after, a time during which Scott’s recruitment was about to explode, Washington’s coaches visited Eastside Catholic and sat down with every top athlete on the team except for Scott.
Why? Nobody knows for sure, though that decision could wind up haunting Chris Petersen and his staff for the next three or four years. It would have taken a two-minute visit — even if the Huskies’ staff wasn’t sure about offering yet — to alter Scott’s thinking. Instead, Scott went home that day in November, looked his father in the eye and said, “I’m going to Ohio State. They believe in me.”
“That is how the decision was made,” Scott’s father, Gee Scott Sr., told The Athletic. “That’s the real story right there.”
Scott (6 feet 3, 207 pounds) currently is one of the top-15 receivers in the class as well a consensus top-70 prospect nationally. After his performance at The Opening and other camps during the summer, it’s seemingly a foregone conclusion that he’s going to end up a five-star prospect. And that prospect would be a Washington commitment had the Huskies’ staff offered — and that was evident in the commitment video the Scotts put together in case Gee announced for the Huskies. That video ended with Scott wearing purple foam Husky claws on his hands, but it obviously never saw the light of day, given Washington didn’t offer until last month, six months after he committed to the Buckeyes.
In college football, where keeping the most talented prospects home is paramount, that is borderline indefensible. Washington hired a new wide receivers coach, Junior Adams, in January and he spent six months getting to know Scott before the Huskies offered, but it was too late. Some wonder if the Huskies will get back into the picture now that Eastside Catholic four-star running back Sam Adams II has committed to Washington, but that doesn’t seem likely.
The Scotts were hurt and confused by Washington’s actions. Scott Sr. said he feels as if his son has developed a bad reputation in the Seattle area for celebrating too much. But as Ohio State’s coaches are fond of saying, they’d rather pull the reins on a dog rather than have to teach the dog how to hunt. That competitive fire is a desirable trait, and it’s not as if Scott has had any off-field incidents. Scott, by all accounts, is a confident, personable and talented football prospect.
You can say what you want about Washington’s decision-making and that perhaps Scott wasn’t a good fit for the Huskies. Scott Sr. is a self-made radio personality in Seattle who does some work with the Seattle Seahawks, so maybe Petersen and his staff weren’t fond of the family dynamic. It’s all speculation until Petersen is allowed to publicly address his 2020 class in December.
“I think they had the wrong opinion of him,” Scott Sr. said of Washington. “I don’t know where it came from. I think there was a narrative about my son as far as maybe being immature, but I think there is a narrative about the average 14- or 15-year-olds as they mature. It took the wide receiver coach, the new one, Junior Adams, to get hired. He is the first coach on that staff who took the time to get to know my son and what he found out was, ‘Oh, he’s a pretty good kid.’ I think that kind of sparked the offer. I don’t know if that’s the reason it all happened this way, but that’s just (my) opinion.”
As for Washington’s offer to Scott in June?
“I am definitely appreciative of the Washington coaching staff willing to take a chance on me, willing to say, ‘Hey, I think you’d be good for my team,’ ” Scott said. “But that is not going to do anything with my recruiting process. I am a Buckeye and I am going to be a Buckeye for life.”
Ohio State has built a roster by picking its spots nationally and grabbing talent from coast to coast. There was an opening with Scott, and Hartline pounced on it. Hartline found someone he wanted in his receivers room, identified Scott early and closed before Washington could get into the picture. Had this happened in reverse, where a high-end Columbus-area prospect chose Washington because Ohio State didn’t make the effort, the Buckeyes would be in for just as much criticism.
Now Scott is a part of an OSU 2020 recruiting class that could have the best collection of receivers in the history of modern-day recruiting; the committed receivers are five-star prospect Julian Fleming of Catawissa (Pa.) Southern Columbia — the No. 1-rated receiver in the country – and four-star recruits Scott, Mookie Cooper of St. Louis Trinity Catholic and Jaxon Smith-Njigba of Rockwall (Texas) High. All four are national top-100 prospects, and all but Smith-Njigba are in the top 70.
As for not being a five-star prospect, “I guess I am not good enough yet. I have more work to do,” Scott said. “The more work I put in, the more peoples’ eyes I start to open. Maybe (the rating) will change, but right now I have the mentality of a four-star and I just have to work my tail off. And when I am a five-star, I am going to continue to work my tail off. …
“Those people who do the ratings, they are professionals and I have nothing bad to say about them. Maybe they see something in my game that needs improvement. … I get texts all the time. It bothers me because I know what I got. It bothers me because I know what I got, but it’s a beauty at the same time because I know my potential and I know where I could be. It’s just a matter of everybody finding out.”
When everyone finds out, it’s going to happen in Columbus. And you can bet Washington will be watching.
These kids care way too much about their rating. I guess Gee JR is simply answering a question, but he has offers from everyone. Nobody cares what your ranking is when you’re a sophomore in college except true TBS addicts.
It’s pretty wild to have three Ohio State wide receiver commits as the three wide receiver representatives on the Dream Team but Scott left us no choice. He was steady and consistent all week. He made one-handed catches like they were routine. He had one drop all weekend and it was another one-handed catch that somehow we’ve come to take for granted. He had 25 catches (second among all receivers), five touchdowns (tied for second) and he was the safety valve all week for his quarterbacks.
FRISCO, Texas – There’s a viewing deck above the north end zone in the Dallas Cowboys’ practice facility that is the perfect spot to film on-field activities. If you saw the highlights of four-star wide receiver Gee Scott Jr. from The Opening earlier this month, there’s a good chance the footage was taken from that vantage point.
While Scott was making even the most elite defensive backs in the 2020 recruiting class look silly, you’d hear reporters murmuring from behind their camcorders.
1. How on earth is this kid not a five-star prospect?
2. How could it have possibly taken Washington so long to offer such an elite prospect from the Seattle area?
The second question is far more important than the first, and Ohio State, who earned a commitment from Scott on Christmas Day in 2018, is glad Washington dragged its feet. Buckeyes receiver coach Brian Hartline identified Scott — who stars at powerhouse Eastside Catholic in suburban Sammamish — as a top-tier 2020 wide receiver more than a year ago, and Ohio State offered Scott a scholarship during an unofficial visit to Columbus in October. Soon after, a time during which Scott’s recruitment was about to explode, Washington’s coaches visited Eastside Catholic and sat down with every top athlete on the team except for Scott.
Why? Nobody knows for sure, though that decision could wind up haunting Chris Petersen and his staff for the next three or four years. It would have taken a two-minute visit — even if the Huskies’ staff wasn’t sure about offering yet — to alter Scott’s thinking. Instead, Scott went home that day in November, looked his father in the eye and said, “I’m going to Ohio State. They believe in me.”
“That is how the decision was made,” Scott’s father, Gee Scott Sr., told The Athletic. “That’s the real story right there.”
Scott (6 feet 3, 207 pounds) currently is one of the top-15 receivers in the class as well a consensus top-70 prospect nationally. After his performance at The Opening and other camps during the summer, it’s seemingly a foregone conclusion that he’s going to end up a five-star prospect. And that prospect would be a Washington commitment had the Huskies’ staff offered — and that was evident in the commitment video the Scotts put together in case Gee announced for the Huskies. That video ended with Scott wearing purple foam Husky claws on his hands, but it obviously never saw the light of day, given Washington didn’t offer until last month, six months after he committed to the Buckeyes.
In college football, where keeping the most talented prospects home is paramount, that is borderline indefensible. Washington hired a new wide receivers coach, Junior Adams, in January and he spent six months getting to know Scott before the Huskies offered, but it was too late. Some wonder if the Huskies will get back into the picture now that Eastside Catholic four-star running back Sam Adams II has committed to Washington, but that doesn’t seem likely.
The Scotts were hurt and confused by Washington’s actions. Scott Sr. said he feels as if his son has developed a bad reputation in the Seattle area for celebrating too much. But as Ohio State’s coaches are fond of saying, they’d rather pull the reins on a dog rather than have to teach the dog how to hunt. That competitive fire is a desirable trait, and it’s not as if Scott has had any off-field incidents. Scott, by all accounts, is a confident, personable and talented football prospect.
You can say what you want about Washington’s decision-making and that perhaps Scott wasn’t a good fit for the Huskies. Scott Sr. is a self-made radio personality in Seattle who does some work with the Seattle Seahawks, so maybe Petersen and his staff weren’t fond of the family dynamic. It’s all speculation until Petersen is allowed to publicly address his 2020 class in December.
“I think they had the wrong opinion of him,” Scott Sr. said of Washington. “I don’t know where it came from. I think there was a narrative about my son as far as maybe being immature, but I think there is a narrative about the average 14- or 15-year-olds as they mature. It took the wide receiver coach, the new one, Junior Adams, to get hired. He is the first coach on that staff who took the time to get to know my son and what he found out was, ‘Oh, he’s a pretty good kid.’ I think that kind of sparked the offer. I don’t know if that’s the reason it all happened this way, but that’s just (my) opinion.”
As for Washington’s offer to Scott in June?
“I am definitely appreciative of the Washington coaching staff willing to take a chance on me, willing to say, ‘Hey, I think you’d be good for my team,’ ” Scott said. “But that is not going to do anything with my recruiting process. I am a Buckeye and I am going to be a Buckeye for life.”
Ohio State has built a roster by picking its spots nationally and grabbing talent from coast to coast. There was an opening with Scott, and Hartline pounced on it. Hartline found someone he wanted in his receivers room, identified Scott early and closed before Washington could get into the picture. Had this happened in reverse, where a high-end Columbus-area prospect chose Washington because Ohio State didn’t make the effort, the Buckeyes would be in for just as much criticism.
Now Scott is a part of an OSU 2020 recruiting class that could have the best collection of receivers in the history of modern-day recruiting; the committed receivers are five-star prospect Julian Fleming of Catawissa (Pa.) Southern Columbia — the No. 1-rated receiver in the country – and four-star recruits Scott, Mookie Cooper of St. Louis Trinity Catholic and Jaxon Smith-Njigba of Rockwall (Texas) High. All four are national top-100 prospects, and all but Smith-Njigba are in the top 70.
As for not being a five-star prospect, “I guess I am not good enough yet. I have more work to do,” Scott said. “The more work I put in, the more peoples’ eyes I start to open. Maybe (the rating) will change, but right now I have the mentality of a four-star and I just have to work my tail off. And when I am a five-star, I am going to continue to work my tail off. …
“Those people who do the ratings, they are professionals and I have nothing bad to say about them. Maybe they see something in my game that needs improvement. … I get texts all the time. It bothers me because I know what I got. It bothers me because I know what I got, but it’s a beauty at the same time because I know my potential and I know where I could be. It’s just a matter of everybody finding out.”
When everyone finds out, it’s going to happen in Columbus. And you can bet Washington will be watching.
These kids care way too much about their rating. I guess Gee JR is simply answering a question, but he has offers from everyone. Nobody cares what your ranking is when you’re a sophomore in college except true TBS addicts.
did you hear that half the NFL is refusing to play Madden because they think they've been rated wrongly?
professional football players giving a fuck about a video game. Unbelievable.
and for the record, the disrepect is not unreal. for Madden it's fucking computer geeks rating players and for recruiting it's fucking guys like Biggins and Fetters putting numbers on their names. JFC
I made the Gee Jr. and Kasen Williams comparison like 9 months ago and now it's gaining traction. Big-bodied man-child with average speed but elite hands describes both of them coming out of high school. Gee is more skilled as a route runner because of FSP and 7on7. Kasen didn't have that shit when he was in high school. But Kasen had better vertical leaping ability.
I find it amusing the article suggests UW is going to regret not offering Gee Jr sooner when he's at Ohio State. He'd be a very welcomed addition to UW's class, but won't be missed if he's not a part of it either with the way WR recruiting is going for UW right now. Best of luck to him either way.
Just clicked on a few other Ohio State recruiting stories at the bottom of that Athletic Gee story. Holy shit, we think we've been recruiting well? Not only did they sign Lansom and Phillips, they might flip Ricks from LSU (all three West Coast dudes, which is just so infuriating). On top of that, they'll probably sign two 5-star running backs in Bijan, maybe Kendall Milton (probably Georgia), with Emmitt Smith's son as their fall-back.
How the hell you supposed to compete with that talent?
There's nothing about the article that makes any sense at all ...
If he was as all in on Ohio State as he suggests, he'd spend the balance of his time talking up about everything about Ohio State.
Instead, he's spending the balance of his time talking shit about UW and trying to remind (or convince) everybody that he's 100% to Ohio State.
He either is so severely jilted about UW to the point that he's going to go out of his way to talk shit about them ...
OR
Washington is the hot girl that wasn't giving him the time of day, he totally wanted to be with her, and then now that the hot girl is giving him the attention he's trying to act tough as if he's moved on while deep down knowing that when push comes to shove he's going to get with the hot girl because that's everything he wants
Just clicked on a few other Ohio State recruiting stories at the bottom of that Athletic Gee story. Holy shit, we think we've been recruiting well? Not only did they sign Lansom and Phillips, they might flip Ricks from LSU (all three West Coast dudes, which is just so infuriating). On top of that, they'll probably sign two 5-star running backs in Bijan, maybe Kendall Milton (probably Georgia), with Emmitt Smith's son as their fall-back.
How the hell you supposed to compete with that talent?
They're not getting both 5-star RB's. They want Milton more but will end up with Bijan. I wouldn't trade Adams and Sunday for just Bijan.
If we get Hector, James, Covington, and Esteen, I like that DB class better than whatever they end up with.
There's nothing about the article that makes any sense at all ...
If he was as all in on Ohio State as he suggests, he'd spend the balance of his time talking up about everything about Ohio State.
Instead, he's spending the balance of his time talking shit about UW and trying to remind (or convince) everybody that he's 100% to Ohio State.
He either is so severely jilted about UW to the point that he's going to go out of his way to talk shit about them ...
OR
Washington is the hot girl that wasn't giving him the time of day, he totally wanted to be with her, and then now that the hot girl is giving him the attention he's trying to act tough as if he's moved on while deep down knowing that when push comes to shove he's going to get with the hot girl because that's everything he wants
OR for whatever reason the author wanted to pursue the UW angle and asked him specific questions about UW.
I agree there's a lot of smoke and I think he wants to be here, but without seeing video of the questions that were asked there's no way to conclude anything other than this is what the author wanted to write about.
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Gee Sr is no dummy. He's a smart dude.
Never leave any doors closed. If it works then they will go to UW. If it works they will continue to be at Ohio State.
Gee jr is going to Ohio State ... Until he isn't.
Lipo
But these battles have already been fought. We lost. Now we rest.
Sounds pretty good to me!
Not to hijack the thread... and disregarding abundance for a moment... Smalls is the real can't-miss prospect in this year's class. Especially if Banks is being targeted at ILB. Can. Not. Lose. This. Dude. Get 'er done!!!!
Add Smalls, Rogers, and Hatchett to Adams, Bruener, and Racanalli and that's a tasty in-state class!! Gee would be icing on the *cock.
He's a great coach running a good clean program but he's still a work in progress.
professional football players giving a fuck about a video game. Unbelievable.
and for the record, the disrepect is not unreal. for Madden it's fucking computer geeks rating players and for recruiting it's fucking guys like Biggins and Fetters putting numbers on their names. JFC
I find it amusing the article suggests UW is going to regret not offering Gee Jr sooner when he's at Ohio State. He'd be a very welcomed addition to UW's class, but won't be missed if he's not a part of it either with the way WR recruiting is going for UW right now. Best of luck to him either way.
How the hell you supposed to compete with that talent?
If he was as all in on Ohio State as he suggests, he'd spend the balance of his time talking up about everything about Ohio State.
Instead, he's spending the balance of his time talking shit about UW and trying to remind (or convince) everybody that he's 100% to Ohio State.
He either is so severely jilted about UW to the point that he's going to go out of his way to talk shit about them ...
OR
Washington is the hot girl that wasn't giving him the time of day, he totally wanted to be with her, and then now that the hot girl is giving him the attention he's trying to act tough as if he's moved on while deep down knowing that when push comes to shove he's going to get with the hot girl because that's everything he wants
If we get Hector, James, Covington, and Esteen, I like that DB class better than whatever they end up with.
I agree there's a lot of smoke and I think he wants to be here, but without seeing video of the questions that were asked there's no way to conclude anything other than this is what the author wanted to write about.