Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.
Johnny Wilson, 2020 5* WR, Calabasas, CA (Offered 7/14/17)
Comments
-
Why do you think he is going to be a bust? On campus for a few weeks and leads all receivers in the spring game 7 catches 48yrds no drops...FirePete said:
Delgado should be good, still don’t understand why we didn’t accept his commitment. Pittman is going to be a bustIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Cool. We?ll gladly take Wilson off yore hands the same way we did Delgado and Pittman.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good. -
Oh well the Spring game why didn't you say so?
Sounds like the defensive backs suck then -
And 48 yards, lol.RaceBannon said:Oh well the Spring game why didn't you say so?
Sounds like the defensive backs suck then -
The original Sark, the UW one actually named Sark not the UO one bringing sizzle to eugene, also like to let scrubs star in the spring game.blackmamba said:
Why do you think he is going to be a bust? On campus for a few weeks and leads all receivers in the spring game 7 catches 48yrds no drops...FirePete said:
Delgado should be good, still don’t understand why we didn’t accept his commitment. Pittman is going to be a bustIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Cool. We?ll gladly take Wilson off yore hands the same way we did Delgado and Pittman.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good. -
I totally disagree re Pittman. I for one wanted him badly. I compared him to Steve Smith while he was being recruited. He is going to be very good. Delgado? Mheh
-
If the board is about opinions, don’t then say “the coaches agree” that Wilson won’t ever amount to shit and that “they’ve moved on and found doods that are better” unless you’ve talked to someone on staff. I’m all about being able to predict if a player is going to suck, despite how pointless it is, but when you speak on the coaches behalf without information from them it waters down when someone on here does have internal information.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good. -
Either Delgado and Pittman will be fine, or they won't. That's why you recruit Jaylon Redd and Isaah Crocker in front of them. And that's why you recruit Kris Hutson and Seven McGee behind them, and take Gary Bryant's commitment if he gives it you.FirePete said:
Delgado should be good, still don’t understand why we didn’t accept his commitment. Pittman is going to be a bustIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Cool. We?ll gladly take Wilson off yore hands the same way we did Delgado and Pittman.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good.
Saying yore Cristobal is 100% accurate about how an 18-year-old is going to turn out is the sign of a Bothell edumacation. -
If he commits,
Bellevue community college edumacationIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Either Delgado and Pittman will be fine, or they won't. That's why you recruit Jaylon Redd and Isaah Crocker in front of them. And that's why you recruit Kris Hutson and Seven McGee behind them, and take Gary Bryant's commitment if he gives it you.FirePete said:
Delgado should be good, still don’t understand why we didn’t accept his commitment. Pittman is going to be a bustIPukeOregonGrellow said:
Cool. We?ll gladly take Wilson off yore hands the same way we did Delgado and Pittman.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good.
Saying yore Cristobal is 100% accurate about how an 18-year-old is going to turn out is the sign of a Bothell edumacation. -
Wilson ran a laser sub 4.6 at 6’6” 220 and he catches the ball well. At minimum he’s a high floor player.
As far as Pittman, he has clamps for hands, runs good routes and is tough to tackles after the catch. Kid is a total alpha. -
He’s on reality TV with whiny OC white girls.lawsandl said:Wilson ran a laser sub 4.6 at 6’6” 220 and he catches the ball well. At minimum he’s a high floor player.
As far as Pittman, he has clamps for hands, runs good routes and is tough to tackles after the catch. Kid is a total alpha.
He might be a great WR. He’s no fucking alpha.
