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Nothing of the sort. Illegal drugs are still widely available as laws don't always work do they? In this instance it was a failure of reporting that allowed this shit stain to buy a gun. if the Federal Government does not bother to put felons, domestic violence offenders, ( federal disqualifications from owning guns) in the criminal database, why should tens of thousands of Americans be asked to submit to background checks? This guy had issues and everyone that knew him was aware of his behavior.2001400ex said:
Then why do you agree with the war on drugs? If everyone can just buy them anyway?Sledog said:
Yes I did. Can you buy heroin? Still illegal.2001400ex said:
You didn't answer the question.Sledog said:
Prohibited people are prohibited from purchase or possession. You should know this. Blame the US military. He passed the background check. So as always your Soros talking points are bullshit.2001400ex said:
You are clearly confusing the ability to purchase versus the ability to possess. There are many legal ways for people to buy guns who are not allowed to possess guns. Why do you think it violates the second amendment to require background checks on all purchases?Sledog said:
Imagine if someone present had a gun. You can't stop these types of people from obtaining weapons. You can shoot them dead.2001400ex said:
Are you talking to yourself?Sledog said:
I'm right but there is nothing unusual about that.Sledog said:
Dishonorable discharged from the military. Bet money he had issues mentally and socially and probably on psych drugs. Most of these mass shooters are.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He killed 26 people at a church. What motive do you want?Sledog said:
That would depend on his motives which we don't know at this point. Did you call Ted Bundy a terrorist?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Terrorists.Sledog said:Evil nut bags exist. Fortunately some local showed up and shot at the pussy gunman who dropped his gun and ran.
The word is terrorists.
Hope this helps.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/06/texas-church-shooting-who-is-gunman-devin-patrick-kelley.html
And he was able to legally purchase the weapon. Even tho US law says he can't. Imagine if we were to close gun show, internet, and private sale loopholes.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/06/air-force-didnt-report-texas-shooters-domestic-violence-conviction-to-federal-database-allowing-him-to-buy-guns.html
A good guy believed an AR 15, was the best thing to defend his family and his community, who are you to tell him he is wrong, and that he shouldn't own this type of firearm with this type of magazine? He showed up with his AR15 and shot the crazy or more people may have died. This is how life functions. There is a reason rich people hire armed security but they don't like the commoners to have the means to resist. The left is the big hypocrite in this regard.
If a good guy with a gun can stop a crime ( it happens more than you think) or even a mass shooting, as is the case here, doesn't restricting the ownership of good guys with guns prevent, in some measure, people's ability to protect their family, and community? After all, as demonstrated here, Bad guys are going to have guns either way.
The government cannot protect us. It's not possible. I take the responsibility to protect my family. It's an American tradition. HTH -
But the Crusades!!!! POTD.RaceBannon said:
Bull shit stretchYellowSnow said:
OBK you ignorant slut, what the fuck is this shit? Far more people have been killed for religious reasons in human history than anything remotely having to do with atheism or agnosticism. Where do you think the Nazi's got their anti-Semitism from? I'm sure it just came about in a vacuum and had nothing to do with 2000 years of Roman Catholic theology (Hitler was a baptized Catholic by the way). Furthermore, Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc., were not atheistic movements, rather, they just replaced Christianity (or whatever the national religion was) with gods (personality cults) of a different kind.oregonblitzkrieg said:Fun fact: most murderers are athiest. Just ask Dahmer. He claimed in interviews it was the lack of permanent consequences for his actions, deriving from atheism, that made it ok in his mind to commit his horrible deeds. And most atheists identify with the left wing -socialists/democrats/communists/nazis. Yeah, you read that right, nazis. They were socialists: https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
Remove the threat of permanent consequences for peoples' actions on Earth and anything goes. Everything is ok, everything is permitted, including murder. And the left wing murdered on a massive scale in Europe and elsewhere. Both Communism and Nazism were radical athiest movements that originated on the left. You might not like religion, but it can act as a buffer zone to keep peoples' worst behavior in check. The exception is Islam, which specifically incites murder and instructs its followers to kill in the name of Allah.
So it's religions fault that Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc. abandoned God and killed Millions of people thereafter????
'Ol yellow leg's putting those atrocities in Religion's column.
That's bad logic at work there.
And a bad use of the quote feature by myself. -
Where have I ever said to take one gun from one person? All I've said is better background checks. I've also said that, how they went around and bought some guns back in Australia would never work here.Sledog said:
Nothing of the sort. Illegal drugs are still widely available as laws don't always work do they? In this instance it was a failure of reporting that allowed this shit stain to buy a gun. if the Federal Government does not bother to put felons, domestic violence offenders, ( federal disqualifications from owning guns) in the criminal database, why should tens of thousands of Americans be asked to submit to background checks? This guy had issues and everyone that knew him was aware of his behavior.2001400ex said:
Then why do you agree with the war on drugs? If everyone can just buy them anyway?Sledog said:
Yes I did. Can you buy heroin? Still illegal.2001400ex said:
You didn't answer the question.Sledog said:
Prohibited people are prohibited from purchase or possession. You should know this. Blame the US military. He passed the background check. So as always your Soros talking points are bullshit.2001400ex said:
You are clearly confusing the ability to purchase versus the ability to possess. There are many legal ways for people to buy guns who are not allowed to possess guns. Why do you think it violates the second amendment to require background checks on all purchases?Sledog said:
Imagine if someone present had a gun. You can't stop these types of people from obtaining weapons. You can shoot them dead.2001400ex said:
Are you talking to yourself?Sledog said:
I'm right but there is nothing unusual about that.Sledog said:
Dishonorable discharged from the military. Bet money he had issues mentally and socially and probably on psych drugs. Most of these mass shooters are.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He killed 26 people at a church. What motive do you want?Sledog said:
That would depend on his motives which we don't know at this point. Did you call Ted Bundy a terrorist?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Terrorists.Sledog said:Evil nut bags exist. Fortunately some local showed up and shot at the pussy gunman who dropped his gun and ran.
The word is terrorists.
Hope this helps.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/06/texas-church-shooting-who-is-gunman-devin-patrick-kelley.html
And he was able to legally purchase the weapon. Even tho US law says he can't. Imagine if we were to close gun show, internet, and private sale loopholes.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/06/air-force-didnt-report-texas-shooters-domestic-violence-conviction-to-federal-database-allowing-him-to-buy-guns.html
A good guy believed an AR 15, was the best thing to defend his family and his community, who are you to tell him he is wrong, and that he shouldn't own this type of firearm with this type of magazine? He showed up with his AR15 and shot the crazy or more people may have died. This is how life functions. There is a reason rich people hire armed security but they don't like the commoners to have the means to resist. The left is the big hypocrite in this regard.
If a good guy with a gun can stop a crime ( it happens more than you think) or even a mass shooting, as is the case here, doesn't restricting the ownership of good guys with guns prevent, in some measure, people's ability to protect their family, and community? After all, as demonstrated here, Bad guys are going to have guns either way.
The government cannot protect us. It's not possible. I take the responsibility to protect my family. It's an American tradition. HTH -
This dirt bag passed a background check. Yes you and yours want them all constitutional rights be damned. Bad guys have always been able to get guns. IRA have any problem in the UK? That's a place where commoners were basically NEVER allowed weapons. But hey AK's and plastic explosives don't seem to be a problem. Suicides area common left retort but why do so many in Japan kill themselves without guns? Low crime societies are generally very homogeneous societies.2001400ex said:
Where have I ever said to take one gun from one person? All I've said is better background checks. I've also said that, how they went around and bought some guns back in Australia would never work here.Sledog said:
Nothing of the sort. Illegal drugs are still widely available as laws don't always work do they? In this instance it was a failure of reporting that allowed this shit stain to buy a gun. if the Federal Government does not bother to put felons, domestic violence offenders, ( federal disqualifications from owning guns) in the criminal database, why should tens of thousands of Americans be asked to submit to background checks? This guy had issues and everyone that knew him was aware of his behavior.2001400ex said:
Then why do you agree with the war on drugs? If everyone can just buy them anyway?Sledog said:
Yes I did. Can you buy heroin? Still illegal.2001400ex said:
You didn't answer the question.Sledog said:
Prohibited people are prohibited from purchase or possession. You should know this. Blame the US military. He passed the background check. So as always your Soros talking points are bullshit.2001400ex said:
You are clearly confusing the ability to purchase versus the ability to possess. There are many legal ways for people to buy guns who are not allowed to possess guns. Why do you think it violates the second amendment to require background checks on all purchases?Sledog said:
Imagine if someone present had a gun. You can't stop these types of people from obtaining weapons. You can shoot them dead.2001400ex said:
Are you talking to yourself?Sledog said:
I'm right but there is nothing unusual about that.Sledog said:
Dishonorable discharged from the military. Bet money he had issues mentally and socially and probably on psych drugs. Most of these mass shooters are.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He killed 26 people at a church. What motive do you want?Sledog said:
That would depend on his motives which we don't know at this point. Did you call Ted Bundy a terrorist?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Terrorists.Sledog said:Evil nut bags exist. Fortunately some local showed up and shot at the pussy gunman who dropped his gun and ran.
The word is terrorists.
Hope this helps.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/06/texas-church-shooting-who-is-gunman-devin-patrick-kelley.html
And he was able to legally purchase the weapon. Even tho US law says he can't. Imagine if we were to close gun show, internet, and private sale loopholes.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/06/air-force-didnt-report-texas-shooters-domestic-violence-conviction-to-federal-database-allowing-him-to-buy-guns.html
A good guy believed an AR 15, was the best thing to defend his family and his community, who are you to tell him he is wrong, and that he shouldn't own this type of firearm with this type of magazine? He showed up with his AR15 and shot the crazy or more people may have died. This is how life functions. There is a reason rich people hire armed security but they don't like the commoners to have the means to resist. The left is the big hypocrite in this regard.
If a good guy with a gun can stop a crime ( it happens more than you think) or even a mass shooting, as is the case here, doesn't restricting the ownership of good guys with guns prevent, in some measure, people's ability to protect their family, and community? After all, as demonstrated here, Bad guys are going to have guns either way.
The government cannot protect us. It's not possible. I take the responsibility to protect my family. It's an American tradition. HTH
So how about that evil NRA member with an AR15 stopping a mass shooting? How much has the MSM covered that? -
better background checks
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My ancestors may have shot at each other, for all I know. One great uncle on my dad's side was 82nd Airborne, made a drop into Sicily, missed D-Day, did Market Garden where he was supposedly shot through the legs by a strafing Bf109. Great uncle on my mother's side was SS paratroop officer. Dunno what his war record was, but twenty years ago I did get my hands on some documents about his postwar incarceration. He wouldn't speak about any of it to us, though. No proof, but I suspect that he became a Cold War intel asset for us in Austria for the next forty years.YellowSnow said:
I apologize if my ancestors shot at your ancestors in WWII. My grandpappy did finish up 1945 in Austria before getting shipped back home.BearsWiin said:
Grandfather was Wehrmacht, great uncle was an SS officerPitchfork51 said:
LolBearsWiin said:
From family experience, I know this to be untrueGrundleStiltzkin said:
For starters:YellowSnow said:
Clean it up guys. "Bull shit stretch" or "All over the place" are not valid arguments. The points I made above are historically accurate.GrundleStiltzkin said:
All over the place.YellowSnow said:
Where am I wrong exactly?RaceBannon said:
Bull shit stretchYellowSnow said:
OBK you ignorant slut, what the fuck is this shit? Far more people have been killed for religious reasons in human history than anything remotely having to do with atheism or agnosticism. Where do you think the Nazi's got their anti-Semitism from? I'm sure it just came about in a vacuum and had nothing to do with 2000 years of Roman Catholic theology (Hitler was a baptized Catholic by the way). Furthermore, Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc., were not atheistic movements, rather, they just replaced Christianity (or whatever the national religion was) with gods (personality cults) of a different kind.oregonblitzkrieg said:Fun fact: most murderers are athiest. Just ask Dahmer. He claimed in interviews it was the lack of permanent consequences for his actions, deriving from atheism, that made it ok in his mind to commit his horrible deeds. And most atheists identify with the left wing -socialists/democrats/communists/nazis. Yeah, you read that right, nazis. They were socialists: https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
Remove the threat of permanent consequences for peoples' actions on Earth and anything goes. Everything is ok, everything is permitted, including murder. And the left wing murdered on a massive scale in Europe and elsewhere. Both Communism and Nazism were radical athiest movements that originated on the left. You might not like religion, but it can act as a buffer zone to keep peoples' worst behavior in check. The exception is Islam, which specifically incites murder and instructs its followers to kill in the name of Allah.
Furthermore, Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc., were not atheistic movements, rather, they just replaced Christianity (or whatever the national religion was) with gods (personality cults) of a different kind.
Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist and I Maoist are explicitly atheist. While Communism replaces religious-centering & trappings with state-centricism and symbols, and "state as religion" can be used as shorthand to describe it, they are not theist. God or gods are transcendent and outside of the state, and thus cannot be tolerated. Same with Nazism. I believe to be a member of the SS, you must be a sworn atheist.
Pretty sure my Grandfather was Lutheran or Catholic or some shit
But he was not in the SS. Just a run of the mill German soldier. Don't twist. -
BearsWiin said:
My ancestors may have shot at each other, for all I know. One great uncle on my dad's side was 82nd Airborne, made a drop into Sicily, missed D-Day, did Market Garden where he was supposedly shot through the legs by a strafing Bf109. Great uncle on my mother's side was SS paratroop officer. Dunno what his war record was, but twenty years ago I did get my hands on some documents about his postwar incarceration. He wouldn't speak about any of it to us, though. No proof, but I suspect that he became a Cold War intel asset for us in Austria for the next forty years.YellowSnow said:
I apologize if my ancestors shot at your ancestors in WWII. My grandpappy did finish up 1945 in Austria before getting shipped back home.BearsWiin said:
Grandfather was Wehrmacht, great uncle was an SS officerPitchfork51 said:
LolBearsWiin said:
From family experience, I know this to be untrueGrundleStiltzkin said:
For starters:YellowSnow said:
Clean it up guys. "Bull shit stretch" or "All over the place" are not valid arguments. The points I made above are historically accurate.GrundleStiltzkin said:
All over the place.YellowSnow said:
Where am I wrong exactly?RaceBannon said:
Bull shit stretchYellowSnow said:
OBK you ignorant slut, what the fuck is this shit? Far more people have been killed for religious reasons in human history than anything remotely having to do with atheism or agnosticism. Where do you think the Nazi's got their anti-Semitism from? I'm sure it just came about in a vacuum and had nothing to do with 2000 years of Roman Catholic theology (Hitler was a baptized Catholic by the way). Furthermore, Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc., were not atheistic movements, rather, they just replaced Christianity (or whatever the national religion was) with gods (personality cults) of a different kind.oregonblitzkrieg said:Fun fact: most murderers are athiest. Just ask Dahmer. He claimed in interviews it was the lack of permanent consequences for his actions, deriving from atheism, that made it ok in his mind to commit his horrible deeds. And most atheists identify with the left wing -socialists/democrats/communists/nazis. Yeah, you read that right, nazis. They were socialists: https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
Remove the threat of permanent consequences for peoples' actions on Earth and anything goes. Everything is ok, everything is permitted, including murder. And the left wing murdered on a massive scale in Europe and elsewhere. Both Communism and Nazism were radical athiest movements that originated on the left. You might not like religion, but it can act as a buffer zone to keep peoples' worst behavior in check. The exception is Islam, which specifically incites murder and instructs its followers to kill in the name of Allah.
Furthermore, Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc., were not atheistic movements, rather, they just replaced Christianity (or whatever the national religion was) with gods (personality cults) of a different kind.
Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist and I Maoist are explicitly atheist. While Communism replaces religious-centering & trappings with state-centricism and symbols, and "state as religion" can be used as shorthand to describe it, they are not theist. God or gods are transcendent and outside of the state, and thus cannot be tolerated. Same with Nazism. I believe to be a member of the SS, you must be a sworn atheist.
Pretty sure my Grandfather was Lutheran or Catholic or some shit
But he was not in the SS. Just a run of the mill German soldier. Don't twist.
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Better than the rest of this shitshow of a thread, that's for sureAZDuck said:BearsWiin said:
My ancestors may have shot at each other, for all I know. One great uncle on my dad's side was 82nd Airborne, made a drop into Sicily, missed D-Day, did Market Garden where he was supposedly shot through the legs by a strafing Bf109. Great uncle on my mother's side was SS paratroop officer. Dunno what his war record was, but twenty years ago I did get my hands on some documents about his postwar incarceration. He wouldn't speak about any of it to us, though. No proof, but I suspect that he became a Cold War intel asset for us in Austria for the next forty years.YellowSnow said:
I apologize if my ancestors shot at your ancestors in WWII. My grandpappy did finish up 1945 in Austria before getting shipped back home.BearsWiin said:
Grandfather was Wehrmacht, great uncle was an SS officerPitchfork51 said:
LolBearsWiin said:
From family experience, I know this to be untrueGrundleStiltzkin said:
For starters:YellowSnow said:
Clean it up guys. "Bull shit stretch" or "All over the place" are not valid arguments. The points I made above are historically accurate.GrundleStiltzkin said:
All over the place.YellowSnow said:
Where am I wrong exactly?RaceBannon said:
Bull shit stretchYellowSnow said:
OBK you ignorant slut, what the fuck is this shit? Far more people have been killed for religious reasons in human history than anything remotely having to do with atheism or agnosticism. Where do you think the Nazi's got their anti-Semitism from? I'm sure it just came about in a vacuum and had nothing to do with 2000 years of Roman Catholic theology (Hitler was a baptized Catholic by the way). Furthermore, Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc., were not atheistic movements, rather, they just replaced Christianity (or whatever the national religion was) with gods (personality cults) of a different kind.oregonblitzkrieg said:Fun fact: most murderers are athiest. Just ask Dahmer. He claimed in interviews it was the lack of permanent consequences for his actions, deriving from atheism, that made it ok in his mind to commit his horrible deeds. And most atheists identify with the left wing -socialists/democrats/communists/nazis. Yeah, you read that right, nazis. They were socialists: https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
Remove the threat of permanent consequences for peoples' actions on Earth and anything goes. Everything is ok, everything is permitted, including murder. And the left wing murdered on a massive scale in Europe and elsewhere. Both Communism and Nazism were radical athiest movements that originated on the left. You might not like religion, but it can act as a buffer zone to keep peoples' worst behavior in check. The exception is Islam, which specifically incites murder and instructs its followers to kill in the name of Allah.
Furthermore, Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc., were not atheistic movements, rather, they just replaced Christianity (or whatever the national religion was) with gods (personality cults) of a different kind.
Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist and I Maoist are explicitly atheist. While Communism replaces religious-centering & trappings with state-centricism and symbols, and "state as religion" can be used as shorthand to describe it, they are not theist. God or gods are transcendent and outside of the state, and thus cannot be tolerated. Same with Nazism. I believe to be a member of the SS, you must be a sworn atheist.
Pretty sure my Grandfather was Lutheran or Catholic or some shit
But he was not in the SS. Just a run of the mill German soldier. Don't twist. -
Shooter knew he was braking the law. Did it anyway.
A System existed to effectively stop this man from buying guns anyway via legal sources.
The failure of a Government input clerk stopped the system from triggering this criminal. -
If the Brady Bill wouldn't have expired the production of magazines over five rounds for rifles and ten rounds for handguns would have been the mainstay for almost 30 years now.
Las Vegas doesn't happen, this shooting is less catastrophic, UCC is less deadly, etc.
No human is lugging around 100 magazines to make an attack. Limiting the ease of mass killing is common sense and being much more proactive with background checks would slightly help. You can always steal guns and ammo.
