Recruiting grad transfers: it's hard

DerekJohnson

thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/huskies-insider-blog/article150538217.html

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

Thanks Taft!

dnc

Chinned for editing the title for once.

Taft 2.1.

whlinder

The move to Khaleesi did wonders for the content title editing.

HUSKYFANATIC

You said "it's hard"

Saracen

The difficulties in taking on a grad transfer, along with the obstacles for getting JUCO players (due to no PE or similar majors) would definitely seem to be way more of a challenge for Hopkins than Petersen.

And it's not something that will changed any time soon.

Edwin_Bambino

Anyone more in the know than myself care to shed any light on the apparel deal Caple mentioned near the end of the article? Is UW considering leaving Nike?

FireCohen

Edwin_Bambino said:

Anyone more in the know than myself care to shed any light on the apparel deal Caple mentioned near the end of the article? Is UW considering leaving Nike?

I think addidas is trying to take a hard run at UW. Nike will probably match

CokeGreaterThanPepsi

WeakarmCobra said:

Edwin_Bambino said:

Anyone more in the know than myself care to shed any light on the apparel deal Caple mentioned near the end of the article? Is UW considering leaving Nike?

I think addidas is trying to take a hard run at UW. Nike will probably match

All three will make a run at it (Under Armour has been going hard after deals). I've heard Hopkins isn't tied to Nike, unlike Romar who wouldn't roll with anything but Nike. So that opens the possibility of going to another apparel deal.

We'll know more next summer when negotiations start. As I've said for awhile, UW getting good at football happened at the PERFECT time, because all three major companies are going to come hard after UW now.

WSU signed in summer of 2015 with Nike for around 3 million a year for 10 years, I expect UW to get at least 100 million over 10 years.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

WeakarmCobra said:

Edwin_Bambino said:

Anyone more in the know than myself care to shed any light on the apparel deal Caple mentioned near the end of the article? Is UW considering leaving Nike?

I think addidas is trying to take a hard run at UW. Nike will probably match

All three will make a run at it (Under Armour has been going hard after deals). I've heard Hopkins isn't tied to Nike, unlike Romar who wouldn't roll with anything but Nike. So that opens the possibility of going to another apparel deal.

We'll know more next summer when negotiations start. As I've said for awhile, UW getting good at football happened at the PERFECT time, because all three major companies are going to come hard after UW now.

WSU signed in summer of 2015 with Nike for around 3 million a year for 10 years, I expect UW to get at least 100 million over 10 years.

doogie

WeakarmCobra said:

Edwin_Bambino said:

Anyone more in the know than myself care to shed any light on the apparel deal Caple mentioned near the end of the article? Is UW considering leaving Nike?

I think addidas is trying to take a hard run at UW. Nike will probably match

Your saying the Nazi's are gonna make a hard run at Jen followed up by Nike? Hope she's prepared.

dnc

CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

WeakarmCobra said:

Edwin_Bambino said:

Anyone more in the know than myself care to shed any light on the apparel deal Caple mentioned near the end of the article? Is UW considering leaving Nike?

I think addidas is trying to take a hard run at UW. Nike will probably match

All three will make a run at it (Under Armour has been going hard after deals). I've heard Hopkins isn't tied to Nike, unlike Romar who wouldn't roll the ball out with anything but Nike. So that opens the possibility of going to another apparel deal.

We'll know more next summer when negotiations start. As I've said for awhile, UW getting good at football happened at the PERFECT time, because all three major companies are going to come hard after UW now.

WSU signed in summer of 2015 with Nike for around 3 million a year for 10 years, I expect UW to get at least 100 million over 10 years.

Obligatory crisping

doogie

I Finally read the link.

How fucking hard would it be to have a general studies grad program designed for athletes and others that starts them off taking general studies grad level courses then allows them to transfer into a program of choice the following year?

uzi

Saracen said:

The difficulties in taking on a grad transfer, along with the obstacles for getting JUCO players (due to no PE or similar majors) would definitely seem to be way more of a challenge for Hopkins than Petersen.

And it's not something that will changed any time soon.

How did Lambo get Corry Dillon in as a JUCO transfer?

I heard rumors that Dillon couldn't even read, and got a 0.0 GPA the one quarter he was enrolled at the UW, before declaring for the Pros.

That said, I'd love another RB like Dillon. Dude was a man among boys on the field.

Saracen

uzi said:

Saracen said:

The difficulties in taking on a grad transfer, along with the obstacles for getting JUCO players (due to no PE or similar majors) would definitely seem to be way more of a challenge for Hopkins than Petersen.

And it's not something that will changed any time soon.

How did Lambo get Corry Dillon in as a JUCO transfer?

I heard rumors that Dillon couldn't even read, and got a 0.0 GPA the one quarter he was enrolled at the UW, before declaring for the Pros.

That said, I'd love another RB like Dillon. Dude was a man among boys on the field.

It's not impossible, just more difficult at UW than at many other schools. Basically, there's no Physical Education major or equivalent at UW, so when transferring a) they only take a very minimal amount and b) they don't count in overall GPA. And most JUCO kids load up on PE classes for both credit total and GPA boost.

Not sure the details on Dillon, but both Garden City and Dixie (was JC then, now 4 year) are/were both powerhouses that have lots of experience with moving kids on to D1 schools. Not saying they're doing it right - don't twist - just that they probably were clever/shady enough to have passthrough, non-PE classes that would meet requirements. For those who went to UW in the James heydays it would be akin to a schedule with lots of classes like Geology 101, Psych 210, that independent Psych research class, and Swahili.

Nurple

Is the Jordan brand in consideration? May help considering kids can't enough Jordan shit at their disposal this coming from someone with 3 teens.

creepycoug

I freely admit I know next to nothing about this issue. I don't know the difference between a graduate transfer and some kid who's played one or two years of Juco. Is is that the kids have to complete their AAs at JUCO to xfer? If so, why? I get the PE credit issue ... that's somewhat unique to UW (as I recall even Cal accepts those credits). But I'm assuming that we'd? be after people who needed JUCO for whatever reason and played a season or two and now want to xfer to UW and bring whatever credits the school will allow. For gen pop, xfering from JUCO, even after a year, is the easiest way to get into UW. It goes from being a relative competitive thing to be super fucking easy. Test scores suddenly don't matter ... just get a decent GPA taking easy classes and you're in. I see kids do it all the time.

All I can do is shake my head when I see the following from the common data sets (the one place where the schools don't lie about their stats):

CLASS OF 2021
Profile of Students

GPA SAT ACT
UW W M ERW
Average 3.60 3.92 654 628 29
Low 1.20 2.26 200 200 17
High 4.00 5.00 800 780 35

So, bottom line, who do you think that 1.20 GPA is? You think it's the 150 lb. white kid from North Bend who can't Reed Strong?

So if regular recruiting can get a kid in the door with a 1.2 GPA and 200 math and reading SAT scores, if THAT's possible, then you'd think someone would walk up to the admin building and convince them it makes just as much sense to fix the transfer issue.

The problem is, this gets translated to the fans as a Stanford issue. Trust me: there is not one person, not one single athlete, at Stanford who scored a 200 on either section of the SAT or a 1.2 GPA. Not one. They would take a hard pass on Michael Jordan with those numbers.

Mad_Son

I'm hoping for Reebok

CokeGreaterThanPepsi

Mad_Son said:

I'm hoping for Reebok

Champion or GTFO

dnc

CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

Mad_Son said:

I'm hoping for Reebok

Champion or GTFO

I think TOMS would really make a statement.

This is WASHINGTON, dammit. We're against poverty and shit. That's more important than winning some silly sportsball games.

FremontTroll

The 1.2, 200, and 200 are three different kids.