Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.
DDY & Coker
jecornel
Member Posts: 9,727
Listening to you talk about what Pete needs to do? There is no fucking way Pete is going to come through with what you want.
From what you are saying this staff is grasping at straws for recruits. Total desperation. Instead following guys in other regions of the country spend your time locally and California. How hard is that concept? Recruiting in the South to Seattle? No fucking chance. Recruits look at the women the school has and good luck with competing with the South on that one.
Pete just doesn't seem like a guy who will purge 4 or 5 coaches in one year. Though, I agree it needs to happen. I bet JS stays another year.
If watching film with Smith is, "awkward" then I don't know what it will take to get this guy fired.
It sounds like these old rich white guys need a lesson in social media. From you are describing on their posts it makes me wonder if they actually fucking coach football.
Basically what it sounds like to me, is Pete will forever be a 8-4 / 10-2 coach with a one loss season every 5-7 years. So basically if he coaches here another 10 years he might compete for a playoff spot 1 once or twice before he retires a very rich man.
We know next year won't be good. How are they going to improve? They need big time recruits now in the trenches which they clearly won't get this year from the sounds of it. Malloe is a massive liability, he needs to be fired before signing day.
How do you get the message to Pete that he can a couple try hards but needs talent to win? Pete comes off pretty stubborn when it comes to his "process."
Basically we suck, and I hate our staff. Thanks guys!!!
From what you are saying this staff is grasping at straws for recruits. Total desperation. Instead following guys in other regions of the country spend your time locally and California. How hard is that concept? Recruiting in the South to Seattle? No fucking chance. Recruits look at the women the school has and good luck with competing with the South on that one.
Pete just doesn't seem like a guy who will purge 4 or 5 coaches in one year. Though, I agree it needs to happen. I bet JS stays another year.
If watching film with Smith is, "awkward" then I don't know what it will take to get this guy fired.
It sounds like these old rich white guys need a lesson in social media. From you are describing on their posts it makes me wonder if they actually fucking coach football.
Basically what it sounds like to me, is Pete will forever be a 8-4 / 10-2 coach with a one loss season every 5-7 years. So basically if he coaches here another 10 years he might compete for a playoff spot 1 once or twice before he retires a very rich man.
We know next year won't be good. How are they going to improve? They need big time recruits now in the trenches which they clearly won't get this year from the sounds of it. Malloe is a massive liability, he needs to be fired before signing day.
How do you get the message to Pete that he can a couple try hards but needs talent to win? Pete comes off pretty stubborn when it comes to his "process."
Basically we suck, and I hate our staff. Thanks guys!!!
Comments
Yeah right.
Smith needs to go. Malloe needs to go. I assume this means they're after Gregory, Bonerpoppa and...not sure who else? Obviously not Lake, K, Huff or Lubick. Are they out on PaoPaoPao?
If they fire Smith and Malloe that's enough for me and I'd be thrilled with that. I disagree with the newfound Gregory hate. I'm neutral on Bonerpopper. Wouldn't be tore up if he was fired but he seems to be pretty damn good at coaching them up.
I'm with you though...I'd be happy with just Malloe and Babby going, for now, and start seriously evaluating the quality of PaoPaoPao and maybe Gregory (Gregory has recruited pretty decent until this year though I thought). Huff needs to be monitored closely as well...this year he did great (assuming Curne stays), but he needs to be evaluated over some time horizon...and the OL haul next year will tell us all a lot about him.
Increasing the focus in recruiting California is great ... but if that was the obvious easy solution that worked don’t you think that that would be done?
Recruiting Texas will be critical for us going forward to get 2-3 guys per year ...
Winning national championships are hard ... it’s the goal and I have no doubt that Pete will win at least one. LIPO
Pete had a mixture of Sark recruits he probably would have never gotten to come to Washington and was able to sneak into the playoffs last year. Like DDY said, Pete is the one who needs to get out of his comfort zone and change his philosophy. Don James did it in 1988 so I guess Pete could?
If this staff doesn't kill it instate between 2019-2021 then he isn't sniffing another playoff. If Pete continues to recruit the Haener's & the Harris' of the world then the program is fucked. We all know there is no way Yankoff and Sirmon are both here all four years. One will win the job and the other will bail. So the one who sticks better pan out and you better have another QB on deck to push the starter. Like the TSIO guys are saying, Jake has not had to look over his shoulder.
The point I was making about recruiting in the South, is you better have strong fucking inroads to spend valuable time there.
Ya, next year the secondary should be solid, but if you are sieve in the trenches then it makes everyone's job a lot harder. If Gaines leaves the depth will be beyond razor thin. Who do you have behind Jaylen & Levi? McCoy & Pulu?
There are certain things you need to take with a grain of salt with Pete ... not having someone behind Browning is a miss but that has been remedied going forward ... the kicker thing pisses me off but it’s not that Vizcaino doesn’t have the leg ...
This has been a season of growing pains ... shit happens
There is no signs at this point that the program is at risk of falling back from contending for conference/division titles ... it can get better ... but you start fucking with things too much and you risk blowing shit up
Yes, our recruiting potential is higher than our recruiting reality.
No, we didn’t go to the playoff on the backs of Sark recruits in year 3.
No, our talent levels are not dropping. Every class has been a little bit better.
No, we aren’t going to be perennially 8-4 to 10-2. Coker and DDY are talking about what is needed to get us to the elite level not the top of our shit conference.
I just don’t see Gregory doing anywhere near enough on the recruiting front to elevate us, that’s all.
And concerning Sirmon, I have no desire for him to be our DC ever. But I’d love to have him on staff recruiting and coaching LB’s or DL depending on what position we need to fill.
I just want coaches that are good at both coaching and recruiting. We just don’t have guys connecting on the recruiting front, that’s my biggest issue currently.
As we are currently recruiting we can absolutely win the north, and the conference (as long as USC isn’t in it or doesn’t give a fuck, or does their shit they sometimes do).
I just have a desire to be the baddest team on the West Coast. I want us to skull fuck everyone into submission every fucking game.
No arguments on Babushka and Malloe for reasons well documented.
I have no compelling reason for/against Paopao ... he’s roughly done what he should do and falls in Bonerpopper territory to me (Boner better tho) ...
Gregory is a good coach both for LBs and Special Teams ... don’t make the mistake of devaluing good coaching. Could we use a 10th coach like Sirmon that has a LB background that is a recruiting upgrade? Sure.
I can look at Lubick and see solid recruiting ... can I see solid coaching yet? The WRs may be the most disappointing positional group on the team.
You also have to be looking at what messages you are sending to your staff as well in any changes ... if you aspire to have stability you also have to promote it ... it’s a 2 way street
Firing 4+ coaches is crazy to me ... it’s not broken to that degree ... calling for that kind of turnover is easy when you don’t have to deal with the reprocussions
Turn things upside down = no