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You're confusing shit here ...RoadDawg55 said:
That was my point. A lot of these teams have to basically throw outrageous money at guys like Smart because they have to sign someone to reach the salary floor. Don't be TequillaFS.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
NBA GMs are dumb and bad.RoadDawg55 said:
Lol I knew this was coming. When a 29% shooter from 3 goes 7-10 and LeBron takes the day off...Tequilla said:
And what I've been saying all year that I'd rather pay Bradley/Smart than IT max ...WilburHooksHands said:
Im saying your argument that IT shouldnt get max money becuase hes a defensive liability is FS.Tequilla said:
You're not seriously trying to compare IT to Curry are you?WilburHooksHands said:Saying IT needs to be the 4th best guy on his team to win is about as shitpost as it gets. Also Im glad GS will give max money to noted defensive stopper Steph Curry.
IT's skill level is more consistent with the 2nd or 3rd option ... his size makes him ideally suited to be a 6th man.
Most said I was crazy ...
How's that looking tonight?
And you are damn right if I'm a championship level team I'm not paying max money to a expensive liability
Smart and Bradley are both 20+ mil players in today's NBA. Even Turner gets 4 years 75, Chandler Parsons gets the max. Stick to fantasy hoops.
I absolutely realize that teams overpay for players ... I don't blame players for taking the money.
But if you are a team with aspirations of winning titles, you don't offer FS contracts.
And if you are a player with aspirations of winning titles, sometimes you have to make some financial sacrifices to ensure that you have the best squad around you at all times. -
IT killed it tonight
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If Bost
Isaiah doesn't. They have cap room to sign a guy this offseason. Isaiah, Bradley, and Smart will all be free agents after next year. Thing is, Boston could re-sign all 3, although they won't.Tequilla said:
You're confusing shit here ...RoadDawg55 said:
That was my point. A lot of these teams have to basically throw outrageous money at guys like Smart because they have to sign someone to reach the salary floor. Don't be TequillaFS.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
NBA GMs are dumb and bad.RoadDawg55 said:
Lol I knew this was coming. When a 29% shooter from 3 goes 7-10 and LeBron takes the day off...Tequilla said:
And what I've been saying all year that I'd rather pay Bradley/Smart than IT max ...WilburHooksHands said:
Im saying your argument that IT shouldnt get max money becuase hes a defensive liability is FS.Tequilla said:
You're not seriously trying to compare IT to Curry are you?WilburHooksHands said:Saying IT needs to be the 4th best guy on his team to win is about as shitpost as it gets. Also Im glad GS will give max money to noted defensive stopper Steph Curry.
IT's skill level is more consistent with the 2nd or 3rd option ... his size makes him ideally suited to be a 6th man.
Most said I was crazy ...
How's that looking tonight?
And you are damn right if I'm a championship level team I'm not paying max money to a expensive liability
Smart and Bradley are both 20+ mil players in today's NBA. Even Turner gets 4 years 75, Chandler Parsons gets the max. Stick to fantasy hoops.
I absolutely realize that teams overpay for players ... I don't blame players for taking the money.
But if you are a team with aspirations of winning titles, you don't offer FS contracts.
And if you are a player with aspirations of winning titles, sometimes you have to make some financial sacrifices to ensure that you have the best squad around you at all times.
The cap isn't a factor when re-signing your own players. You just have to be ready to pay the luxury tax.
The area Isaiah would get immensely better at is playmaking, if he had the players around him. He can become a great passer. Right now, he doesn't. -
Wow? Really?RoadDawg55 said:
If Bost
Isaiah doesn't. They have cap room to sign a guy this offseason. Isaiah, Bradley, and Smart will all be free agents after next year. Thing is, Boston could re-sign all 3, although they won't.Tequilla said:
You're confusing shit here ...RoadDawg55 said:
That was my point. A lot of these teams have to basically throw outrageous money at guys like Smart because they have to sign someone to reach the salary floor. Don't be TequillaFS.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
NBA GMs are dumb and bad.RoadDawg55 said:
Lol I knew this was coming. When a 29% shooter from 3 goes 7-10 and LeBron takes the day off...Tequilla said:
And what I've been saying all year that I'd rather pay Bradley/Smart than IT max ...WilburHooksHands said:
Im saying your argument that IT shouldnt get max money becuase hes a defensive liability is FS.Tequilla said:
You're not seriously trying to compare IT to Curry are you?WilburHooksHands said:Saying IT needs to be the 4th best guy on his team to win is about as shitpost as it gets. Also Im glad GS will give max money to noted defensive stopper Steph Curry.
IT's skill level is more consistent with the 2nd or 3rd option ... his size makes him ideally suited to be a 6th man.
Most said I was crazy ...
How's that looking tonight?
And you are damn right if I'm a championship level team I'm not paying max money to a expensive liability
Smart and Bradley are both 20+ mil players in today's NBA. Even Turner gets 4 years 75, Chandler Parsons gets the max. Stick to fantasy hoops.
I absolutely realize that teams overpay for players ... I don't blame players for taking the money.
But if you are a team with aspirations of winning titles, you don't offer FS contracts.
And if you are a player with aspirations of winning titles, sometimes you have to make some financial sacrifices to ensure that you have the best squad around you at all times.
The cap isn't a factor when re-signing your own players. You just have to be ready to pay the luxury tax.
You really are a fucktarded twit. -
I'm not a cap guru, but how the fuck is Cleveland re-signing guys like Tristan Thompson and JR Smith to big contracts when they are already well above the salary cap?Tequilla said:
Wow? Really?RoadDawg55 said:
If Bost
Isaiah doesn't. They have cap room to sign a guy this offseason. Isaiah, Bradley, and Smart will all be free agents after next year. Thing is, Boston could re-sign all 3, although they won't.Tequilla said:
You're confusing shit here ...RoadDawg55 said:
That was my point. A lot of these teams have to basically throw outrageous money at guys like Smart because they have to sign someone to reach the salary floor. Don't be TequillaFS.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
NBA GMs are dumb and bad.RoadDawg55 said:
Lol I knew this was coming. When a 29% shooter from 3 goes 7-10 and LeBron takes the day off...Tequilla said:
And what I've been saying all year that I'd rather pay Bradley/Smart than IT max ...WilburHooksHands said:
Im saying your argument that IT shouldnt get max money becuase hes a defensive liability is FS.Tequilla said:
You're not seriously trying to compare IT to Curry are you?WilburHooksHands said:Saying IT needs to be the 4th best guy on his team to win is about as shitpost as it gets. Also Im glad GS will give max money to noted defensive stopper Steph Curry.
IT's skill level is more consistent with the 2nd or 3rd option ... his size makes him ideally suited to be a 6th man.
Most said I was crazy ...
How's that looking tonight?
And you are damn right if I'm a championship level team I'm not paying max money to a expensive liability
Smart and Bradley are both 20+ mil players in today's NBA. Even Turner gets 4 years 75, Chandler Parsons gets the max. Stick to fantasy hoops.
I absolutely realize that teams overpay for players ... I don't blame players for taking the money.
But if you are a team with aspirations of winning titles, you don't offer FS contracts.
And if you are a player with aspirations of winning titles, sometimes you have to make some financial sacrifices to ensure that you have the best squad around you at all times.
The cap isn't a factor when re-signing your own players. You just have to be ready to pay the luxury tax.
You really are a fucktarded twit. -
I know how the cap works you ignorant slut ...RoadDawg55 said:
I'm not a cap guru, but how the fuck is Cleveland re-signing guys like Tristan Thompson and JR Smith to big contracts when they are already well above the salary cap?Tequilla said:
Wow? Really?RoadDawg55 said:
If Bost
Isaiah doesn't. They have cap room to sign a guy this offseason. Isaiah, Bradley, and Smart will all be free agents after next year. Thing is, Boston could re-sign all 3, although they won't.Tequilla said:
You're confusing shit here ...RoadDawg55 said:
That was my point. A lot of these teams have to basically throw outrageous money at guys like Smart because they have to sign someone to reach the salary floor. Don't be TequillaFS.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
NBA GMs are dumb and bad.RoadDawg55 said:
Lol I knew this was coming. When a 29% shooter from 3 goes 7-10 and LeBron takes the day off...Tequilla said:
And what I've been saying all year that I'd rather pay Bradley/Smart than IT max ...WilburHooksHands said:
Im saying your argument that IT shouldnt get max money becuase hes a defensive liability is FS.Tequilla said:
You're not seriously trying to compare IT to Curry are you?WilburHooksHands said:Saying IT needs to be the 4th best guy on his team to win is about as shitpost as it gets. Also Im glad GS will give max money to noted defensive stopper Steph Curry.
IT's skill level is more consistent with the 2nd or 3rd option ... his size makes him ideally suited to be a 6th man.
Most said I was crazy ...
How's that looking tonight?
And you are damn right if I'm a championship level team I'm not paying max money to a expensive liability
Smart and Bradley are both 20+ mil players in today's NBA. Even Turner gets 4 years 75, Chandler Parsons gets the max. Stick to fantasy hoops.
I absolutely realize that teams overpay for players ... I don't blame players for taking the money.
But if you are a team with aspirations of winning titles, you don't offer FS contracts.
And if you are a player with aspirations of winning titles, sometimes you have to make some financial sacrifices to ensure that you have the best squad around you at all times.
The cap isn't a factor when re-signing your own players. You just have to be ready to pay the luxury tax.
You really are a fucktarded twit.
Part of Cleveland having LBJ is a willingness to venture into luxury tax territory ...
The other thing you get with the Cavs is the bitching during the year of not having any depth and the lack of youth/draft picks coming into the organization.
Got any additional knowledge to drop? -
I get about 2 sentences into Tequillas post before thinking "nah fuck it I'm not going to spend 15 minutes reading this".
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Tequilla said:
A max contract for IT I think is all dependent upon what Boston does in free agency and/or trade.
IF they take Fultz, then I just don't see how they can keep all 4 of Fultz, IT, Bradley, and Smart.
Smart and Bradley are high end defenders. Fultz will likely take 3-5 years to develop into an average defender at the NBA level as he's going to have a lot of bad habits coming from Romar. IT is a defensive liability. If you keep IT + Fultz, that means that you are moving one of Bradley and Smart. For a team that hangs their hat on defense, that's a tough pill to follow.
I believe the max contract levels that IT can sign for are in the 3/100 or 4/135 range. I'm thinking that Boston would maybe consider the 3/100 but the 4/135 is probably too much when you start factoring in other contracts including the rookie contracts that will be coming up with the #1 this year and high pick from Brooklyn next year. My guess is that the combined Bradley/Smart contracts would probably be in the 35-45M range. My personal thought is that Bradley's the one player that Boston's not going to allow to leave (if you look there's reporting coming from Jackie MacMullen that Boston was willing to move both IT and Smart last year for a lottery pick in last year's draft). So if you go both IT + Bradley, that's in the combined 50-60M range for contracts + Horford's max + whatever Boston does this year with their available cap space (which they will do something because the way the extension rules work for IT/Bradley the deals can't really be done this year until after the free agency period and only make sense for Boston to enter into IF they don't get somebody ... otherwise they are better off running through the favorable contracts this year and then utilizing Bird rights next year. Point being though is that with those contracts you are likely going to be entering into a significant luxury tax range and if so, I'm not sure that that's going to happen.
War and Peace is perhaps best known as one of the longest novels ever written.[citation needed]
Tequilla began writing War and Peace in the year that he finally married and settled down at his country estate. The first half of the book was written under the name "1805". During the writing of the second half, he read widely and acknowledged Schopenhauer as one of his main inspirations. However, Tequilla developed his own views of history and the role of the individual within it.[8]
The first draft of the novel was completed in 1863. In 1865, the periodical Russkiy Vestnik (The Russian Messenger) published the first part of this draft under the title 1805 and published more the following year. Tequilla was dissatisfied with this version, although he allowed several parts of it to be published with a different ending in 1867. He heavily rewrote the entire novel between 1866 and 1869.[5][8] Tequilla's wife, Sophia Tolstaya, copied as many as seven separate complete manuscripts before Tolstoy considered it again ready for publication.[8] The version that was published in Russkiy Vestnik had a very different ending from the version eventually published under the title War and Peace in 1869. Russians who had read the serialized version were anxious to buy the complete novel, and it sold out almost immediately. The novel was translated almost immediately after publication into many other languages.[citation needed]
It is unknown why Tequilla changed the name to War and Peace. He may have borrowed the title from the 1861 work of Pierre-Joseph Proudhon: La Guerre et la Paix ("The War and the Peace" in French).[4] The title may also be another reference to Titus, described as being a master of "war and peace" in The Twelve Caesars, written by Suetonius in 119 CE. The completed novel was then called Voyna i mir (Война и мир in new-style orthography; in English War and Peace).[citation needed]
The 1805 manuscript was re-edited and annotated in Russia in 1983 and since has been translated into English, German, French, Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Finnish, Albanian, Korean, and Czech. The existence of so many versions make this work one of the best insights into the mental processes of a great novelist.[citation needed]
Tequilla was instrumental in bringing a new kind of consciousness to the novel. His narrative structure is noted for its "god-like" ability to hover over and within events, but also in the way it swiftly and seamlessly portrayed a particular character's point of view. His use of visual detail is often cinematic in scope, using the literary equivalents of panning, wide shots and close-ups. These devices, while not exclusive to Tequilla, are part of the new style of the novel that arose in the mid-19th century and of which Tequilla proved himself a master.[9]
The standard Russian text of War and Peace is divided into four books (comprising fifteen parts) and an epilogue in two parts. Roughly the first half is concerned strictly with the fictional characters, whereas the latter parts, as well as the second part of the epilogue, increasingly consist of essays about the nature of war, power, history, and historiography. To interspersed these essays into the story in a way that defies previous fictional convention. Certain abridged versions remove these essays entirely, while others, published even during Tequilla's life, simply moved these essays into an appendix.[citation needed] -
So I was right?Tequilla said:
I know how the cap works you ignorant slut ...RoadDawg55 said:
I'm not a cap guru, but how the fuck is Cleveland re-signing guys like Tristan Thompson and JR Smith to big contracts when they are already well above the salary cap?Tequilla said:
Wow? Really?RoadDawg55 said:
If Bost
Isaiah doesn't. They have cap room to sign a guy this offseason. Isaiah, Bradley, and Smart will all be free agents after next year. Thing is, Boston could re-sign all 3, although they won't.Tequilla said:
You're confusing shit here ...RoadDawg55 said:
That was my point. A lot of these teams have to basically throw outrageous money at guys like Smart because they have to sign someone to reach the salary floor. Don't be TequillaFS.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
NBA GMs are dumb and bad.RoadDawg55 said:
Lol I knew this was coming. When a 29% shooter from 3 goes 7-10 and LeBron takes the day off...Tequilla said:
And what I've been saying all year that I'd rather pay Bradley/Smart than IT max ...WilburHooksHands said:
Im saying your argument that IT shouldnt get max money becuase hes a defensive liability is FS.Tequilla said:
You're not seriously trying to compare IT to Curry are you?WilburHooksHands said:Saying IT needs to be the 4th best guy on his team to win is about as shitpost as it gets. Also Im glad GS will give max money to noted defensive stopper Steph Curry.
IT's skill level is more consistent with the 2nd or 3rd option ... his size makes him ideally suited to be a 6th man.
Most said I was crazy ...
How's that looking tonight?
And you are damn right if I'm a championship level team I'm not paying max money to a expensive liability
Smart and Bradley are both 20+ mil players in today's NBA. Even Turner gets 4 years 75, Chandler Parsons gets the max. Stick to fantasy hoops.
I absolutely realize that teams overpay for players ... I don't blame players for taking the money.
But if you are a team with aspirations of winning titles, you don't offer FS contracts.
And if you are a player with aspirations of winning titles, sometimes you have to make some financial sacrifices to ensure that you have the best squad around you at all times.
The cap isn't a factor when re-signing your own players. You just have to be ready to pay the luxury tax.
You really are a fucktarded twit.
Part of Cleveland having LBJ is a willingness to venture into luxury tax territory ...
The other thing you get with the Cavs is the bitching during the year of not having any depth and the lack of youth/draft picks coming into the organization.
Got any additional knowledge to drop?
