Does anyone have a clue what the starting 5 is gonna be for Basketball

dhdawg

is goss gonna start right away, I think we're looking at Goss Andrews Wilcox Kemp Blackwell.
Man we're gonna suck. BTW Romar had one of his famous 2nd place finishes in the Zylan Cheatham battle

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Wilcox is a 5th year senior and yet UW is picked to take 8th.

dhdawg

there's potential, but if we're gonna be anywhere close to the tourney Kemp, and Andrews are gonna have to make huge strides and goss and blackwell are gonna have to be legit starters right away

RoadDawg55

Your guess looks pretty good. Only real battle is probably Kemp-Jarreau-Simmons at the 4. Maybe Johnson or Anderson could take Andrews or NWG's spot. I'm not really sure how good those guys are, although Johnson is getting good reports.

Meek

Basketball? Please go die in a fire

dhdawg

RoadDawg55 said:

Your guess looks pretty good. Only real battle is probably Kemp-Jarreau-Simmons at the 4. Maybe Johnson or Anderson could take Andrews or NWG's spot. I'm not really sure how good those guys are, although Johnson is getting good reports.

johnson is the kind of player romar has had success with in the past so lets hope

dhdawg

Meek said:

Basketball? Please go die in a fire

the football season is over, might as well focus on basketball until it's over if it isn't already

RoadDawg55

dhdawg said:

there's potential, but if we're gonna be anywhere close to the tourney Kemp, and Andrews are gonna have to make huge strides and goss and blackwell are gonna have to be legit starters right away

I'm not counting on it, but if all goes right, this team could somehow make the NCAA tourney. We will see. It depends on how good NWG and Blackwell really are. Doogs expecting a guy who averaged 12 in the WCC to be a star are really pressing, but reports are Blackwell is a good low post scorer.

I think NWG will be good, but expecting him to be a huge difference maker might be a bit much. Andrews was terrible last year. He may be good, he may not. I like his attitude, but he was ineffective last year.

There are a lot of questions with this team which makes me skeptical, but it does seem to be a more athletic team that the past few.

Meek

Oh right. The husky basketball team will make you feel better. Haha

dhdawg

RoadDawg55 said:

dhdawg said:

there's potential, but if we're gonna be anywhere close to the tourney Kemp, and Andrews are gonna have to make huge strides and goss and blackwell are gonna have to be legit starters right away

I'm not counting on it, but if all goes right, this team could somehow make the NCAA tourney. We will see. It depends on how good NWG and Blackwell really are. Doogs expecting a guy who averaged 12 in the WCC to be a star are really pressing, but reports are Blackwell is a good low post scorer.

I think NWG will be good, but expecting him to be a huge difference maker might be a bit much. Andrews was terrible last year. He may be good, he may not. I like his attitude, but he was ineffective last year.

There are a lot of questions with this team which makes me skeptical, but it does seem to be a more athletic team that the past few.

he isn't going to be a superstar, just not his game. His ceiling IMO is michael carter-williams which after watching abdul gaddy this year feels like the 2nd coming of brandon roy

CuntWaffle

The biggest 2nd place finish imo was Moser. They could have been a pretty good team with him.

TheKobeStopper

NBA > college

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Gladstone

As others have said, the 4 is the only real offseason position battle. I had hopes for Simmons many years ago but he has disappointed me. Kemp could be a stud if he had any work ethic at all. We are going to need NWG and Blackwell to be as advertised. TBH I have no idea how the conference is going to play out, Arizona will be the odds on favorite due to their talent but after that...UCLA looks awful. ASU is a unknown. Ditto Oregon. The year we won the Alaska Tourney was the only year Romar didn't completely flop in the preseason. I hate hate hate the change in tempo/Romar's new offense. That old style defined Husky bball for me and made all the games fun as hell to watch, it also masked some of Romar's glaring coaching flaws. That's all gone now. Last year was our worst statistically since Romar's first...running a high-post with fucking Aziz and Kemp?

bananasnblondes

Gladstone said:

As others have said, the 4 is the only real offseason position battle. I had hopes for Simmons many years ago but he has disappointed me. Kemp could be a stud if he had any work ethic at all. We are going to need NWG and Blackwell to be as advertised. TBH I have no idea how the conference is going to play out, Arizona will be the odds on favorite due to their talent but after that...UCLA looks awful. ASU is a unknown. Ditto Oregon. The year we won the Alaska Tourney was the only year Romar didn't completely flop in the preseason. I hate hate hate the change in tempo/Romar's new offense. That old style defined Husky bball for me and made all the games fun as hell to watch, it also masked some of Romar's glaring coaching flaws. That's all gone now. Last year was our worst statistically since Romar's first...running a high-post with fucking Aziz and Kemp?

Agree 100% on your last point. Romar essentially threw away everything he built by changing to that stupid high post, pass the ball around the perimeter thing. For a few years UW was one of the most exciting team in the west because we had athletes who ran nonstop and we put up 100 points a game. Then Romar said, "you know what would really be fun. Changing from the most exciting type of basketball that kids love to the most boring". If Mark Helfrich decided to run an I formation offense next year with a huddle between every play that would be the equivalent of what Romar did to husky basketball. Unfortunately, the recruits and fans took notice quickly.

dnc

If it's me I'm not starting Goss and Andrews together for the same reason he didn't start Gaddy and Andrews together last year - you have no other point guards on the bench.

I'd start Goss (I don't think he's going to be a superstar but he'll be better than Andrews)
Wilcox
Johnson
Kemp
Blackwell

With Andrews, Anderson, Simmons and Jarreau all getting run.

Of course, you have the same problem at center that you do at point, so maybe Simmons or Jarreau starts over Kemp.

Who starts isn't as important as who gets the biggest minutes. I think baring injuries minutes will go Wilcox, Blackwell, Goss, Kemp, Andrews. So dhdawg's starters will get the most run, but I don't think they'll all start most of the games.

Swaye

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Swaye said:

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Totally disagree.

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greenblood

It's March already? Damn

Fire_Marshall_Bill

Meek said:

Basketball? Please go die in a fire

Well, since you asked nicely, okay

chrisvashon

1. CJ Wilcox - He is the best player on the court, enough said on that. He has four years under his belt and he will do everything possible to win the game.

2. Frontcourt - We average a weight of 332 lbs across the line, they are ready to dominate the paint. Jurreau, Kemp, Hawes, Blackwell, Brockman etc. These boys have the attitude and are ready to rumble.

3. Otzelberger - New Defensive Scheme and a new attitude. Every player has spoke out about the difference between Otz 2012 and Otz 2013, we will see a much improved defense on 9/3.

4. Speed, Speed, Speed - This is the fastest our team has been in a long time. NWG, Terrence Ross, Hikeem Stewart, etc. The newbies will be inexperienced but will bring something that we haven't had in past seasons, speed.

5. Time of Possession - I think we can dominate the time of possession stat. The more we can shorten the game and keep our subs off of the court, the better chance we have to win the game.

MisterEm

UW bball is soft, sloppy and underachieves.

Holding serve with the football program it appears.

dnc

MisterEm said:

UW bball is soft, sloppy and underachieves.

Holding serve with the football program it appears.

We're going on like the 10th straight year of the hoops team being better than the football team. Holding serve my ass. Sark has a long way to go to catch Romar's underachievements.

CuntWaffle

dnc said:

MisterEm said:

UW bball is soft, sloppy and underachieves.

Holding serve with the football program it appears.

We're going on like the 10th straight year of the hoops team being better than the football team. Holding serve my ass. Sark has a long way to go to catch Romar's underachievements.

Pretty much this, Romar has underachieved no doubt with some of the talent he has had over the years but nowhere near as close as Sark. Romar actually has a few Pac-10/12 division and tournament titles (comment however you want on how down Pac hoops were, football was the same for the most part).

Sark actually had a program to work with with some great tradition. UW basketball has always pretty much been a joke.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

MisterEm said:

UW bball is soft, sloppy and underachieves.

Holding serve with the football program it appears.

Crew, softball, volleyball, soccer, and intramural sports are all that matter now.

jecornel

I hate this board in November

[Deleted User]

I'm not a Romar fan but it does bug me when Doogs are so free to want him fired but will defend Sark.

I'm like at least Romar has won three conference tournament championships and two regular seasons with a lot of 2nd and 3rd place finishes as well. When has Sark ever finished in the top 3? 2010? So he peaked in year fucking two?

Romar, I actually don't think UW can do much better. We aren't a basketball school, our arena isn't big time at all and the fans aren't a basketball school mentality which is fine.

I don't think Romar is a god either but when Romar was hired if someone told me we'd accomplish the things that UW did under his time I would sign up for that again.

When Sark was hired if someone told me in year 5 he'd be 21-20 in conference would I sign up for that? I would tell them to fuck off and die in a fire.

RoadDawg55

I get frustrated watching Romar ball, but he has accomplished a lot at UW. Other than Miller at Arizona there is no program that is substantially better than us, although I do fear we are slipping. Before last year, he had won four conference titles in a row either in the regular season or the conference tournament.

He is a very, very flawed coach, but he does have some good results. I would liken him to a football coach that is consistently a bowl team with some 10+ win season sprinkled in, that never won a big bowl game. History shows, that is pretty good for UW basketball.

CuntWaffle

RoadDawg55 said:

I get frustrated watching Romar ball, but he has accomplished a lot at UW. Other than Miller at Arizona there is no program that is substantially better than us, although I do fear we are slipping. Before last year, he had won four conference titles in a row either in the regular season or the conference tournament.

He is a very, very flawed coach, but he does have some good results. I would liken him to a football coach that is consistently a bowl team with some 10+ win season sprinkled in, that never won a big bowl game. History shows, that is pretty good for UW basketball.

I have no idea how Romar's team this year can be anywhere near as bad as last years. Gaddy and Suggs were awful. They always seemed to shiny against teams we should boatrace but anyone competent they sucked. His 2008-09 recruiting classes bit him in the ass. Besides IT and Wilcox you had

Gaddy (Has to be the worst #2 PG in the nation recruit ever)

Breshers (Had to quit early but he 1 season he played sucked)

Trent (Awful, a shame the rumor is we pulled Derrick Williams schollie offer (who we were the leader for after he commited)

Garcia (would have helped but didn't qualify)

Suggs (shouldn't have even been a 3 star recruit let alone 4)

Turner (Was actually decent his Soph year during the Pac-12 tourney and big dance but transferred)


This recent recruiting class is actually pretty decent and although we missed on Cheatham I think this one could be solid too, glad Romar finally learned that he isn't going to get guys with interest from Kentucky, Duke, NC, and even Arizona now. Although it is shitty that we are now getting 2nd to schools like San Diego State.

Romar only has so much to work with though, pool boy cares way less about basketball than football so that is saying something.

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RoadDawg55 said:

I get frustrated watching Romar ball, but he has accomplished a lot at UW. Other than Miller at Arizona there is no program that is substantially better than us, although I do fear we are slipping. Before last year, he had won four conference titles in a row either in the regular season or the conference tournament.

He is a very, very flawed coach, but he does have some good results. I would liken him to a football coach that is consistently a bowl team with some 10+ win season sprinkled in, that never won a big bowl game. History shows, that is pretty good for UW basketball.

Why I said he's like a Mike Rile or a Jeff Tedford. Although he's starting to slip like Tedford did and it appears his best years are behind him.

Also like Tedford, if you fire him you might see things could actually get even worse.

CuntWaffle

He_Needs_More_Time said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I get frustrated watching Romar ball, but he has accomplished a lot at UW. Other than Miller at Arizona there is no program that is substantially better than us, although I do fear we are slipping. Before last year, he had won four conference titles in a row either in the regular season or the conference tournament.

He is a very, very flawed coach, but he does have some good results. I would liken him to a football coach that is consistently a bowl team with some 10+ win season sprinkled in, that never won a big bowl game. History shows, that is pretty good for UW basketball.

Why I said he's like a Mike Rile or a Jeff Tedford. Although he's starting to slip like Tedford did and it appears his best years are behind him.

Also like Tedford, if you fire him you might see things could actually get even worse.

Romar's biggest mistake was thinking Gaddy would eventually turn it around. I think this year will tell us a lot about where Romar is because I think Gaddy, Suggs, and Aziz were just too big of liablities at times. Aziz did some good thigns on defense, he still was always in foul trouble and looked lost out there (no need to bring up his fucking dreckfest for offense).

Plust last year Romar was all about this new "high post" offense that sucked, they are trying to find a middle ground this year so we will see.

I think CJ Wilcox will be a POY favorite in the Pac-12 if the rumors are true he is healthy for the first time since last November. Perris Blackwell will be the X Factor, he has been likened to Brockman (not great athleticism but a big body who is a workhorse in the paint). He is much more fit for a high post offense than Aziz.

NWG and Darin Johnson I think could develop into Romar's best backcourt duo in awhile.