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Kyle Ford, 4* 2019 WR, Anaheim (Servite), CA (Offered 5/21/17)

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  • animateanimate Member Posts: 4,240
    At this point I'm more interested in the chaos and fallout if kk actually left usc... That would be entertaining to no end.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,882
    whuggy said:

    Tequilla said:

    whuggy said:

    Tequilla said:

    It’s easy to play Monday Morning QB

    If the strategy works nobody complains

    When it misses turn everything over and blow it up

    There are consequences to behaviors and strategies

    Where is the upside to shutting down a positions recruiting and trusting the “commitment” of a kid when it’s backfired multiple times. This isn’t an outlier this has hurt us in multiple occasions to the point I want to know the pros about telling kids to fuck off do to a positional cap. It’s dumb.
    Very correct. The position should be recruited up until Player A signs. Player B can also commit but should be told the offer is only committable if Player A doesn't sign in the early period. Then even after they sign all players should be continually recruited up until the first day of practice. After that coaches can back off slightly but still have to suck player dick because the new transfer rules means players on your roster will still be recruited by other teams.
    This is one of the most fucktardedly idiotic thing I've ever seen on this board

    Let's just say that there are 10 different positional groups on a football team (QB, RB, TE, WR, OL, DL, ILB, OLB, CB, S) so you're advocating for a +1 10 different times.

    So first thing first, you're asking 10 ELITE level kids to be willing to go up to early Signing Day with a non committable offer while spots at other ELITE programs are filling up.

    Do you realize how fucking laughable that is?

    In other words, you're essentially advocating "transparently slow playing" guys ... which could be described as a similar strategy as to what is done with in-state players ... which most are all over for saying that our strategy absolutely sucks ass.

    So what you're really advocating with that strategy is not having elite players on the hook but having more Plan B guys on the hook ... who potentially aren't signing anyway on early Signing Day as they wait to see how things shake out at the big time programs because that Oregon St offer will always be there still if they are good enough.
    Uh no. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not sure about your reading comprehension. I'm simply saying you keep recruiting the position until your first choice signs. If your first choice doesn't sign in early period then you at least have an option with your second choice. Your second choice is not likely to be elite.
    My reading comprehension is fine

    Just that what you are advocating is against what Pete has established

    Now, he could change it ... but as is isn’t happening
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    Domicillo said:

    Has ford signed? Or is he still just committed? Because If Kliff leaves you have to think he won’t be happy.

    Kliff is the excuse, he’s not the reason any of these kids choose to go USC.
    This doesn't make any real sense, why do these kids need an "excuse". They grew up rooting for USC, USC was their dream school, it's close to home, etc. That's all the "excuse" they need. They don't have to mention coaching at all, especially not a coach who hasn't even been there. If they're bringing @KkkliffKkklingsbury up on their own it's probably because they like KKKliff.

    And if you were a WR, why the hell wouldn't you like him?
  • ThebourbinatorThebourbinator Member Posts: 664
    edited January 2019
    Welp, rumor has it kliff is interviewing, so either he resigned from USC or they backed off
  • animateanimate Member Posts: 4,240
    Not ethically right! Lol
  • DomicilloDomicillo Member Posts: 3,025
    edited January 2019

    Domicillo said:

    Has ford signed? Or is he still just committed? Because If Kliff leaves you have to think he won’t be happy.

    Kliff is the excuse, he’s not the reason any of these kids choose to go USC.
    This doesn't make any real sense, why do these kids need an "excuse". They grew up rooting for USC, USC was their dream school, it's close to home, etc. That's all the "excuse" they need. They don't have to mention coaching at all, especially not a coach who hasn't even been there. If they're bringing @KkkliffKkklingsbury up on their own it's probably because they like KKKliff.

    And if you were a WR, why the hell wouldn't you like him?
    He’s the excuse that USC is actually changing their culture/addressing the problems that plagued them this year but that is far more about optics than fact. If USC didn’t get Kliff, their “off-season turnaround” doesn’t exist. He’s the only poster boy validating Clay keeping his job. But don’t get it twisted, all of these kids were going to commit to USC regardless, he just makes it easier to sell to the public.

    Read what some of these kids are saying, Kliff never comes up on their own unless promoted by an interviewer. We’re saying the same thing, they don’t need an excuse for themselves, they already decided on USC, just makes it easier to sell the decision to others from a football perspective.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    Domicillo said:

    Domicillo said:

    Has ford signed? Or is he still just committed? Because If Kliff leaves you have to think he won’t be happy.

    Kliff is the excuse, he’s not the reason any of these kids choose to go USC.
    This doesn't make any real sense, why do these kids need an "excuse". They grew up rooting for USC, USC was their dream school, it's close to home, etc. That's all the "excuse" they need. They don't have to mention coaching at all, especially not a coach who hasn't even been there. If they're bringing @KkkliffKkklingsbury up on their own it's probably because they like KKKliff.

    And if you were a WR, why the hell wouldn't you like him?
    He’s the excuse that USC is actually changing their culture/addressing the problems that plagued them this year but that is far more about optics than fact. If USC didn’t get Kliff, their “off-season turnaround” doesn’t exist. He’s the only poster boy validating Clay keeping his job. But don’t get it twisted, all of these kids were going to commit to USC regardless, he just makes it easier to sell to the public.

    Read what some of these kids are saying, Kliff never comes up on their own unless promoted by an interviewer. We’re saying the same thing, they don’t need an excuse for themselves, they already decided on USC, just makes it easier to sell the decision to others from a football perspective.
    We’re not saying the same thing though, I’m saying it’s very possible Ford doesn’t pick SC if not for Kliff. If Kliff leaves before signing day it will be very interesting to see if Ford waivers.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Both Ford and McCoy committed as he was rumored to be interviewing

    Who this might impact is nacua. He expressed concern in a Huffman article over r the uncertainty with Utah's oc situation. This would almost certainly make him raise an eye.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    dhdawg said:

    Both Ford and McCoy committed as he was rumored to be interviewing

    Who this might impact is nacua. He expressed concern in a Huffman article over r the uncertainty with Utah's oc situation. This would almost certainly make him raise an eye.

    McCoy signed in December
  • DomicilloDomicillo Member Posts: 3,025

    Domicillo said:

    Domicillo said:

    Has ford signed? Or is he still just committed? Because If Kliff leaves you have to think he won’t be happy.

    Kliff is the excuse, he’s not the reason any of these kids choose to go USC.
    This doesn't make any real sense, why do these kids need an "excuse". They grew up rooting for USC, USC was their dream school, it's close to home, etc. That's all the "excuse" they need. They don't have to mention coaching at all, especially not a coach who hasn't even been there. If they're bringing @KkkliffKkklingsbury up on their own it's probably because they like KKKliff.

    And if you were a WR, why the hell wouldn't you like him?
    He’s the excuse that USC is actually changing their culture/addressing the problems that plagued them this year but that is far more about optics than fact. If USC didn’t get Kliff, their “off-season turnaround” doesn’t exist. He’s the only poster boy validating Clay keeping his job. But don’t get it twisted, all of these kids were going to commit to USC regardless, he just makes it easier to sell to the public.

    Read what some of these kids are saying, Kliff never comes up on their own unless promoted by an interviewer. We’re saying the same thing, they don’t need an excuse for themselves, they already decided on USC, just makes it easier to sell the decision to others from a football perspective.
    We’re not saying the same thing though, I’m saying it’s very possible Ford doesn’t pick SC if not for Kliff. If Kliff leaves before signing day it will be very interesting to see if Ford waivers.
    Well then, I hope you’re right, but I don’t think there’s a chance Ford leaves if Kliff isn’t there. Kid wants to be the next JuJu and was sold on the “USC alumni” connections. We got out built for life for him, Kliff’s just a talking point.
  • JustWinNowJustWinNow Member Posts: 357
    Ford is gone. He is USC fast strategy. We only have a shot with Nacua and we can't fuck around. We need to get Marcus Tuiasasopo on staff asap to show him the UW way. We have a shot with him. Not with socal private school guys that are wanted by USC. Not at the moment any way. In the future maybe. But not now.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    edited January 2019

    Ford is gone. He is USC fast strategy. We only have a shot with Nacua and we can't fuck around. We need to get Marcus Tuiasasopo on staff asap to show him the UW way. We have a shot with him. Not with socal private school guys that are wanted by USC. Not at the moment any way. In the future maybe. But not now.

    You are a doog if you want to hire Tui as our WR coach lol.

    We are getting some of the SoCal private school kids too. It’s fucking sales!
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Tui made his bed moment he decided to leave uw, he was given the option stay
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,432
    dhdawg said:

    Tui has bounced around for years at the same position. He's not what we need.

    Can't be worse than lubick
  • JustWinNowJustWinNow Member Posts: 357

    Ford is gone. He is USC fast strategy. We only have a shot with Nacua and we can't fuck around. We need to get Marcus Tuiasasopo on staff asap to show him the UW way. We have a shot with him. Not with socal private school guys that are wanted by USC. Not at the moment any way. In the future maybe. But not now.

    You are a doog if you want to hire Tui as our WR coach lol.

    Currently we are getting some socal private school guys but not the big time players we really want and need and should by now given the success. I don't need Tui to be the WR coach but at least someone like him. He has a good resume. I don't want some fuck that is just a Petersen yes man. Which is what we will probably get. Tui was at least a pro and has coached other places in the pac 12. He can recruit the islands and knows socal recruiting somewhat. I am a doog for wanting Tui but I bet he will be better than who ever we get. Also since it's sales. Successful companies hire a proven salesman when they hire not fuckers that are just starting out as salesmen. So Petersen should hire a fucken stud. But he won't he will hire a kiss ass. Therefore my Tui choice will be better than who ever he hires.

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