Lose to Both UCLA & OSU...
The ubers are already pissed according to HFNY. He also noted something at the end of last year that even AANDY touched on...which was that the ubers were pleased with Wilcox but not with Sark. So HFNY's post has credibility whereas we know Kim/Samek/Eklund have no more fucking clue than any of us. They are just parroting pro-Sark crap.
After ASU all but the doogliest of doogs (Section14 types) basically realized Sark had to go. What happens after we lose to both UCLA & OSU? I think its almost a nail in the coffin regardless of the AC. Everyone knew we had to improve on the road and 1-4 would be a disaster. 6-5 going into the AC would mean we went 2-5 in last 7 games. The lack of attendence last night also helped and I bet we see the same thing the last two home games.
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I'm not sure about that after reading on the board that Woodward said he was pleased with Sark's incremental progress. He should get fired, but I question if he will.
Common sense says Sark would get fired in that scenario, but with this AD and our past history, who knows? -
Lose those two games and we find out if UW cares about football again or if the program truly is buried forever under the manboobs of its former coach.
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Disagree. Your inner doog is pressing for what it wants, not what is logical based on facts accumulated over the Gilby-Neu-Tytanic-Sark era.HeretoBeatmyChest said:And I think better than 50% odds Sark gets fired.
The ubers are already pissed according to HFNY. He also noted something at the end of last year that even AANDY touched on...which was that the ubers were pleased with Wilcox but not with Sark. So HFNY's post has credibility whereas we know Kim/Samek/Eklund have no more fucking clue than any of us. They are just parroting pro-Sark crap.
After ASU all but the doogliest of doogs (Section14 types) basically realized Sark had to go. What happens after we lose to both UCLA & OSU? I think its almost a nail in the coffin regardless of the AC. Everyone knew we had to improve on the road and 1-4 would be a disaster. 6-5 going into the AC would mean we went 2-5 in last 7 games. The lack of attendence last night also helped and I bet we see the same thing the last two home games.
You want Sark on that wall. You need Sark on that wall. Drink the Kool-aid. Fellate Pool Boy. Good doog, good doog.
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LEAVEDingaLing said:
Disagree. Your inner doog is pressing for what it wants, not what is logical based on facts accumulated over the Gilby-Neu-Tytanic-Sark era.HeretoBeatmyChest said:And I think better than 50% odds Sark gets fired.
The ubers are already pissed according to HFNY. He also noted something at the end of last year that even AANDY touched on...which was that the ubers were pleased with Wilcox but not with Sark. So HFNY's post has credibility whereas we know Kim/Samek/Eklund have no more fucking clue than any of us. They are just parroting pro-Sark crap.
After ASU all but the doogliest of doogs (Section14 types) basically realized Sark had to go. What happens after we lose to both UCLA & OSU? I think its almost a nail in the coffin regardless of the AC. Everyone knew we had to improve on the road and 1-4 would be a disaster. 6-5 going into the AC would mean we went 2-5 in last 7 games. The lack of attendence last night also helped and I bet we see the same thing the last two home games.
You want Sark on that wall. You need Sark on that wall. Drink the Kool-aid. Fellate Pool Boy. Good doog, good doog.
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Chest, I hope you are right. Hope, too, we lose to UCLA and OSU, and WSU for good measure.
I don't enjoy rooting against the present Huskies. The players are victims of a dreckfest disaster that has no chance of being remedied as long as Sark is HC. I look to a better future.
Think Chest does too. This makes us doogs? If you think so, fuck yourself. -
Homebrew_Dawg said:
LEAVEDingaLing said:
Disagree. Your inner doog is pressing for what it wants, not what is logical based on facts accumulated over the Gilby-Neu-Tytanic-Sark era.HeretoBeatmyChest said:And I think better than 50% odds Sark gets fired.
The ubers are already pissed according to HFNY. He also noted something at the end of last year that even AANDY touched on...which was that the ubers were pleased with Wilcox but not with Sark. So HFNY's post has credibility whereas we know Kim/Samek/Eklund have no more fucking clue than any of us. They are just parroting pro-Sark crap.
After ASU all but the doogliest of doogs (Section14 types) basically realized Sark had to go. What happens after we lose to both UCLA & OSU? I think its almost a nail in the coffin regardless of the AC. Everyone knew we had to improve on the road and 1-4 would be a disaster. 6-5 going into the AC would mean we went 2-5 in last 7 games. The lack of attendence last night also helped and I bet we see the same thing the last two home games.
You want Sark on that wall. You need Sark on that wall. Drink the Kool-aid. Fellate Pool Boy. Good doog, good doog.
My work is done here.
It's ok. You just don't "get it."
Whooooooshhhhhh
Neg rep me again, please, oh baby, make me come with your neg votes oh ohohohoh -
My gut says sark will be overstaying his welcome in montlake.
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Whatever. If inside joke, fine I don't get it.DingaLing said:Homebrew_Dawg said:
LEAVEDingaLing said:
Disagree. Your inner doog is pressing for what it wants, not what is logical based on facts accumulated over the Gilby-Neu-Tytanic-Sark era.HeretoBeatmyChest said:And I think better than 50% odds Sark gets fired.
The ubers are already pissed according to HFNY. He also noted something at the end of last year that even AANDY touched on...which was that the ubers were pleased with Wilcox but not with Sark. So HFNY's post has credibility whereas we know Kim/Samek/Eklund have no more fucking clue than any of us. They are just parroting pro-Sark crap.
After ASU all but the doogliest of doogs (Section14 types) basically realized Sark had to go. What happens after we lose to both UCLA & OSU? I think its almost a nail in the coffin regardless of the AC. Everyone knew we had to improve on the road and 1-4 would be a disaster. 6-5 going into the AC would mean we went 2-5 in last 7 games. The lack of attendence last night also helped and I bet we see the same thing the last two home games.
You want Sark on that wall. You need Sark on that wall. Drink the Kool-aid. Fellate Pool Boy. Good doog, good doog.
My work is done here.
It's ok. You just don't "get it."
Whooooooshhhhhh
Neg rep me again, please, oh baby, make me cumcomewith your neg votes oh ohohohoh
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If you really think I want Sark "on that wall" or want to "fellate pool boy" or "drink the Kool aid", then I cannot help you.Homebrew_Dawg said:
Whatever. If inside joke, fine I don't get it.DingaLing said:Homebrew_Dawg said:
LEAVEDingaLing said:
Disagree. Your inner doog is pressing for what it wants, not what is logical based on facts accumulated over the Gilby-Neu-Tytanic-Sark era.HeretoBeatmyChest said:And I think better than 50% odds Sark gets fired.
The ubers are already pissed according to HFNY. He also noted something at the end of last year that even AANDY touched on...which was that the ubers were pleased with Wilcox but not with Sark. So HFNY's post has credibility whereas we know Kim/Samek/Eklund have no more fucking clue than any of us. They are just parroting pro-Sark crap.
After ASU all but the doogliest of doogs (Section14 types) basically realized Sark had to go. What happens after we lose to both UCLA & OSU? I think its almost a nail in the coffin regardless of the AC. Everyone knew we had to improve on the road and 1-4 would be a disaster. 6-5 going into the AC would mean we went 2-5 in last 7 games. The lack of attendence last night also helped and I bet we see the same thing the last two home games.
You want Sark on that wall. You need Sark on that wall. Drink the Kool-aid. Fellate Pool Boy. Good doog, good doog.
My work is done here.
It's ok. You just don't "get it."
Whooooooshhhhhh
Neg rep me again, please, oh baby, make me cumcomewith your neg votes oh ohohohoh
Elaborate?
Sven got it.
Either way, my point remains: wanting Sark to be fired and knowing he will be fired based on performance are, for the most part, mutually exclusive. I found the post a bit wanting. I don't believe Sark will be fired this year, no matter what.
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I think an AC loss (plus the other two losses mentioned) would put Sark In the proverbial coffin. I used to think along the lines of Chest, but Woodtard is still making the same idiotic statements.
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I don't think there is a single chance Sark is fired after this year. Cripes, he just had an "impresive win" over one of our "rivals".
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Seems WA football has been laid to rest with Don James. His pastor is fulfilling a promise he made to James to tell people how they can be saved. That is well and good, and I don't wish to disparage his faith or the appeal being made by his pastor at the memorial service. I wish there was a savior for the football program.
Yeah, Sark will no doubt remain. Burn me for hoping Chest is right. As long as Sark is HC at UW, I am done with my alma mater. Going to follow Saban and Pinkel. -
I think an AC loss
Upon 2nd thought....will be very tough to get out from under those man boobs.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Lose those two games and we find out if UW cares about football again or if the program truly is buried forever under the manboobs of its former coach.
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DingaLing, I don't know you from Adam. I expect we share a common interest in Husky football. Neither of us are doogs, at least not totally. Neither of us has been here long. It is not always easy to glean poster's meanings, especially innuendo.
My question is this: what the fuck are we to do? The program sucks and shows no promise of improving any time soon. Is our only refuge to bitch, comment, and complain on a forum like HHB? If that is all I have, then fine. At least we are not subject to fascist censorship here.
Do posters here ever get together? I suspect I might greatly enjoy sharing a pint, or two, or ten, with you DingaLing, Chest, and others.
I am exasperated. Been a Husky fan for over 35 years. Graduated from WA in '85 and '88 and am extremely disappointed with the program since James left. To hear Pinkel, Saban, and so many others share their memories and eulogize James makes the pain worse. But, I admit it is small in comparison to Carol and his family's grief.
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I absolutely agree. In fact, aside from his boozing and whoring becoming public knowledge, I would say that the fucking dumb asses in the AD are so stupid that they would even bring him back in 2014 for a 7-6 type record.sarktastic said:I don't think there is a single chance Sark is fired after this year. Cripes, he just had an "impresive win" over one of our "rivals".
A win over Colorado and incremental progress is assured which has been the stated goal since day one.
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The thought in my OP is predicated on the ubers putting enough pressure on Woodward where he has no choice. That is my only hope. Never said Woodward would do it on his own.WedgwoodDawg said:
I absolutely agree. In fact, aside from his boozing and whoring becoming public knowledge, I would say that the fucking dumb asses in the AD are so stupid that they would even bring him back in 2014 for a 7-6 type record.sarktastic said:I don't think there is a single chance Sark is fired after this year. Cripes, he just had an "impresive win" over one of our "rivals".
A win over Colorado and incremental progress is assured which has been the stated goal since day one.
Anyone that thinks Sark has any chance of getting canned this year is not looking at Woodward and the UW ADept. with realistic perspective. -
he's not getting fired at 7-6, the only way he does is if woodward gets canned
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Where is the post by HFNY? I must have missed it.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
The thought in my OP is predicated on the ubers putting enough pressure on Woodward where he has no choice. That is my only hope. Never said Woodward would do it on his own.
I hope that the ubers are upset. I was at a Halloween party on Friday night with a bunch of medium money Tyee types and they were very, very down on Sark. They even brought up his taste for booze and hookers (allegedly) without me prompting them whatsoever. -
Its in this thread:
http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/discussion/4224/sark-s-new-offense-week-by-week-vs-d-1-schools/p1
As I brought up on our podcast....Sark's integrity issues and skeletons need to come out bc thats what will push the pussy fans and BOR over the edge.
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I think what gets me feeling the most hopeless at times is Woodward's stance, with his soft scheduling and "incremental improvement" public relations agenda. His goal is currently not to create a powerhouse football program. His goal is to create the PERCEPTION of progress being made.
The UW hands out media packets each week to media members that include a list of talking points and "by the numbers" information. Last night on TV when they started comparing UW's 12-47 record for the 5 years before Sark, as compared to the 30-28 under Sark's watch, that talking point came from UW. They're trying to manipulate the public perception of what's going on over there. -
If so, then the stadium Woodward built can slide into Lake Washington.DerekJohnson said:I think what gets me feeling the most hopeless at times is Woodward's stance, with his soft scheduling and "incremental improvement" public relations agenda. His goal is currently not to create a powerhouse football program. His goal is to create the PERCEPTION of progress being made.
The UW hands out media packets each week to media members that include a list of talking points and "by the numbers" information. Last night on TV when they started comparing UW's 12-47 record for the 5 years before Sark, as compared to the 30-28 under Sark's watch, that talking point came from UW. They're trying to manipulate the public perception of what's going on over there. -
I've maintained my stance all year that 8-4 means he will be extended, at 7-5 we'll be seeing death watch 2014, at 6-6 he's gone.
Not even Pool Boy could spin 6-6 with ending the season losing 3 in a row and losing 6 of the final 8. Even the Doogs would be pissed having lost to WSU at home.
At 6-6, Pool Boy would fire Sark so he could still remain safe. If he risks bringing Sark back then he could find himself looking for employment after 2014. -
I think 6-6 with an Apple Cup loss and even Woodward will have a very tough time not firing him. There will be too much heat if that happens. A 7-5 regular season means he can lose to UCLA and OSU, and he will be back. Doogs will use the logic that Sark lost all the games that Vegas had us as underdogs in and that he met expectations. The problem with that is, the expectations were way too fucking low to begin with because of Sark not doing a good enough job.He_Needs_More_Time said:I've maintained my stance all year that 8-4 means he will be extended, at 7-5 we'll be seeing death watch 2014, at 6-6 he's gone.
Not even Pool Boy could spin 6-6 with ending the season losing 3 in a row and losing 6 of the final 8. Even the Doogs would be pissed having lost to WSU at home.
At 6-6, Pool Boy would fire Sark so he could still remain safe. If he risks bringing Sark back then he could find himself looking for employment after 2014.
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MykFS has already started to say that. Other Doogs who at the start of the year said 10 wins or he is gone are now telling me "Well Vegas only had us winning 7 games, you can't complain if he wins 7. Plus we are returning a lot".RoadDawg55 said:
I think 6-6 with an Apple Cup loss and even Woodward will have a very tough time not firing him. There will be too much heat if that happens. A 7-5 regular season means he can lose to UCLA and OSU, and he will be back. Doogs will use the logic that Sark lost all the games that Vegas had us as underdogs in and that he met expectations. The problem with that is, the expectations were way too fucking low to begin with because of Sark not doing a good enough job.He_Needs_More_Time said:I've maintained my stance all year that 8-4 means he will be extended, at 7-5 we'll be seeing death watch 2014, at 6-6 he's gone.
Not even Pool Boy could spin 6-6 with ending the season losing 3 in a row and losing 6 of the final 8. Even the Doogs would be pissed having lost to WSU at home.
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I think 7-6 he is back, and 6-7 he is gone.
6-6 regular season he may be gone. Loosing the AC and having both teams finish 6-6 might make the "At least we didn't hire Mike Leach ROFL!!!111!!!" crowd realize Sark's limitations. We hope. -
This is why these people need to be sterilized ASAP.He_Needs_More_Time said:
MykFS has already started to say that. Other Doogs who at the start of the year said 10 wins or he is gone are now telling me "Well Vegas only had us winning 7 games, you can't complain if he wins 7. Plus we are returning a lot".RoadDawg55 said:
I think 6-6 with an Apple Cup loss and even Woodward will have a very tough time not firing him. There will be too much heat if that happens. A 7-5 regular season means he can lose to UCLA and OSU, and he will be back. Doogs will use the logic that Sark lost all the games that Vegas had us as underdogs in and that he met expectations. The problem with that is, the expectations were way too fucking low to begin with because of Sark not doing a good enough job.He_Needs_More_Time said:I've maintained my stance all year that 8-4 means he will be extended, at 7-5 we'll be seeing death watch 2014, at 6-6 he's gone.
Not even Pool Boy could spin 6-6 with ending the season losing 3 in a row and losing 6 of the final 8. Even the Doogs would be pissed having lost to WSU at home.
At 6-6, Pool Boy would fire Sark so he could still remain safe. If he risks bringing Sark back then he could find himself looking for employment after 2014. -
He_Needs_More_Time said:
I've maintained my stance all year that 8-4 means he will be extended, at 7-5 we'll be seeing death watch 2014, at 6-6 he's gone.
Not even Pool Boy could spin 6-6 with ending the season losing 3 in a row and losing 6 of the final 8. Even the Doogs would be pissed having lost to WSU at home.
At 6-6, Pool Boy would fire Sark so he could still remain safe. If he risks bringing Sark back then he could find himself looking for employment after 2014.
Who is going to put pressure on him?
I'm not convinced, at any level, UW cares enough to act on Sark within the next two years ... unless attendance drops to levels where funding is impacted. -
Going 6-6 after all this hype, with next years terrible home slate there would be pressure to make a move. A home loss to the Cougs would get even the Doogs acting like us. I don't see how he could survive 6-6 with a home loss to WSU.topdawgnc said:He_Needs_More_Time said:I've maintained my stance all year that 8-4 means he will be extended, at 7-5 we'll be seeing death watch 2014, at 6-6 he's gone.
Not even Pool Boy could spin 6-6 with ending the season losing 3 in a row and losing 6 of the final 8. Even the Doogs would be pissed having lost to WSU at home.
At 6-6, Pool Boy would fire Sark so he could still remain safe. If he risks bringing Sark back then he could find himself looking for employment after 2014.
Who is going to put pressure on him?
I'm not convinced, at any level, UW cares enough to act on Sark within the next two years ... unless attendance drops to levels where funding is impacted.
Even Pool Boy would recognize that Sark needs to go. Now am I confident he can hire a good coach? No I'm not. However, odds are that coach will be better than Sark. -
You are being very myopic.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Going 6-6 after all this hype, with next years terrible home slate there would be pressure to make a move. A home loss to the Cougs would get even the Doogs acting like us. I don't see how he could survive 6-6 with a home loss to WSU.topdawgnc said:He_Needs_More_Time said:I've maintained my stance all year that 8-4 means he will be extended, at 7-5 we'll be seeing death watch 2014, at 6-6 he's gone.
Not even Pool Boy could spin 6-6 with ending the season losing 3 in a row and losing 6 of the final 8. Even the Doogs would be pissed having lost to WSU at home.
At 6-6, Pool Boy would fire Sark so he could still remain safe. If he risks bringing Sark back then he could find himself looking for employment after 2014.
Who is going to put pressure on him?
I'm not convinced, at any level, UW cares enough to act on Sark within the next two years ... unless attendance drops to levels where funding is impacted.
Even Pool Boy would recognize that Sark needs to go. Now am I confident he can hire a good coach? No I'm not. However, odds are that coach will be better than Sark.
There is absolutely zero evidence to indicate Sark or Woody are under pressure to hit a specific number.
Actually is quite the contrary.
UW is 15-24 against the NW since 2000. 8 of those wins are against the Cougs.
10 straight blowouts to Oregon.
This right here should be enough to get an above average coach fired ... ax John Cooper.
Throw in the three game skid marks ... and the annual blowouts ...
Fact ... After getting their system in place good coaches don't get blown out ... period.
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How can we fire Sark after Don James died?
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