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CuntWaffle
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I thought Celtics could push the series to 6 but this is probably over at 4
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This was always going to be a blowout. LeBron on huge rest is unstoppable.CuntWaffle said:I thought Celtics could push the series to 6 but this is probably over at 4
Celts take game two. Cavs win 3 and 4. Cs salvage 5. Cavs in a rout in game six. -
Boston looks rusty
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If "take game two" is code for "get swept in four games", then your post is 100 percent correct.dnc said:
This was always going to be a blowout. LeBron on huge rest is unstoppable.CuntWaffle said:I thought Celtics could push the series to 6 but this is probably over at 4
Celts take game two. Cavs win 3 and 4. Cs salvage 5. Cavs in a rout in game six.
Long live the King. -
We'll see.RavennaDawg said:
If "take game two" is code for "get swept in four games", then your post is 100 percent correct.dnc said:
This was always going to be a blowout. LeBron on huge rest is unstoppable.CuntWaffle said:I thought Celtics could push the series to 6 but this is probably over at 4
Celts take game two. Cavs win 3 and 4. Cs salvage 5. Cavs in a rout in game six.
Long live the King.
If the Cavs win game two, you're right. -
Now that tonight's game is over, any more Southaven stories?
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Nope, it's a pretty quiet place most of the tim. How's Taco Del Mar?RavennaDawg said:Now that tonight's game is over, any more Southaven stories?
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Cavs were playing great defense, but Boston was ice cold and looked tired. I still think Boston has enough pride to make this a somewhat competitive series.RaceBannon said:Boston looks rusty
Stevens is a good coach who makes needed adjustments. Boston has some tough guys like Crowder, Bradley, and Smart. Isaiah will have at least one huge game. -
I'm back in the 206. The city that everyone on this bored apparently hates.dnc said:
Nope, it's a pretty quiet place most of the tim. How's Taco Del Mar?RavennaDawg said:Now that tonight's game is over, any more Southaven stories?
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RIP Lemon Party Specialdnc said:
Nope, it's a pretty quiet place most of the tim. How's Taco Del Mar?RavennaDawg said:Now that tonight's game is over, any more Southaven stories?
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No apparently about it.RavennaDawg said:
I'm back in the 206. The city that everyone on this bored apparently hates.dnc said:
Nope, it's a pretty quiet place most of the tim. How's Taco Del Mar?RavennaDawg said:Now that tonight's game is over, any more Southaven stories?
And don't limit it to 'everyone on this board'. There are aborigines without internet access who hate Seattle just as much, I'm sure.
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I think you're supposed to have a love hate relationship with your roots - your family, your city, your schools, etc. If I didn't love Seattle I wouldn't still be obsessed with it's college football team after all it's put me through. Which is of course another reason I hate Seattle.RavennaDawg said:
I'm back in the 206. The city that everyone on this bored apparently hates.dnc said:
Nope, it's a pretty quiet place most of the tim. How's Taco Del Mar?RavennaDawg said:Now that tonight's game is over, any more Southaven stories?
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I'm glad I'm from Merced Island so I can hate Seattle without mixed feelings.
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*Mercerallpurpleallgold said:I'm glad I'm from Merced Island so I can hate Seattle without mixed feelings.
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Merced is a home to University of California, Merced. Current recreational opportunities in the city include Applegate Park and zoo, Bear and Black Rascal Creeks and their bike trails, a skate park located in Applegate, a live stage theater downtown, two first run movie theaters, The Mainzer Theater which is known for its historic and architectural value, County Courthouse Museum circa 1889, the Merced Multicultural Arts Center and the County Library. Though still growing, Merced has several shopping areas including the Merced Mall, anchored by Target, Sears, JCPenney and Kohl's, a strip mall located on the city's northwest side which includes Best Buy, Barnes & Noble, Lowe's, Wal-Mart, and several restaurants. Merced's Main Street contains several restaurants, a movie theater, and other assorted shops.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
*Mercerallpurpleallgold said:I'm glad I'm from Merced Island so I can hate Seattle without mixed feelings.
Also within a short distance from the city limits are the Castle Air Museum, Lake Yosemite, and Merced Falls. Merced is also the headquarters of Malibu Boats, a manufacturer of inboard boats. The city of Merced along with its surrounding cities are serviced by the Merced Sun-Star and the Merced County Times. The Sun-Star daily newspaper has a circulation of over 20,000 in the Merced area and the Times weekly newspaper has a circulation of over 5,000.
Main Street in Merced California
Homes at the median level in Merced have lost 62% of their value from the second quarter of 2006, when they peaked at $336,743, the biggest drop anywhere in the country, according to data provided to Forbes by Local Market Monitor, a Cary, North-Carolina-based real-estate research firm. Earlier, home building and buying grew exponentially in Merced, but the metro still suffers from an elevated 14.2% unemployment rate (Dec 2013)[10] according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
During the Great Recession Merced suffered one of the greatest property price collapses in the country and house prices at the end of 2009 had returned to 1998 levels, according to Zillow, making housing affordable compared to many other California locations. Merced's population has grown faster than the state average since 1980. Over the past nine years, the annualized growth rate is about 3.4%. This rapid expansion of population has stimulated significant retail growth since 1992. Several major retail chain stores have entered Merced, adding over 750,000 square feet (70,000 m2) of new retail space in that time and increasing the City's sales tax receipts by over $500,000 annually.
The economy has traditionally relied upon agribusiness and upon the presence of Castle Air Force Base. Over the past twenty years, more diversified industry has entered the area, including printing, fiberglass boat building, warehousing and distribution, and packaging industries.
In September 1995, Castle Air Force Base closed after phasing down over the previous three years. This has affected residential real estate and some sectors of the retail and service economies, but overall retail has continued to increase. No significant increase in unemployment has been noted. Re-use of the former base is actively proceeding. Industrial development is increasing in the area.
Since 1992, more than 400,000 square feet (37,000 m2) of new industrial activity has started. In May 1995, Merced was selected as the home of the next University of California campus. UC Merced opened with its first 1,000 students in September 2005. Local planning is underway to accommodate campus development, which will eventually accommodate about 25,000 students.
History[edit]
The first Merced post office opened in 1870.[11] Merced incorporated in 1889[11] and now operates under the Council-Manager form of government.
A plaque marking the site of the Merced Assembly Center.
During World War II, the Merced County fairgrounds was the site of a temporary "assembly center" where Japanese Americans were detained after being removed from their West Coast homes under Executive Order 9066. 4,669 men, women and children from central California (with most coming from Merced County) were confined in the Merced Assembly Center from May 6 to September 15, 1942, when they were transferred to the more permanent Granada internment camp in Colorado.[12]
Transportation[edit]
Major highways near Merced
Major highways[edit]
California 59.svg State Route 59
California 99.svg State Route 99
California 140.svg State Route 140
Air[edit]
Merced Regional Airport. Passenger service provided by Boutique Air.
Castle Airport in nearby Atwater, California.
Bus[edit]
Greyhound, Intercalifornias, TUFESA and Fronteras del Norte serve Merced.
YARTS provides scheduled service into Yosemite National Park.
Merced County Transit, "The Bus", operates both regularly scheduled fixed route bus service and Dial-A-Ride (demand response) transportation services throughout Merced County.
Cattracks is UC Merced's bus service, which connects students, staff and faculty at the university to off-campus apartments, the off-campus Castle facilities, local amenities, the Amtrak station, and the downtown area.
Rail[edit]
Amtrak San Joaquin provides passenger service.[13]
Map of proposed route, also including the proposed Desert Xpress to Las Vegas
California High-Speed Rail[edit]
Officials of the California High-Speed Rail Authority say a flat, straight stretch through the San Joaquin Valley connecting Merced and Bakersfield will likely be the first completed. Regional Manager Thomas Tracy told the Visalia City Council that the 800-mile (1,300 km) project will be built in eight phases. The first segment, due by 2015, would stretch from Bakersfield to Merced on an initial run from San Diego to Sacramento. At its full 220 mph speed, the normally three-hour car trip from Merced to Bakersfield would take 45 minutes.[citation needed]
Sample trips in the California High Speed rail would include:
Merced to Sacramento – 43 minutes
Merced to San Jose – 45 minutes
Merced to San Francisco – 1 hour and 15 minutes
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You try posting while speeding down I90 and doing blow off a hookers ass.
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Assault any Shadle Park cheerleaders lately?allpurpleallgold said:I'm glad I'm from Merced Island so I can hate Seattle without mixed feelings.
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Lebron wants to win in 16. This is pretty incredible.
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Just 20 more minutes before the mariners start. Not even Charles can keep me interested in this
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I took a lot of heat for saying that IT couldn't be the top player for an elite title contending team ... but he's getting abused on both ends of the court ...
The Celtics window is this year's #1 + next year's #1 + Bradley/Brown + Hayward + ???
If you are Danny Ainge right now there's no way you can pay IT the max ... it'd be a terrible contract -
You're a fucking idiot. Guys who are top 20 players are max contract guys.Tequilla said:I took a lot of heat for saying that IT couldn't be the top player for an elite title contending team ... but he's getting abused on both ends of the court ...
The Celtics window is this year's #1 + next year's #1 + Bradley/Brown + Hayward + ???
If you are Danny Ainge right now there's no way you can pay IT the max ... it'd be a terrible contract
Guys who finish at the top of the scoring charts are max contract guys.
Guys who lead their team to #1 seeds are max contract guys. -
I know this is hard for you ...RoadDawg55 said:
You're a fucking idiot. Guys who are top 20 players are max contract guys.Tequilla said:I took a lot of heat for saying that IT couldn't be the top player for an elite title contending team ... but he's getting abused on both ends of the court ...
The Celtics window is this year's #1 + next year's #1 + Bradley/Brown + Hayward + ???
If you are Danny Ainge right now there's no way you can pay IT the max ... it'd be a terrible contract
Guys who finish at the top of the scoring charts are max contract guys.
Guys who lead their team to #1 seeds are max contract guys.
But what's a Top 20 player?
Stats wise, IT is a top 20 player.
But if we're judging by building a championship contending team, can you really make the argument that he's a Top 20 player?
If it isn't ridiculously apparent by now, you can make IT a liability on the defensive end of the court (too short) and offensively if you can defend him with size while staying in front of him.
Against the majority of the league, they can't put guys on him that mess him up with size while being able to stay in front of him. Against elite teams though, they can do so. -
He can't win a title if he's the best player on a team. But how many guys are there in the NBA who can? James and Curry for sure. Beyond that Kawhi and Durant are the only two I'd say with any confidence. Maybe Westbrook. Maybe Harden. Maybe Davis or Towns or Giannis eventually.Tequilla said:
I know this is hard for you ...RoadDawg55 said:
You're a fucking idiot. Guys who are top 20 players are max contract guys.Tequilla said:I took a lot of heat for saying that IT couldn't be the top player for an elite title contending team ... but he's getting abused on both ends of the court ...
The Celtics window is this year's #1 + next year's #1 + Bradley/Brown + Hayward + ???
If you are Danny Ainge right now there's no way you can pay IT the max ... it'd be a terrible contract
Guys who finish at the top of the scoring charts are max contract guys.
Guys who lead their team to #1 seeds are max contract guys.
But what's a Top 20 player?
Stats wise, IT is a top 20 player.
But if we're judging by building a championship contending team, can you really make the argument that he's a Top 20 player?
If it isn't ridiculously apparent by now, you can make IT a liability on the defensive end of the court (too short) and offensively if you can defend him with size while staying in front of him.
Against the majority of the league, they can't put guys on him that mess him up with size while being able to stay in front of him. Against elite teams though, they can do so.
IT is absolutely a guy you can win with if he's the 2nd best guy on your team. Which makes him a max guy. -
I totally disagree ...
You can win with him if he's your 6th man off the bench ... but I don't think his skill set works well as the 2nd or 3rd option in a starting rotation. -
You actually posted that you can make him a liability on offense? Before this series nobody has been able to stop him.Tequilla said:
I know this is hard for you ...RoadDawg55 said:
You're a fucking idiot. Guys who are top 20 players are max contract guys.Tequilla said:I took a lot of heat for saying that IT couldn't be the top player for an elite title contending team ... but he's getting abused on both ends of the court ...
The Celtics window is this year's #1 + next year's #1 + Bradley/Brown + Hayward + ???
If you are Danny Ainge right now there's no way you can pay IT the max ... it'd be a terrible contract
Guys who finish at the top of the scoring charts are max contract guys.
Guys who lead their team to #1 seeds are max contract guys.
But what's a Top 20 player?
Stats wise, IT is a top 20 player.
But if we're judging by building a championship contending team, can you really make the argument that he's a Top 20 player?
If it isn't ridiculously apparent by now, you can make IT a liability on the defensive end of the court (too short) and offensively if you can defend him with size while staying in front of him.
Against the majority of the league, they can't put guys on him that mess him up with size while being able to stay in front of him. Against elite teams though, they can do so.
I've seen Curry struggle before. Same for Kyrie Irving, Westbrook, etc. Players struggle sometimes. IT is hurt, and he's probably fucking exhausted.
Between your LeBron criticism and this, you're posting even dumber than you typically do every year it's playoff season. -
Boston won the one seed with him as the number one option. They are in the ECF with him as the number one option. There's no fucking way that makes him a sixth man on a title team.Tequilla said:I totally disagree ...
You can win with him if he's your 6th man off the bench ... but I don't think his skill set works well as the 2nd or 3rd option in a starting rotation.
Seriously dude this might be the worst post I've ever seen on the hoops bored. -
The Celtics won what? 53 games?
That might be the 1 seed this year in the East but that's good for most years a 3 or 4 seed at best.
Offensively, what I meant is that you are starting to see teams try to put a wall around him taking away his shot and then his passing angles.
Teams defend differently in the playoffs versus the regular season ... this is well known.
And IT is a guy that needs to run screen and roll on offense to be effective ... that requires the ball being in his hand. That's better utilized IMO coming off the bench as a 6th man on a really good team.
The fact you disagree with me and think what I'm saying is stupid only further convinces me that the vast majority of hoops observers chase stats as their proof ... stats in hoops only matter so much -
Jesus Christ. Boston would be dreck without IT. They can't score. They can't defend Lebron, same as everyone else.
Fucking speed limit IQ basketball takes. -
Without IT and a reasonable PG replacement they are probably a 45 win team ...haie said:Jesus Christ. Boston would be dreck without IT. They can't score. They can't defend Lebron, same as everyone else.
Fucking speed limit IQ basketball takes.
The only reason they are even in the discussion as a fringe NBA contender and #1 seed in the East right now is that the dominance in the league is consolidated with the Warriors, the Spurs (Leonard), and the Cavs (when LBJ is engaged).
What they are is at, or near the top, of the next level of teams that are pretty good but will never win a NBA title as currently constructed. They are probably similar to the early 2000's Nets teams that were the best of a really bad East and fodder in the NBA Finals or the early to mid 80's Bucks teams that were very good but never elite.
I'm going to be very interested in the offseason and see what Boston does. IF they thought that this was really their window they would have made a move at the deadline for this year's likely #1. -
It's not just about stats, although again, guys that average 29 on 53 win teams are max contract players. I doubt there has ever been a player that scored 53 in a second round playoff game that didn't at same point have a max contract.Tequilla said:The Celtics won what? 53 games?
That might be the 1 seed this year in the East but that's good for most years a 3 or 4 seed at best.
Offensively, what I meant is that you are starting to see teams try to put a wall around him taking away his shot and then his passing angles.
Teams defend differently in the playoffs versus the regular season ... this is well known.
And IT is a guy that needs to run screen and roll on offense to be effective ... that requires the ball being in his hand. That's better utilized IMO coming off the bench as a 6th man on a really good team.
The fact you disagree with me and think what I'm saying is stupid only further convinces me that the vast majority of hoops observers chase stats as their proof ... stats in hoops only matter so much
IT is a leader. Listen to the way Brad Stevens, Ainge, and his teammates talk about him.
He's played two shitty games against a team that has a guy playing at a historically high level. He's also hurt and has been through the fucking ringer this postseason yet is still in the ECF. Get a grip. -
They're the #1 seed because they have decent coaching, depth, and defense, and an absolute big baller brand that carries their offense.Tequilla said:
Without IT and a reasonable PG replacement they are probably a 45 win team ...haie said:Jesus Christ. Boston would be dreck without IT. They can't score. They can't defend Lebron, same as everyone else.
Fucking speed limit IQ basketball takes.
The only reason they are even in the discussion as a fringe NBA contender and #1 seed in the East right now is that the dominance in the league is consolidated with the Warriors, the Spurs (Leonard), and the Cavs (when LBJ is engaged).
What they are is at, or near the top, of the next level of teams that are pretty good but will never win a NBA title as currently constructed. They are probably similar to the early 2000's Nets teams that were the best of a really bad East and fodder in the NBA Finals or the early to mid 80's Bucks teams that were very good but never elite.
I'm going to be very interested in the offseason and see what Boston does. IF they thought that this was really their window they would have made a move at the deadline for this year's likely #1.
I agree with you in that they're aware it's still a flawed roster, without even bringing in GS and CLE into the discussion. They've could have traded for an elite shooter like CJ McCollum, but they'd still need more firepower to be a contender, period.
None of that is IT's fault, and you can certainly build around him. Tons of speed, grit, scoring. But their roster is far too incomplete at this point.
