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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    haie said:

    lol at all the shit talking Nuggets fans after getting Millsap. They still suck harder than the blazers

    This is like Coogs and Boovs talking shit about football.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,665 Founders Club

    haie said:

    lol at all the shit talking Nuggets fans after getting Millsap. They still suck harder than the blazers

    This is like Coogs and Boovs talking shit about football.
    Honorary 1st round mouth to GS is an award I covet.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Blake Griffin resigning with Clips. Why?

    And Paul George to OKC. Interesting.

    $$$$$ and more $$$$.

    And he doesn't have to put up with CP3 any longer.

    It really doesn't matter since Iggy just re-upped with the Dubs. Everybody playing for second for the next few years.



    I meant why the fuck did the Clippers do it.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    LeBron should just off Gilbert, no jury would convict.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Is it June yet?
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795

    Golden State is not deep beyond the big 4. Igoudala, Livingston, the end. And if one of you fucktards mentions Javale McGee you'll be banned from my cafe.

    The Nick Young signing changes that entirely IMO. He'll be the best offensive bench player the Warriors have had during this whole run
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    If anyone else signed Nick Young no one would say anything. Maybe a "why?". But the Warriors do it and it's genius.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Paul George to OKC is nice and all but still nowhere close to the Warriors.

    Paul George would have made more impact for Portland in his rent a Season. In fact I could have seen Portland in the WCF with Him and the emergence of Nurkic. That's what theyre missing is an impact 3/D to take the next step. Basically what Allen Crabbe could be but doesn't want to be.

    OKC won't get out of the 1st round.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Blake Griffin resigning with Clips. Why?

    And Paul George to OKC. Interesting.

    $$$$$ and more $$$$.

    And he doesn't have to put up with CP3 any longer.

    It really doesn't matter since Iggy just re-upped with the Dubs. Everybody playing for second for the next few years.



    And He's a loser by nature, and now that Paul's gone, the Clips are free to SuperClip for the next 5 years.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Blake Griffin resigning with Clips. Why?

    And Paul George to OKC. Interesting.

    $$$$$ and more $$$$.

    And he doesn't have to put up with CP3 any longer.

    It really doesn't matter since Iggy just re-upped with the Dubs. Everybody playing for second for the next few years.



    I meant why the fuck did the Clippers do it.
    Because they are a shitty franchise, that's why.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,015
    salemcoog said:

    Blake Griffin resigning with Clips. Why?

    And Paul George to OKC. Interesting.

    $$$$$ and more $$$$.

    And he doesn't have to put up with CP3 any longer.

    It really doesn't matter since Iggy just re-upped with the Dubs. Everybody playing for second for the next few years.



    I meant why the fuck did the Clippers do it.
    Because they are a shitty franchise, that's why.
    Ballmer.

    #brevity
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Presti has done fine given his constraints

    Not arguing to argue ... find me a material FA that has gone to OKC

    Nobody ever said anything about a free agent signing there. It will never happen unless they give the max to a borderline all star.
    Which means to me that they will eventually need a surplus of picks to get the kind of team/depth required to be relevant
    If Westbrook leaves they are completely fucked for years and will need to make multiple good draft picks. Then they will have to wait for those picks to develop. Water is wet.
    They did that. They had Westbrook, KD, The Beard, K-Mart, Ibaka, and Sefelosha. They all left but one.

    As the landscape sits now if you don't have a super team you are the farm league for one.

    Look at Gayward to Boston. The Jazz have a really good young team built up that were going to be a playoff team for years and he bolted because Boston was a step ahead.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Mosster47 said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Presti has done fine given his constraints

    Not arguing to argue ... find me a material FA that has gone to OKC

    Nobody ever said anything about a free agent signing there. It will never happen unless they give the max to a borderline all star.
    Which means to me that they will eventually need a surplus of picks to get the kind of team/depth required to be relevant
    If Westbrook leaves they are completely fucked for years and will need to make multiple good draft picks. Then they will have to wait for those picks to develop. Water is wet.
    They did that. They had Westbrook, KD, The Beard, K-Mart, Ibaka, and Sefelosha. They all left but one.

    As the landscape sits now if you don't have a super team you are the farm league for one.

    Look at Gayward to Boston. The Jazz have a really good young team built up that were going to be a playoff team for years and he bolted because Boston was a step ahead.
    Being a playoff team for years in the NBA does not mean you are good.
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795

    Mosster47 said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Presti has done fine given his constraints

    Not arguing to argue ... find me a material FA that has gone to OKC

    Nobody ever said anything about a free agent signing there. It will never happen unless they give the max to a borderline all star.
    Which means to me that they will eventually need a surplus of picks to get the kind of team/depth required to be relevant
    If Westbrook leaves they are completely fucked for years and will need to make multiple good draft picks. Then they will have to wait for those picks to develop. Water is wet.
    They did that. They had Westbrook, KD, The Beard, K-Mart, Ibaka, and Sefelosha. They all left but one.

    As the landscape sits now if you don't have a super team you are the farm league for one.

    Look at Gayward to Boston. The Jazz have a really good young team built up that were going to be a playoff team for years and he bolted because Boston was a step ahead.
    Being a playoff team for years in the NBA does not mean you are good.
    Memphis Grizzlies and Atlanta Hawks are prime examples of this
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    NEsnake12 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Presti has done fine given his constraints

    Not arguing to argue ... find me a material FA that has gone to OKC

    Nobody ever said anything about a free agent signing there. It will never happen unless they give the max to a borderline all star.
    Which means to me that they will eventually need a surplus of picks to get the kind of team/depth required to be relevant
    If Westbrook leaves they are completely fucked for years and will need to make multiple good draft picks. Then they will have to wait for those picks to develop. Water is wet.
    They did that. They had Westbrook, KD, The Beard, K-Mart, Ibaka, and Sefelosha. They all left but one.

    As the landscape sits now if you don't have a super team you are the farm league for one.

    Look at Gayward to Boston. The Jazz have a really good young team built up that were going to be a playoff team for years and he bolted because Boston was a step ahead.
    Being a playoff team for years in the NBA does not mean you are good.
    Memphis Grizzlies and Atlanta Hawks are prime examples of this
    hurtful
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    NEsnake12 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Presti has done fine given his constraints

    Not arguing to argue ... find me a material FA that has gone to OKC

    Nobody ever said anything about a free agent signing there. It will never happen unless they give the max to a borderline all star.
    Which means to me that they will eventually need a surplus of picks to get the kind of team/depth required to be relevant
    If Westbrook leaves they are completely fucked for years and will need to make multiple good draft picks. Then they will have to wait for those picks to develop. Water is wet.
    They did that. They had Westbrook, KD, The Beard, K-Mart, Ibaka, and Sefelosha. They all left but one.

    As the landscape sits now if you don't have a super team you are the farm league for one.

    Look at Gayward to Boston. The Jazz have a really good young team built up that were going to be a playoff team for years and he bolted because Boston was a step ahead.
    Being a playoff team for years in the NBA does not mean you are good.
    Memphis Grizzlies, Portland Trail Blazers, Seattle Supersonics (RIP) and Atlanta Hawks are prime examples of this
    Too lazy to add the others.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    NEsnake12 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Presti has done fine given his constraints

    Not arguing to argue ... find me a material FA that has gone to OKC

    Nobody ever said anything about a free agent signing there. It will never happen unless they give the max to a borderline all star.
    Which means to me that they will eventually need a surplus of picks to get the kind of team/depth required to be relevant
    If Westbrook leaves they are completely fucked for years and will need to make multiple good draft picks. Then they will have to wait for those picks to develop. Water is wet.
    They did that. They had Westbrook, KD, The Beard, K-Mart, Ibaka, and Sefelosha. They all left but one.

    As the landscape sits now if you don't have a super team you are the farm league for one.

    Look at Gayward to Boston. The Jazz have a really good young team built up that were going to be a playoff team for years and he bolted because Boston was a step ahead.
    Being a playoff team for years in the NBA does not mean you are good.
    Memphis Grizzlies and Atlanta Hawks are prime examples of this
    The Portland Trail Blazers are better examples
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Presti has done fine given his constraints

    Not arguing to argue ... find me a material FA that has gone to OKC

    Nobody ever said anything about a free agent signing there. It will never happen unless they give the max to a borderline all star.
    Which means to me that they will eventually need a surplus of picks to get the kind of team/depth required to be relevant
    If Westbrook leaves they are completely fucked for years and will need to make multiple good draft picks. Then they will have to wait for those picks to develop. Water is wet.
    They did that. They had Westbrook, KD, The Beard, K-Mart, Ibaka, and Sefelosha. They all left but one.

    As the landscape sits now if you don't have a super team you are the farm league for one.

    Look at Gayward to Boston. The Jazz have a really good young team built up that were going to be a playoff team for years and he bolted because Boston was a step ahead.
    Being a playoff team for years in the NBA does not mean you are good.
    Memphis Grizzlies and Atlanta Hawks are prime examples of this
    The Portland Trail Blazers are better examples
    12 hours and 53 minutes, bitch.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Trailblazers are a good example.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    But aren't the Trailblazers the best example?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Brian Kelly and Brian Kelly would like to submit the Blazers for consideration
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    Blazers only have 4 straight playoff appearances, Grizzlies are at 7 and Hawks at 10 which is why I singled out those 2. But Blazers are also a good example.

    All 3 of those teams (and some others) should quit now and become the next generation of tankers now that Sixers/Lakers/Wolves are stating to look up.

    Hawks look like they're going to finally do that after dumping Howard, Millsap, and Hardaway Jr. this offseason and bringing in no one. But neither Grizzlies or Blazers are going anywhere besides the 6-8 seed range for the next few years, and neither will attract free agents. Worst place to be.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Presti has done fine given his constraints

    Not arguing to argue ... find me a material FA that has gone to OKC

    Nobody ever said anything about a free agent signing there. It will never happen unless they give the max to a borderline all star.
    Which means to me that they will eventually need a surplus of picks to get the kind of team/depth required to be relevant
    If Westbrook leaves they are completely fucked for years and will need to make multiple good draft picks. Then they will have to wait for those picks to develop. Water is wet.
    They did that. They had Westbrook, KD, The Beard, K-Mart, Ibaka, and Sefelosha. They all left but one.

    As the landscape sits now if you don't have a super team you are the farm league for one.

    Look at Gayward to Boston. The Jazz have a really good young team built up that were going to be a playoff team for years and he bolted because Boston was a step ahead.
    Being a playoff team for years in the NBA does not mean you are good.
    Memphis Grizzlies and Atlanta Hawks are prime examples of this
    The Portland Trail Blazers are better examples
    12 hours and 53 minutes, bitch.
    You assume I read your BS
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Presti has done fine given his constraints

    Not arguing to argue ... find me a material FA that has gone to OKC

    Nobody ever said anything about a free agent signing there. It will never happen unless they give the max to a borderline all star.
    Which means to me that they will eventually need a surplus of picks to get the kind of team/depth required to be relevant
    If Westbrook leaves they are completely fucked for years and will need to make multiple good draft picks. Then they will have to wait for those picks to develop. Water is wet.
    They did that. They had Westbrook, KD, The Beard, K-Mart, Ibaka, and Sefelosha. They all left but one.

    As the landscape sits now if you don't have a super team you are the farm league for one.

    Look at Gayward to Boston. The Jazz have a really good young team built up that were going to be a playoff team for years and he bolted because Boston was a step ahead.
    Being a playoff team for years in the NBA does not mean you are good.
    Memphis Grizzlies and Atlanta Hawks are prime examples of this
    The Portland Trail Blazers are better examples
    12 hours and 53 minutes, bitch.
    You assume I read your BS
    The irony
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Presti has done fine given his constraints

    Not arguing to argue ... find me a material FA that has gone to OKC

    Nobody ever said anything about a free agent signing there. It will never happen unless they give the max to a borderline all star.
    Which means to me that they will eventually need a surplus of picks to get the kind of team/depth required to be relevant
    If Westbrook leaves they are completely fucked for years and will need to make multiple good draft picks. Then they will have to wait for those picks to develop. Water is wet.
    They did that. They had Westbrook, KD, The Beard, K-Mart, Ibaka, and Sefelosha. They all left but one.

    As the landscape sits now if you don't have a super team you are the farm league for one.

    Look at Gayward to Boston. The Jazz have a really good young team built up that were going to be a playoff team for years and he bolted because Boston was a step ahead.
    Being a playoff team for years in the NBA does not mean you are good.
    Memphis Grizzlies and Atlanta Hawks are prime examples of this
    The Portland Trail Blazers are better examples
    12 hours and 53 minutes, bitch.
    You assume I read your BS
    The irony
    Nothing gets past you
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    NEsnake12 said:

    Blazers only have 4 straight playoff appearances, Grizzlies are at 7 and Hawks at 10 which is why I singled out those 2. But Blazers are also a good example.

    All 3 of those teams (and some others) should quit now and become the next generation of tankers now that Sixers/Lakers/Wolves are stating to look up.

    Hawks look like they're going to finally do that after dumping Howard, Millsap, and Hardaway Jr. this offseason and bringing in no one. But neither Grizzlies or Blazers are going anywhere besides the 6-8 seed range for the next few years, and neither will attract free agents. Worst place to be.

    So, yes but also no. The worst place to be is the Kings. Lottery pick after lottery and still not close to being a contender. Being a bottom tier playoff team has positives.

    You look at the best teams and plenty weren't built on tanking. Rockets never tanked. The Warriors were bad but Steph was like the 8th pick or something. Draymond went in the second round. The old Duncan Spurs were a tank job but the current ones are built around Kawhi who they got in a trade for George Hill. Celtics haven't been built from tanking.

    The way to build a contender is to be a good organization and get lucky. That's true whether you tank or not.
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795

    NEsnake12 said:

    Blazers only have 4 straight playoff appearances, Grizzlies are at 7 and Hawks at 10 which is why I singled out those 2. But Blazers are also a good example.

    All 3 of those teams (and some others) should quit now and become the next generation of tankers now that Sixers/Lakers/Wolves are stating to look up.

    Hawks look like they're going to finally do that after dumping Howard, Millsap, and Hardaway Jr. this offseason and bringing in no one. But neither Grizzlies or Blazers are going anywhere besides the 6-8 seed range for the next few years, and neither will attract free agents. Worst place to be.

    So, yes but also no. The worst place to be is the Kings. Lottery pick after lottery and still not close to being a contender. Being a bottom tier playoff team has positives.

    You look at the best teams and plenty weren't built on tanking. Rockets never tanked. The Warriors were bad but Steph was like the 8th pick or something. Draymond went in the second round. The old Duncan Spurs were a tank job but the current ones are built around Kawhi who they got in a trade for George Hill. Celtics haven't been built from tanking.

    The way to build a contender is to be a good organization and get lucky. That's true whether you tank or not.
    I mostly agree... without a well run organization and some good luck you can't build a contender. Kings were the worst run organization in the NBA for the last decade or so until the Knicks decided to steal that crown recently. Bad draft pick after bad draft pick and trying to build around a shithead player like Cousins. Also, teams like the Celtics and Rockets are so well run that they made great timed strategic trades to get them to where they are now.

    But I will say that tanking reduces the amount of luck a given team needs. Some of it can be attributed to great scouting, but it's so rare that those later draft picks like Kawhi, Greek Freak, or Draymond turn into superstars. I think it's much safer to go after high lottery picks as long as you fully commit to the tank.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    What cunt would click on this thread? Wrong site buttfucks...