Kurd independence pole
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Cage free?RaceBannon said:
This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to deathAZDuck said:Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?
And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?
AOG fucking stupid, again.
Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on -
The Kurds didn't do shit for us in GW1. The Shia Arabs in the south kind of did, and we let Saddam murderize them. You can thank Schwartzkopf and Big Dick Cheney for that one.RaceBannon said:
This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to deathAZDuck said:Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?
And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?
AOG fucking stupid, again.
Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on
Lotta people died to make Iraq a nominal US ally. So we should just piss that away for Kurdish independence? And that is completely ignoring the Turks.
We'd be better off working to ensure greater autonomy for the Kurds within Iraq. They could keep building their successful economy, undermining Turkish dickheads who call Jurds "mountain Turks," and being a wedge between Shia Iraq and Shia Iran. -
You have a great future in diplomacy sacrificing the brown folks for geopolitical games.
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I'm hearing that's the name of the gameRaceBannon said:You have a great future in diplomacy sacrificing the brown folks for geopolitical games.
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I have thought about this ever since Joe Biden floated breaking up Iraq into 3 separate countries back in the WSJ circa 2006.
It doesn't make much sense to back the Kurds for independence unless they can get some of the Kirkuk oil revenues from Baghdad.
It is also worth considering what will happen with Erdogan (in power for 14+ years now), who may follow him, if they will return to Democratic governance, and when both might happen.
Turkey is also a NATO ally which complicates matters and Germany will likely have a strong opinion about Kurdish independence as well. -
Kurds should be independent
oh your hidden assumption is we* should get involved. The US. I didn't say that. No. In a fight, though, I like the Kurds chances.AZDuck said:
The Kurds didn't do shit for us in GW1. The Shia Arabs in the south kind of did, and we let Saddam murderize them. You can thank Schwartzkopf and Big Dick Cheney for that one.RaceBannon said:
This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to deathAZDuck said:Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?
And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?
AOG fucking stupid, again.
Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on
Lotta people died to make Iraq a nominal US ally. So we should just piss that away for Kurdish independence? And that is completely ignoring the Turks.
We'd be better off working to ensure greater autonomy for the Kurds within Iraq. They could keep building their successful economy, undermining Turkish dickheads who call Jurds "mountain Turks," and being a wedge between Shia Iraq and Shia Iran. -
Iraq is a worthless shithole except for the oil. We should have pissed it away a long time ago, after seizing the oilAZDuck said:
The Kurds didn't do shit for us in GW1. The Shia Arabs in the south kind of did, and we let Saddam murderize them. You can thank Schwartzkopf and Big Dick Cheney for that one.RaceBannon said:
This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to deathAZDuck said:Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?
And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?
AOG fucking stupid, again.
Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on
Lotta people died to make Iraq a nominal US ally. So we should just piss that away for Kurdish independence? And that is completely ignoring the Turks.
We'd be better off working to ensure greater autonomy for the Kurds within Iraq. They could keep building their successful economy, undermining Turkish dickheads who call Jurds "mountain Turks," and being a wedge between Shia Iraq and Shia Iran. -
But then there would be more terrorists or somethingoregonblitzkrieg said:
Iraq is a worthless shithole except for the oil. We should have pissed it away a long time ago, after seizing the oilAZDuck said:
The Kurds didn't do shit for us in GW1. The Shia Arabs in the south kind of did, and we let Saddam murderize them. You can thank Schwartzkopf and Big Dick Cheney for that one.RaceBannon said:
This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to deathAZDuck said:Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?
And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?
AOG fucking stupid, again.
Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on
Lotta people died to make Iraq a nominal US ally. So we should just piss that away for Kurdish independence? And that is completely ignoring the Turks.
We'd be better off working to ensure greater autonomy for the Kurds within Iraq. They could keep building their successful economy, undermining Turkish dickheads who call Jurds "mountain Turks," and being a wedge between Shia Iraq and Shia Iran. -
If only we had weapons to deal with that. Permanently.Pitchfork51 said:
But then there would be more terrorists or somethingoregonblitzkrieg said:
Iraq is a worthless shithole except for the oil. We should have pissed it away a long time ago, after seizing the oilAZDuck said:
The Kurds didn't do shit for us in GW1. The Shia Arabs in the south kind of did, and we let Saddam murderize them. You can thank Schwartzkopf and Big Dick Cheney for that one.RaceBannon said:
This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to deathAZDuck said:Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?
And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?
AOG fucking stupid, again.
Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on
Lotta people died to make Iraq a nominal US ally. So we should just piss that away for Kurdish independence? And that is completely ignoring the Turks.
We'd be better off working to ensure greater autonomy for the Kurds within Iraq. They could keep building their successful economy, undermining Turkish dickheads who call Jurds "mountain Turks," and being a wedge between Shia Iraq and Shia Iran.
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Well the Kurds didn't .They just showed their bellies to the Iraqi Army that came back to repo repo repo Kirkuk. And support, without more is a faggoty waste of tim. I suppose you also "support" a free Tibet and women's rights in India, right?ApostleofGrief said:
oh your hidden assumption is we* should get involved. The US. I didn't say that. No. In a fight, though, I like the Kurds chances.AZDuck said:
The Kurds didn't do shit for us in GW1. The Shia Arabs in the south kind of did, and we let Saddam murderize them. You can thank Schwartzkopf and Big Dick Cheney for that one.RaceBannon said:
This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to deathAZDuck said:Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?
What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?
And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?
AOG fucking stupid, again.
Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on
Lotta people died to make Iraq a nominal US ally. So we should just piss that away for Kurdish independence? And that is completely ignoring the Turks.
We'd be better off working to ensure greater autonomy for the Kurds within Iraq. They could keep building their successful economy, undermining Turkish dickheads who call Jurds "mountain Turks," and being a wedge between Shia Iraq and Shia Iran.
