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Cavs are done

dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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Kyrie sick of playing with LeBron, axe for trade.

LeBron to Lakers 2018 confirmed.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    I would still keep Kyrie. Trade him once LeBron leaves.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    There's no way they trade Kyrie and get better. The question is how well will Kyrie play if he's pissed about being there.

    I can see an argument for keeping him, but if they do they should still keep him after LeBron leaves. Unless you're saying trade him for draft picks after LeBron leaves.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,377
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    Did CNN report this?

    Irving is a key part of the Cavs. If they trade him Lebron goes too

    Suck it up
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    allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    Weird situation. He hates Lebron but everyone thinks Lebron is leaving so he demands a trade? Doesnt add up. I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs leaked this and exaggerated the doesn't want to play with Lebron part.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,377
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    allpurpleallgold said:

    Weird situation. He hates Lebron but everyone thinks Lebron is leaving so he demands a trade? Doesnt add up. I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs leaked this and exaggerated the doesn't want to play with Lebron part.

    Possible because Cleveland knows James is gone next year anyway

    Cleveland has more to gain by blowing it up than Irving. Irving's value is what it is because he played with James
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    allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    Trade Kyrie to the Lakers for Ball and Ingram. Lakers would have to add salary but they've got a few bad contracts. Cavs take a step back this year but can sell Lebron on the future and oh yeah they block the Lakers from getting Lebron next year. The Lakers would have to feel really good about signing Lebron to turn that down so if they turn it down just trade Lebron and let Kyrie have the team.

    I should be a GM.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    allpurpleallgold said:

    Trade Kyrie to the Lakers for Ball and Ingram. Lakers would have to add salary but they've got a few bad contracts. Cavs take a step back this year but can sell Lebron on the future and oh yeah they block the Lakers from getting Lebron next year. The Lakers would have to feel really good about signing Lebron to turn that down so if they turn it down just trade Lebron and let Kyrie have the team.

    I should be a GM.

    That's more than I'd give up for Irving, even without the LeBron possibilities.

    That would be a terrible move for Magic.
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    allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    You would be the GM I rip off and everybody laughs at.
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    FreeChavezFreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    Irving is somewhat injury prone and he's not really a PG. He's a very good player, but he's a dumbass for wanting to leave LeBron.

    He could average 30, but he will never be the #1 guy from a true contender.

    Never underestimate a premadonna athletes ability to be epically fucking stupid.

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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,859
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    dnc said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Trade Kyrie to the Lakers for Ball and Ingram. Lakers would have to add salary but they've got a few bad contracts. Cavs take a step back this year but can sell Lebron on the future and oh yeah they block the Lakers from getting Lebron next year. The Lakers would have to feel really good about signing Lebron to turn that down so if they turn it down just trade Lebron and let Kyrie have the team.

    I should be a GM.

    That's more than I'd give up for Irving, even without the LeBron possibilities.

    That would be a terrible move for Magic.
    But Levar Ball and Lebron in the same city for even a year - hilarity ensues.

    Nothing different than a normal AAU tournament weekend in Seattle but still.

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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    PurpleThrobber said:

    dnc said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Trade Kyrie to the Lakers for Ball and Ingram. Lakers would have to add salary but they've got a few bad contracts. Cavs take a step back this year but can sell Lebron on the future and oh yeah they block the Lakers from getting Lebron next year. The Lakers would have to feel really good about signing Lebron to turn that down so if they turn it down just trade Lebron and let Kyrie have the team.

    I should be a GM.

    That's more than I'd give up for Irving, even without the LeBron possibilities.

    That would be a terrible move for Magic.
    But Levar Ball and Lebron in the same city for even a year - hilarity ensues.

    Nothing different than a normal AAU tournament weekend in Seattle but still.

    They're gonna be in LA together for a lot longer than that
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    Kylie's asking to get out because LBJ is 100% leaving and we know that when LBJ leaves a city he usually goes out with a whimper ...

    Kyrie's trying to get out before the ship sinks ... can't blame him for that ...

    Whether he thinks LBJ is a douche or not doesn't matter ... this is all about knowing that the Cavs aren't winning shit this year and looking out for his interests
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    Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
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    FreeChavez said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Irving is somewhat injury prone and he's not really a PG. He's a very good player, but he's a dumbass for wanting to leave LeBron.

    He could average 30, but he will never be the #1 guy from a true contender.

    Never underestimate a premadonna athletes ability to be epically fucking stupid.

    The flat Earth guy does something stupid? No way!
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    Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
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    Tequilla said:

    Kylie's asking to get out because LBJ is 100% leaving and we know that when LBJ leaves a city he usually goes out with a whimper ...

    Kyrie's trying to get out before the ship sinks ... can't blame him for that ...

    Whether he thinks LBJ is a douche or not doesn't matter ... this is all about knowing that the Cavs aren't winning shit this year and looking out for his interests

    If the Cavs had any sense they would trade Bron and Kyrie for a Danny Ainge number of first round picks.

    Both will leave for nothing in return soon.
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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    It makes sense why Kyrie wants to leave. He is just in a shitty situation after this year when Lebron leaves and doesn't want to be stuck in a Jamesless Cleveland.

    I just don't know what team has the assets that Cleveland would want for him. Boston maybe? IT/Crowder + draft picks?

    I think him and Porzingis in NY would be an interesting dynamic/core to build around that could do some damage after the Lebron/Warriors era. Then again it's still the fucking Knicks.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,377
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    Tequilla said:

    Kylie's asking to get out because LBJ is 100% leaving and we know that when LBJ leaves a city he usually goes out with a whimper ...

    Kyrie's trying to get out before the ship sinks ... can't blame him for that ...

    Whether he thinks LBJ is a douche or not doesn't matter ... this is all about knowing that the Cavs aren't winning shit this year and looking out for his interests

    He leaves after losing the finals. hardly a wimper. They will go to the finals again this year. With Kyrie they may even win
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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    So apparently Lebron wants to SMASH Kyrie's face in!!!
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    CuntWaffle said:

    So apparently Lebron wants to SMASH Kyrie's face in!!!

    One thing I've always hated about LeBron is that he loves drama. I don't know whether that's because of him, the Kardashian blueprint of keeping your name in the news, or the hot take mentality of the media, but it's always something.
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