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  • PineapplePiratePineapplePirate Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,623 Swaye's Wigwam
    Chip Kelly is trying to catch Charlie Weiss in amount of fat per square inch of body.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,267
    I fucking hate the idea of Chip coaching at Florida. It would be Urban part Deux. The man can coach, and with those recruits, forget it. Odds are high he'd win a title there. Unless he didn't. Either way ....
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,071 Swaye's Wigwam

    I fucking hate the idea of Chip coaching at Florida. It would be Urban part Deux. The man can coach, and with those recruits, forget it. Odds are high he'd win a title there. Unless he didn't. Either way ....

    Agree with all except the bolded part.
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    Chip Kelly is trying to catch Charlie Weiss in amount of fat per square inch of body.

    He could also be getting three separate pay checks.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,366
    edited November 2017
    Mosster47 said:

    Chip Kelly is trying to catch Charlie Weiss in amount of fat per square inch of body.

    He could also be getting three separate pay checks.
    Three different checks but his total pay ( Philly portion for 2018 offset by the SF deal through 2019 )remains the same. Anything he earns offsets what Phi/SF owes him.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited November 2017
    Chip will make FLA respectable. But not a Natty threat. His system is common place now. And Chip only ever had to worry about USC and Stanford during his entire tenure at Oregon. Oh Boise fucking State and Arizona for some reason. The rest of the PAC 12 was horrible. Say what you want about the PAC 12 the last 3 years. But there are twice the amount of teams that could have stepped up and beat his squads on any given Saturday than back then. And even on a down SEC YEAR, He’ll play 4 or 5 teams that can beat FLA.
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited November 2017
    The PAC 12 sucks more than ever this year. IR, YK.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,577 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Chip will make FLA respectable. But not a Natty threat. His system is common place now. And Chip only ever had to worry about USC and Stanford during his entire tenure at Oregon. Oh Boise fucking State and Arizona for some reason. The rest of the PAC 12 was horrible. Say what you want about the PAC 12 the last 3 years. But there are twice the amount of teams that could have stepped up and beat his squads on any given Saturday than back then. And even on a down SEC YEAR, He’ll play 4 or 5 teams that can beat FLA.

    You're underestimating just how innovative he was/is
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Some of the things that really made Chip great have been caught up with or the rules have been changed to stop it. No head coach struggles with the concept of the other team going for it on 4th down anymore. The substitution rule got rid of the blistering fast pace.

    Chip's offense doesn't adapt or change. It's basically just the veer out of shotgun. You have to defend it correctly on every play or you're getting gashed. That won't change. He will still struggle in early season and bowl games as teams will have extra time to prepare.

    However Paul Johnson would do at Florida is about the same success level Chip will have. To me that would mean guaranteed victory over the shit birds and a split with the good teams. That's 10 wins a year, which is really good.
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    salemcoog said:

    Chip will make FLA respectable. But not a Natty threat. His system is common place now. And Chip only ever had to worry about USC and Stanford during his entire tenure at Oregon. Oh Boise fucking State and Arizona for some reason. The rest of the PAC 12 was horrible. Say what you want about the PAC 12 the last 3 years. But there are twice the amount of teams that could have stepped up and beat his squads on any given Saturday than back then. And even on a down SEC YEAR, He’ll play 4 or 5 teams that can beat FLA.

    Like who? Who in this Pac-12 would beat Chip outside of Shaw and Rich Rod? Shaw is a great coach that plays sound football with giant humans and Arizona's D sees a similar offense everyday so it's easier to defend and they can score because of it.

    UW with no offense? Nope.
    Cal, ever? Nope.
    The 1 win Beavs? Nope.
    Colorado, ever? Nope.
    Utah, ever? Nope.
    Wazzu? Maybe.
    UCLA? Hahahaha!
    ASU? Not even at their best.
    USC? Always a maybe.

    Looks to be same as it ever was.

    The SEC is Bama, Georgia, LSU, and Florida. If you're at one of those you have the talent to beat the other ones.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,239 Standard Supporter
    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Chip will make FLA respectable. But not a Natty threat. His system is common place now. And Chip only ever had to worry about USC and Stanford during his entire tenure at Oregon. Oh Boise fucking State and Arizona for some reason. The rest of the PAC 12 was horrible. Say what you want about the PAC 12 the last 3 years. But there are twice the amount of teams that could have stepped up and beat his squads on any given Saturday than back then. And even on a down SEC YEAR, He’ll play 4 or 5 teams that can beat FLA.

    Like who? Who in this Pac-12 would beat Chip outside of Shaw and Rich Rod? Shaw is a great coach that plays sound football with giant humans and Arizona's D sees a similar offense everyday so it's easier to defend and they can score because of it.

    UW with no offense? Nope.
    Cal, ever? Nope.
    The 1 win Beavs? Nope.
    Colorado, ever? Nope.
    Utah, ever? Nope.
    Wazzu? Maybe.
    UCLA? Hahahaha!
    ASU? Not even at their best.
    USC? Always a maybe.

    Looks to be same as it ever was.

    The SEC is Bama, Georgia, LSU, and Florida. If you're at one of those you have the talent to beat the other ones.
    Auburn is in that discussion, too. Consistently better than every Pac12 program listed except USC.
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Chip will make FLA respectable. But not a Natty threat. His system is common place now. And Chip only ever had to worry about USC and Stanford during his entire tenure at Oregon. Oh Boise fucking State and Arizona for some reason. The rest of the PAC 12 was horrible. Say what you want about the PAC 12 the last 3 years. But there are twice the amount of teams that could have stepped up and beat his squads on any given Saturday than back then. And even on a down SEC YEAR, He’ll play 4 or 5 teams that can beat FLA.

    Like who? Who in this Pac-12 would beat Chip outside of Shaw and Rich Rod? Shaw is a great coach that plays sound football with giant humans and Arizona's D sees a similar offense everyday so it's easier to defend and they can score because of it.

    UW with no offense? Nope.
    Cal, ever? Nope.
    The 1 win Beavs? Nope.
    Colorado, ever? Nope.
    Utah, ever? Nope.
    Wazzu? Maybe.
    UCLA? Hahahaha!
    ASU? Not even at their best.
    USC? Always a maybe.

    Looks to be same as it ever was.

    The SEC is Bama, Georgia, LSU, and Florida. If you're at one of those you have the talent to beat the other ones.
    Auburn is in that discussion, too. Consistently better than every Pac12 program listed except USC.
    Auburn is second tier most of the time. If the big four are doing their job it's a miracle when they lose to Auburn, unless they rented a QB for $185k that year.

    The Pac-12 just doesn't have the access to black athletes like the SEC does so they will never be as competitive top to bottom.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,239 Standard Supporter
    Mosster47 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    salemcoog said:

    Chip will make FLA respectable. But not a Natty threat. His system is common place now. And Chip only ever had to worry about USC and Stanford during his entire tenure at Oregon. Oh Boise fucking State and Arizona for some reason. The rest of the PAC 12 was horrible. Say what you want about the PAC 12 the last 3 years. But there are twice the amount of teams that could have stepped up and beat his squads on any given Saturday than back then. And even on a down SEC YEAR, He’ll play 4 or 5 teams that can beat FLA.

    Like who? Who in this Pac-12 would beat Chip outside of Shaw and Rich Rod? Shaw is a great coach that plays sound football with giant humans and Arizona's D sees a similar offense everyday so it's easier to defend and they can score because of it.

    UW with no offense? Nope.
    Cal, ever? Nope.
    The 1 win Beavs? Nope.
    Colorado, ever? Nope.
    Utah, ever? Nope.
    Wazzu? Maybe.
    UCLA? Hahahaha!
    ASU? Not even at their best.
    USC? Always a maybe.

    Looks to be same as it ever was.

    The SEC is Bama, Georgia, LSU, and Florida. If you're at one of those you have the talent to beat the other ones.
    Auburn is in that discussion, too. Consistently better than every Pac12 program listed except USC.
    Auburn is second tier most of the time. If the big four are doing their job it's a miracle when they lose to Auburn, unless they rented a QB for $185k that year.

    The Pac-12 just doesn't have the access to black athletes like the SEC does so they will never be as competitive top to bottom.
    The more you know. Dead even.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_South%27s_Oldest_Rivalry
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Chip’s gonna find out just how hard it is to find athletes willing to travel all the way to Florida just to play football.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited November 2017

    salemcoog said:

    Chip will make FLA respectable. But not a Natty threat. His system is common place now. And Chip only ever had to worry about USC and Stanford during his entire tenure at Oregon. Oh Boise fucking State and Arizona for some reason. The rest of the PAC 12 was horrible. Say what you want about the PAC 12 the last 3 years. But there are twice the amount of teams that could have stepped up and beat his squads on any given Saturday than back then. And even on a down SEC YEAR, He’ll play 4 or 5 teams that can beat FLA.

    You're underestimating just how innovative he was/is
    WAS is the key word.

    I know this room is in awe of Him due to the wreckage inflicted but His system is known and can be contained. It's really only the Doogs and the Quooks who believe this.
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