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  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    The point is that if the law isn't going to deter anyone who is planning on killing people from obtaining weapons, then we are only preventing good, law-abiding citizens from obtaining them.

    that's kind of a dumb poont. also contradicted by evidence freely available in every other country on the planet
    But people do still obtain weapons and kill other people with them. They might replace guns with knives, but people still kill other people.
    Sure. The same day as Sandy Hook some lunatic attacked a primary school in China with a kniife. Stabbed 23 people, mostly elementary school kids. Zero fatalities.

    Compare/contrast.

    And I could point out shootings where people were shot and didn't die, and stabbings where people were stabbed and did die.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    The point is that if the law isn't going to deter anyone who is planning on killing people from obtaining weapons, then we are only preventing good, law-abiding citizens from obtaining them.

    that's kind of a dumb poont. also contradicted by evidence freely available in every other country on the planet
    But people do still obtain weapons and kill other people with them. They might replace guns with knives, but people still kill other people.
    Sure. The same day as Sandy Hook some lunatic attacked a primary school in China with a kniife. Stabbed 23 people, mostly elementary school kids. Zero fatalities.

    Compare/contrast.

    And I could point out shootings where people were shot and didn't die, and stabbings where people were stabbed and did die.
    You might be being obtuse if you can't recognize that a gun is many, many times more deadly than a knife.

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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    The point is that if the law isn't going to deter anyone who is planning on killing people from obtaining weapons, then we are only preventing good, law-abiding citizens from obtaining them.

    that's kind of a dumb poont. also contradicted by evidence freely available in every other country on the planet
    But people do still obtain weapons and kill other people with them. They might replace guns with knives, but people still kill other people.
    Sure. The same day as Sandy Hook some lunatic attacked a primary school in China with a kniife. Stabbed 23 people, mostly elementary school kids. Zero fatalities.

    Compare/contrast.

    And I could point out shootings where people were shot and didn't die, and stabbings where people were stabbed and did die.
    You might be being obtuse if you can't recognize that a gun is many, many times more deadly than a knife.

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  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    edited November 2017
    AZDuck said:

    You might be being obtuse if you can't recognize that a gun is many, many times more deadly than a knife.


    Guns and knives are different. They kill people in different ways. The objects themselves are shaped and weigh differently. One is much louder. One is less expensive. And remember, a knife is just one weapon a person could replace a gun with.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    The point is that if the law isn't going to deter anyone who is planning on killing people from obtaining weapons, then we are only preventing good, law-abiding citizens from obtaining them.

    that's kind of a dumb poont. also contradicted by evidence freely available in every other country on the planet
    But people do still obtain weapons and kill other people with them. They might replace guns with knives, but people still kill other people.
    Sure. The same day as Sandy Hook some lunatic attacked a primary school in China with a kniife. Stabbed 23 people, mostly elementary school kids. Zero fatalities.

    Compare/contrast.

    And I could point out shootings where people were shot and didn't die, and stabbings where people were stabbed and did die.
    Go ahead.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    AZDuck said:

    You might be being obtuse if you can't recognize that a gun is many, many times more deadly than a knife.


    Guns and knives are different. They kill people in different ways. The objects themselves are shaped and weigh differently. One is much louder. One is less expensive. And remember, a knife is just one weapon a person could replace a gun with.
    Nobody with a knife has ever killed 58 people from a hotel room 100 yards away.

    You've heard about assholes that bring knives to a gun fight, right?
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    dflea said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    The point is that if the law isn't going to deter anyone who is planning on killing people from obtaining weapons, then we are only preventing good, law-abiding citizens from obtaining them.

    that's kind of a dumb poont. also contradicted by evidence freely available in every other country on the planet
    But people do still obtain weapons and kill other people with them. They might replace guns with knives, but people still kill other people.
    Sure. The same day as Sandy Hook some lunatic attacked a primary school in China with a kniife. Stabbed 23 people, mostly elementary school kids. Zero fatalities.

    Compare/contrast.

    And I could point out shootings where people were shot and didn't die, and stabbings where people were stabbed and did die.
    Go ahead.
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gunshot+survivors

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=stabbing+murders
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:

    The point is that if the law isn't going to deter anyone who is planning on killing people from obtaining weapons, then we are only preventing good, law-abiding citizens from obtaining them.

    that's kind of a dumb poont. also contradicted by evidence freely available in every other country on the planet
    But people do still obtain weapons and kill other people with them. They might replace guns with knives, but people still kill other people.
    Sure. The same day as Sandy Hook some lunatic attacked a primary school in China with a kniife. Stabbed 23 people, mostly elementary school kids. Zero fatalities.

    Compare/contrast.

    And I could point out shootings where people were shot and didn't die, and stabbings where people were stabbed and did die.
    Go ahead.
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gunshot+survivors

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=stabbing+murders
    Awesome. Bring your knife to a gun fight, and tell us how it works out.
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    Somehow this turned into a discussion about whether or not knives are a good self-defense weapon against guns...?