DDY & Coker
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It's like being in the basement listening to dad and dad have an argument over who's on top tonight. Memories...Swaye said:It's weird seeing Coker and Teq fight. I'm slightly aroused.
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Yes, we have an elite coach. That's why he's not going to do something like fire half his staff this year.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
We have one of the absolute best leaders in CFB, UW can get truly elite with better coaches and recruiters. That is all I’m saying. And not everyone can get those types of coaches because they either don’t want to work with a shit head coach, or they want to get paid more. UW can offer pay and a great HC.bananasnblondes said:If building a college football program from 15 years of shit to a NC was akin to creating a character on dungeons and dragons or drafting afantasy football team, yes, firing half your coaching staff to get slightly better recruiting results while maintaining wverything else would make sense.
Unfortunately, it's not. Starting next year with a brand new OC, QB coach, LB coach, Special Teams coach, DB coach, TE coach, DL coach and 2nd year OL and WR coach (who have thus far not proven themselves as position coaches) could help us "do better" in recruiting.it's more likely a recipe for taking a conference contender and turning them into a 3-6 team.
The simple solution of "just fire everyone and hire guys that are great coaches and great recruiters" is an overly simplistic way of looking at this. Why doesn't every team do that?
Smith should be gone regardless, and I think he will be.
Malloe should be gone if they strike out on Taimani and Togai.
Other than that, you're risking too much in player development and program stability. You end up where UCLA is now.
I just want to support our elite head coach, that has developed an elite culture, that has an elite defensive scheme and DC. That’s it.
I am sorry for that.
Look, I'm in total agreement with you that I would love to have great recruiters and great coaches. I want the best staff possible. I liked that we've weeded guys out over the past 2 years. I hope that continues with Babushka this year. And yes, if we could get rid of our entire staff and replace each one with a guy who is giaranteed to be a great coach and great recruiter, that would be awesome.
It would also be awesome if each time I took a shit, a $100 bill would come out of my ass instead of poop. -
Serious question:
Did we compete for a playoff berth this year?
You don’t make the playoffs every year in which you compete for them. We’re not making the playoffs but it’s because we have two road losses by 1 score to shit teams.
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The problem is that there are very few coaches that are great at both developing talent and recruiting. We have exactly one of those on staff: Jimmy Lake. Swapping Gregory for an Adrian Klemm clone isn't a recipe for success in the near or long term. Pete will always defer to guys who can develop talent, and I'm ok with that after a decade plus of players developing in spite of the coaches, so long as we have a few ace recruiters sprinkled in.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
We have one of the absolute best leaders in CFB, UW can get truly elite with better coaches and recruiters. That is all I’m saying. And not everyone can get those types of coaches because they either don’t want to work with a shit head coach, or they want to get paid more. UW can offer pay and a great HC.bananasnblondes said:If building a college football program from 15 years of shit to a NC was akin to creating a character on dungeons and dragons or drafting afantasy football team, yes, firing half your coaching staff to get slightly better recruiting results while maintaining wverything else would make sense.
Unfortunately, it's not. Starting next year with a brand new OC, QB coach, LB coach, Special Teams coach, DB coach, TE coach, DL coach and 2nd year OL and WR coach (who have thus far not proven themselves as position coaches) could help us "do better" in recruiting.it's more likely a recipe for taking a conference contender and turning them into a 3-6 team.
The simple solution of "just fire everyone and hire guys that are great coaches and great recruiters" is an overly simplistic way of looking at this. Why doesn't every team do that?
Smith should be gone regardless, and I think he will be.
Malloe should be gone if they strike out on Taimani and Togai.
Other than that, you're risking too much in player development and program stability. You end up where UCLA is now.
I just want to support our elite head coach, that has developed an elite culture, that has an elite defensive scheme and DC. That’s it.
I am sorry for that.
Babuskha and Malloe (if he doesn't get 2 of Togiai, Tremblay, and Taimani) should be goners. Assuming Lake leaves, Alexander or Heyward are fine, but nowhere near Lake. JD Williams would be a home run. The 10th coach must to be an elite defensive recruiter, specifically focused on the front 7. Anything below that is unacceptable to me. -
It's even weirder agreeing with Teq (easily the TSIO guy I disagree with the most) and disagreeing with Coker (easily the TSIO guy I agree with the most).Swaye said:It's weird seeing Coker and Teq fight. I'm slightly aroused.
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I give up
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Double shitpoast (thanks @dnc for breaking it up)
Ideal situation for me is as follows:
Hamdan (co-OC/QBs) for Babuskha
- Lubick calls the plays and Hamdan recruits
JD Williams (secondary) for Lake
- Contingent on Lake actually leaving
Choate (DLs) for Malloe
- Not gonna happen, but I also don't think there is an elite DL coach on the west coast, so maybe someone in TX or Tosh (not likely)
Gregory to full time ST coach
Sirmon to LBs
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I'd be all for this except I'd rather have Hamdan calling plays than Lubick.Woof said:Double shitpoast (thanks @dnc for breaking it up)
Ideal situation for me is as follows:
Hamdan (co-OC/QBs) for Babuskha
- Lubick calls the plays and Hamdan recruits
JD Williams (secondary) for Lake
- Contingent on Lake actually leaving
Choate (DLs) for Malloe
- Not gonna happen, but I also don't think there is an elite DL coach on the west coast, so maybe someone in TX or Tosh (not likely)
Gregory to full time ST coach
Sirmon to LBs
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Gerald Alexander over JD Williams easy, or get Gerald to LB coach and Keith Heyward to secondary, or flip them, whatever.dnc said:
I'd be all for this except I'd rather have Hamdan calling plays than Lubick.Woof said:Double shitpoast (thanks @dnc for breaking it up)
Ideal situation for me is as follows:
Hamdan (co-OC/QBs) for Babuskha
- Lubick calls the plays and Hamdan recruits
JD Williams (secondary) for Lake
- Contingent on Lake actually leaving
Choate (DLs) for Malloe
- Not gonna happen, but I also don't think there is an elite DL coach on the west coast, so maybe someone in TX or Tosh (not likely)
Gregory to full time ST coach
Sirmon to LBs
Biggest downside would be too many white guys on staff. -
Just curious, why the love for Heyward? I thought he was above average, but recruiting and development was hit and miss in his last go around.
Williams is a superstar recruiter, but I realize his talent development is a bit of a question mark.
