Kurd independence pole

ApostleofGrief

The Kurds fought hard against ISIS when the Iraqis dropped their guns and ran. I say they should be independent. What do you assholes think?

Should the Kurds be independent?

AZDuck

RedRocket

Was hoping this would be cheese related.

LebamDawg

I thought it was cheese related also - so I wheyed in

ApostleofGrief

Kurds should be independent

LebamDawg said:

I thought it was cheese related also - so I wheyed in

some of you need to read the news more often.

The kurds are so tough even the women fight. They've been getting fucked over in that region for a long time now. Saddam gassed them.

ApostleofGrief

Kurds should be independent

http://abcnews.go.com/International/women-war-meet-female-peshmerga-fighters-taking-isis/story?id=39142160

AZDuck

Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?

And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?

AOG fucking stupid, again.

oregonblitzkrieg

Give the whole country to the Kurds and let them rule it. Fuck the stupid Arabs. Arabs seem to have an IQ of about 75 and have nothing but violence in their heads. Saddam should have gassed all Iraqi arabs.

RaceBannon

AZDuck said:

Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?

And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?

AOG fucking stupid, again.

This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to death

Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on

doogie

RedRocket said:

Was hoping this would be cheese Fondue related.

Show some fucking class.

ApostleofGrief

Kurds should be independent

AZDuck said:

Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?

And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?

AOG fucking stupid, again.

There is a difference you know, between "right action" and what you want to do. Nobody actually does anything because it is the right thing to do. They do what they do because that is what they want to do.

doogie

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?

And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?

AOG fucking stupid, again.

This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to death

Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on

Cage free?

AZDuck

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?

And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?

AOG fucking stupid, again.

This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to death

Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on

The Kurds didn't do shit for us in GW1. The Shia Arabs in the south kind of did, and we let Saddam murderize them. You can thank Schwartzkopf and Big Dick Cheney for that one.

Lotta people died to make Iraq a nominal US ally. So we should just piss that away for Kurdish independence? And that is completely ignoring the Turks.

We'd be better off working to ensure greater autonomy for the Kurds within Iraq. They could keep building their successful economy, undermining Turkish dickheads who call Jurds "mountain Turks," and being a wedge between Shia Iraq and Shia Iran.

RaceBannon

You have a great future in diplomacy sacrificing the brown folks for geopolitical games.

AZDuck

RaceBannon said:

You have a great future in diplomacy sacrificing the brown folks for geopolitical games.

I'm hearing that's the name of the game

HFNY

I have thought about this ever since Joe Biden floated breaking up Iraq into 3 separate countries back in the WSJ circa 2006.

It doesn't make much sense to back the Kurds for independence unless they can get some of the Kirkuk oil revenues from Baghdad.

It is also worth considering what will happen with Erdogan (in power for 14+ years now), who may follow him, if they will return to Democratic governance, and when both might happen.

Turkey is also a NATO ally which complicates matters and Germany will likely have a strong opinion about Kurdish independence as well.

ApostleofGrief

Kurds should be independent

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?

And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?

AOG fucking stupid, again.

This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to death

Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on

The Kurds didn't do shit for us in GW1. The Shia Arabs in the south kind of did, and we let Saddam murderize them. You can thank Schwartzkopf and Big Dick Cheney for that one.

Lotta people died to make Iraq a nominal US ally. So we should just piss that away for Kurdish independence? And that is completely ignoring the Turks.

We'd be better off working to ensure greater autonomy for the Kurds within Iraq. They could keep building their successful economy, undermining Turkish dickheads who call Jurds "mountain Turks," and being a wedge between Shia Iraq and Shia Iran.

oh your hidden assumption is we* should get involved. The US. I didn't say that. No. In a fight, though, I like the Kurds chances.

oregonblitzkrieg

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?

And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?

AOG fucking stupid, again.

This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to death

Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on

The Kurds didn't do shit for us in GW1. The Shia Arabs in the south kind of did, and we let Saddam murderize them. You can thank Schwartzkopf and Big Dick Cheney for that one.

Lotta people died to make Iraq a nominal US ally. So we should just piss that away for Kurdish independence? And that is completely ignoring the Turks.

We'd be better off working to ensure greater autonomy for the Kurds within Iraq. They could keep building their successful economy, undermining Turkish dickheads who call Jurds "mountain Turks," and being a wedge between Shia Iraq and Shia Iran.

Iraq is a worthless shithole except for the oil. We should have pissed it away a long time ago, after seizing the oil

Pitchfork51

oregonblitzkrieg said:

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?

And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?

AOG fucking stupid, again.

This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to death

Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on

The Kurds didn't do shit for us in GW1. The Shia Arabs in the south kind of did, and we let Saddam murderize them. You can thank Schwartzkopf and Big Dick Cheney for that one.

Lotta people died to make Iraq a nominal US ally. So we should just piss that away for Kurdish independence? And that is completely ignoring the Turks.

We'd be better off working to ensure greater autonomy for the Kurds within Iraq. They could keep building their successful economy, undermining Turkish dickheads who call Jurds "mountain Turks," and being a wedge between Shia Iraq and Shia Iran.

Iraq is a worthless shithole except for the oil. We should have pissed it away a long time ago, after seizing the oil

But then there would be more terrorists or something

oregonblitzkrieg

Pitchfork51 said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?

And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?

AOG fucking stupid, again.

This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to death

Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on

The Kurds didn't do shit for us in GW1. The Shia Arabs in the south kind of did, and we let Saddam murderize them. You can thank Schwartzkopf and Big Dick Cheney for that one.

Lotta people died to make Iraq a nominal US ally. So we should just piss that away for Kurdish independence? And that is completely ignoring the Turks.

We'd be better off working to ensure greater autonomy for the Kurds within Iraq. They could keep building their successful economy, undermining Turkish dickheads who call Jurds "mountain Turks," and being a wedge between Shia Iraq and Shia Iran.

Iraq is a worthless shithole except for the oil. We should have pissed it away a long time ago, after seizing the oil

But then there would be more terrorists or something

If only we had weapons to deal with that. Permanently.

AZDuck

ApostleofGrief said:

AZDuck said:

RaceBannon said:

AZDuck said:

Let's think about 2nd and 3rd order effects for a minute.

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region?

What impact would Kurdish independence have on US foreign policy in the region if it were the case (or even widely believed to be the case) that the US supported said independence movement?

And what policy interests or goals of the US would be served by Kurdish independence?

AOG fucking stupid, again.

This is thinking that had us stand by as our allies in Gulf War 1 were gassed to death

Fuck Turkey and the camel it rode in on

The Kurds didn't do shit for us in GW1. The Shia Arabs in the south kind of did, and we let Saddam murderize them. You can thank Schwartzkopf and Big Dick Cheney for that one.

Lotta people died to make Iraq a nominal US ally. So we should just piss that away for Kurdish independence? And that is completely ignoring the Turks.

We'd be better off working to ensure greater autonomy for the Kurds within Iraq. They could keep building their successful economy, undermining Turkish dickheads who call Jurds "mountain Turks," and being a wedge between Shia Iraq and Shia Iran.

oh your hidden assumption is we* should get involved. The US. I didn't say that. No. In a fight, though, I like the Kurds chances.

Well the Kurds didn't .They just showed their bellies to the Iraqi Army that came back to repo repo repo Kirkuk. And support, without more is a faggoty waste of tim. I suppose you also "support" a free Tibet and women's rights in India, right?