SURVEILLANCE: Wiretapping a Presidential Campaign Office - deserves own thread

pawz

We know HondoFS and Boobs will deny it, but this is Watergate-level stuff.

cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

https://wsj.com/articles/did-obama-know-about-comeys-surveillance-1505852932



The American people deserve to know why a FISA judge allowed a wiretap of a Presidential campaign official and what, if anything, they found. And it sounds like: not much.

We also deserve to know what Obama knew and when he knew it. I'm guessing a surveillance request of this calliber required his approval.

Unseal the documents for the American public, and the world, now.

TierbsHsotBoobs

I'm totally fine with unsealing the documents around this.

It's also worth asking what sort of terrible judgment the President had in hiring a guy who was already under FBI chinvestigation.

pawz

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

I'm totally fine with unsealing the documents around this.

It's also worth asking what sort of terrible judgment the President had in hiring a guy who was already under FBI chinvestigation.

How was he supposed to know before he was President?

Manafort wasn't kept around very long after.

TierbsHsotBoobs

pawz said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

I'm totally fine with unsealing the documents around this.

It's also worth asking what sort of terrible judgment the President had in hiring a guy who was already under FBI chinvestigation.

How was he supposed to know before he was President?

Manafort wasn't kept around very long after.

That's a fair question.

Ideally, someone in the FBI would have chintervened in private.

pawz

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

pawz said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

I'm totally fine with unsealing the documents around this.

It's also worth asking what sort of terrible judgment the President had in hiring a guy who was already under FBI chinvestigation.

How was he supposed to know before he was President?

Manafort wasn't kept around very long after.

That's a fair question.

Ideally, someone in the FBI would have chintervened in private.

Clearly they did chintervene. It's just that nobody told Trump until March.

CirrhosisDawg

pawz said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

pawz said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

I'm totally fine with unsealing the documents around this.

It's also worth asking what sort of terrible judgment the President had in hiring a guy who was already under FBI chinvestigation.

How was he supposed to know before he was President?

Manafort wasn't kept around very long after.

That's a fair question.

Ideally, someone in the FBI would have chintervened in private.

Clearly they did chintervene. It's just that nobody told Trump until March.

If only the DOJ and Congress had the ability to investigate, arraign, compel testimony, and bring these scalawags to justice1!1!

RedRocket

pawz said:

We know HondoFS and Boobs will deny it, but this is Watergate-level stuff.

cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

https://wsj.com/articles/did-obama-know-about-comeys-surveillance-1505852932



The American people deserve to know why a FISA judge allowed a wiretap of a Presidential campaign official and what, if anything, they found. And it sounds like: not much.

We also deserve to know what Obama knew and when he knew it. I'm guessing a surveillance request of this calliber required his approval.

Unseal the documents for the American public, and the world, now.

Agree but sounds like you've already made your mind up that it was illegal before any evidence one way or the other has been released. What if there was strong justification?

pawz

RedRocket said:

pawz said:

We know HondoFS and Boobs will deny it, but this is Watergate-level stuff.

cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

https://wsj.com/articles/did-obama-know-about-comeys-surveillance-1505852932



The American people deserve to know why a FISA judge allowed a wiretap of a Presidential campaign official and what, if anything, they found. And it sounds like: not much.

We also deserve to know what Obama knew and when he knew it. I'm guessing a surveillance request of this calliber required his approval.

Unseal the documents for the American public, and the world, now.

Agree but sounds like you've already made your mind up that it was illegal before any evidence one way or the other has been released. What if there was strong justification?

That's the poont. We, the public, deserve to know now.

pawz

CirrhosisDawg said:

pawz said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

pawz said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

I'm totally fine with unsealing the documents around this.

It's also worth asking what sort of terrible judgment the President had in hiring a guy who was already under FBI chinvestigation.

How was he supposed to know before he was President?

Manafort wasn't kept around very long after.

That's a fair question.

Ideally, someone in the FBI would have chintervened in private.

Clearly they did chintervene. It's just that nobody told Trump until March.

If only the DOJ and Congress had the ability to investigate, arraign, compel testimony, and bring these scalawags to justice1!1!

Somebody got started early on happy hour.

RedRocket

pawz said:

RedRocket said:

pawz said:

We know HondoFS and Boobs will deny it, but this is Watergate-level stuff.

cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

https://wsj.com/articles/did-obama-know-about-comeys-surveillance-1505852932



The American people deserve to know why a FISA judge allowed a wiretap of a Presidential campaign official and what, if anything, they found. And it sounds like: not much.

We also deserve to know what Obama knew and when he knew it. I'm guessing a surveillance request of this calliber required his approval.

Unseal the documents for the American public, and the world, now.

Agree but sounds like you've already made your mind up that it was illegal before any evidence one way or the other has been released. What if there was strong justification?

That's the poont. We, the public, deserve to know now.

You should start an online petition.

TierbsHsotBoobs

pawz said:

RedRocket said:

pawz said:

We know HondoFS and Boobs will deny it, but this is Watergate-level stuff.

cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

https://wsj.com/articles/did-obama-know-about-comeys-surveillance-1505852932



The American people deserve to know why a FISA judge allowed a wiretap of a Presidential campaign official and what, if anything, they found. And it sounds like: not much.

We also deserve to know what Obama knew and when he knew it. I'm guessing a surveillance request of this calliber required his approval.

Unseal the documents for the American public, and the world, now.

Agree but sounds like you've already made your mind up that it was illegal before any evidence one way or the other has been released. What if there was strong justification?

That's the poont. We, the public, deserve to know now.

Why do we need to know now?

pawz

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

pawz said:

RedRocket said:

pawz said:

We know HondoFS and Boobs will deny it, but this is Watergate-level stuff.

cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

https://wsj.com/articles/did-obama-know-about-comeys-surveillance-1505852932



The American people deserve to know why a FISA judge allowed a wiretap of a Presidential campaign official and what, if anything, they found. And it sounds like: not much.

We also deserve to know what Obama knew and when he knew it. I'm guessing a surveillance request of this calliber required his approval.

Unseal the documents for the American public, and the world, now.

Agree but sounds like you've already made your mind up that it was illegal before any evidence one way or the other has been released. What if there was strong justification?

That's the poont. We, the public, deserve to know now.

Why do we need to know now?

Would you prefer to wait 50+ years like the Kennedy assassination files?

TierbsHsotBoobs

pawz said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

pawz said:

RedRocket said:

pawz said:

We know HondoFS and Boobs will deny it, but this is Watergate-level stuff.

cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

https://wsj.com/articles/did-obama-know-about-comeys-surveillance-1505852932



The American people deserve to know why a FISA judge allowed a wiretap of a Presidential campaign official and what, if anything, they found. And it sounds like: not much.

We also deserve to know what Obama knew and when he knew it. I'm guessing a surveillance request of this calliber required his approval.

Unseal the documents for the American public, and the world, now.

Agree but sounds like you've already made your mind up that it was illegal before any evidence one way or the other has been released. What if there was strong justification?

That's the poont. We, the public, deserve to know now.

Why do we need to know now?

Would you prefer to wait 50+ years like the Kennedy assassination files?

No. I'm fine with receiving them any time between now and the conclusion of the Mueller chinvestigation.

Pitchfork51

Woof

pawz said:

We know HondoFS and Boobs will deny it, but this is Watergate-level stuff.

cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

https://wsj.com/articles/did-obama-know-about-comeys-surveillance-1505852932



The American people deserve to know why a FISA judge allowed a wiretap of a Presidential campaign official and what, if anything, they found. And it sounds like: not much.

We also deserve to know what Obama knew and when he knew it. I'm guessing a surveillance request of this calliber required his approval.

Unseal the documents for the American public, and the world, now.

I presume your Watergate hyperbole is related solely to the post election wiretapping of Manafort?

If you help a dictator plunder millions of dollars from his own country and then launder it back to the US, you should expect to feel some heat from the feds. If you join a presidential campaign in the middle of said investigation into your misdeeds, I'm not sure why that means the investigation should go on pause, but someone definitely should have given Trump a discrete heads up. Maybe they did, who knows what will trickle out next.

doogie

then why shouldn't Hillary feel any pressure from the Feds, who we know has direct connections to Russia?

(An awful lot of obsessive Trump hate is showing early in this thread)

2001400ex

doogie said:

then why shouldn't Hillary feel any pressure from the Feds, who we know has direct connections to Russia?

(An awful lot of obsessive Trump hate is showing early in this thread)

Gurgle.

doogie

I'm just going to wait and see who Trump appoints as political wiretap director.

RedRocket

doogie said:

I'm just going to wait and see who Trump appoints as political wiretap director.

The Mooch needs a second chance.

pawz

Woof said:

pawz said:

We know HondoFS and Boobs will deny it, but this is Watergate-level stuff.

cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

https://wsj.com/articles/did-obama-know-about-comeys-surveillance-1505852932



The American people deserve to know why a FISA judge allowed a wiretap of a Presidential campaign official and what, if anything, they found. And it sounds like: not much.

We also deserve to know what Obama knew and when he knew it. I'm guessing a surveillance request of this calliber required his approval.

Unseal the documents for the American public, and the world, now.

I presume your Watergate hyperbole is related solely to the post election wiretapping of Manafort?

Woooosh?

Woof said:

pawz said:

We know HondoFS and Boobs will deny it, but this is Watergate-level stuff.

cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

https://wsj.com/articles/did-obama-know-about-comeys-surveillance-1505852932



The American people deserve to know why a FISA judge allowed a wiretap of a Presidential campaign official and what, if anything, they found. And it sounds like: not much.

We also deserve to know what Obama knew and when he knew it. I'm guessing a surveillance request of this calliber required his approval.

Unseal the documents for the American public, and the world, now.

If you help a dictator plunder millions of dollars from his own country and then launder it back to the US, you should expect to feel some heat from the feds. If you join a presidential campaign in the middle of said investigation into your misdeeds, I'm not sure why that means the investigation should go on pause, but someone definitely should have given Trump a discrete heads up. Maybe they did, who knows what will trickle out next.

komo4buttfucker

So we are disclosing active chinvestigations to the inner-circles of alleged perpetrators now? Makes sense.

dflea

doogie said:

I'm just going to wait and see who Trump appoints as political wiretap director.

And then you'll gargle his balls.

Because it'll be cool when he does it.