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Hardcore Husky and TSIO Podcast Exclusive: UW Athletics FInancial Forecast for 2017

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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,063

    We'll find out if you guys have a great coach if you have staying power. If you go right back to being the coogs, well then....

    You just wrote that with a straight face?!?

    Oregon has a career assistant with a slightly better than .500 career record.

    Washington just played in the final four with one of the highest winning percentage coaches in the country.

    So tell me you're trying to whoosh everyone here?
    Oregon's had Chip Kelly, a duckade and several years of being a PAC 12 dynasty and two appearances in the natty within 4 years of each other. UW hasn't proven itself yet.
    Oregon's performance under Chip Kelly is irrelevant. He is no longer a variable in their future results.

    If he were to come back, that's a different conversation.

    But, as you can see, the UW now has the proven commodity. And Oregon has either the next Chip Kelly or the next Ty.

    And even @GrandpaSankey can see which is which.
    The proven commodity goes all the way to the natty and nothing less. Even better if its a win.
    Your circular logic just admitted Taggart is an unproven commodity.

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    We'll find out if you guys have a great coach if you have staying power. If you go right back to being the coogs, well then....

    You just wrote that with a straight face?!?

    Oregon has a career assistant with a slightly better than .500 career record.

    Washington just played in the final four with one of the highest winning percentage coaches in the country.

    So tell me you're trying to whoosh everyone here?
    Oregon's had Chip Kelly, a duckade and several years of being a PAC 12 dynasty and two appearances in the natty within 4 years of each other. UW hasn't proven itself yet.
    Oregon's performance under Chip Kelly is irrelevant. He is no longer a variable in their future results.

    If he were to come back, that's a different conversation.

    But, as you can see, the UW now has the proven commodity. And Oregon has either the next Chip Kelly or the next Ty.

    And even @GrandpaSankey can see which is which.
    The proven commodity goes all the way to the natty and nothing less. Even better if its a win.
    Why did Oregon fire its proven commodity then?
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646

    Is this a podcast?

    I fucking hate you.
  • 89ute
    89ute Member Posts: 2,485

    We'll find out if you guys have a great coach if you have staying power. If you go right back to being the coogs, well then....

    You just wrote that with a straight face?!?

    Oregon has a career assistant with a slightly better than .500 career record.

    Washington just played in the final four with one of the highest winning percentage coaches in the country.

    So tell me you're trying to whoosh everyone here?
    Oregon's had Chip Kelly, a duckade and several years of being a PAC 12 dynasty and two appearances in the natty within 4 years of each other. UW hasn't proven itself yet.
    So would you say Oregon more closely identifies with the Buffalo Bills or Minnesota Vikings?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club

    We'll find out if you guys have a great coach if you have staying power. If you go right back to being the coogs, well then....

    You just wrote that with a straight face?!?

    Oregon has a career assistant with a slightly better than .500 career record.

    Washington just played in the final four with one of the highest winning percentage coaches in the country.

    So tell me you're trying to whoosh everyone here?
    Oregon's had Chip Kelly, a duckade and several years of being a PAC 12 dynasty and two appearances in the natty within 4 years of each other. UW hasn't proven itself yet.
    Dominating like this in year 3 with recruiting going the way it is makes it a relatively safe bet. The next best coach is probabaly at Oregon State, the guy after him just got ass-rammed in Seattle and couldn't buy offense, the guy after him is trying to compete with Troy Williams, and the guys after him work in Pullman or has Ivan molding his players.

    If you want to rip on Pete, the way to do it is to point out how absolutely shit tier the rest of the coaching is in the PAC. I mean, in 2016 we still had holes all over the fucking roster, but won the conference rather easily. The holes won't be there going forward.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    haie said:

    We'll find out if you guys have a great coach if you have staying power. If you go right back to being the coogs, well then....

    You just wrote that with a straight face?!?

    Oregon has a career assistant with a slightly better than .500 career record.

    Washington just played in the final four with one of the highest winning percentage coaches in the country.

    So tell me you're trying to whoosh everyone here?
    Oregon's had Chip Kelly, a duckade and several years of being a PAC 12 dynasty and two appearances in the natty within 4 years of each other. UW hasn't proven itself yet.
    Dominating like this in year 3 with recruiting going the way it is makes it a relatively safe bet. The next best coach is probabaly at Oregon State, the guy after him just got ass-rammed in Seattle and couldn't buy offense, the guy after him is trying to compete with Troy Williams, and the guys after him work in Pullman or has Ivan molding his players.

    If you want to rip on Pete, the way to do it is to point out how absolutely shit tier the rest of the coaching is in the PAC. I mean, in 2016 we still had holes all over the fucking roster, but won the conference rather easily. The holes won't be there going forward.
    I like holes. I like to put things in them.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    TTJ said:

    Suggestion for future podcast discussion topic: The short- and long-term effects of turmoil at ESPN on stadium and payroll solvency at UW.

    #StadiumDefault

    Just saved you two hours.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    TTJ said:

    Suggestion for future podcast discussion topic: The short- and long-term effects of turmoil at ESPN on stadium and payroll solvency at UW.

    It will be interesting to see where rights packages go going forward ... they've obviously had explosive growth over the last 5-10 years. On one hand, you could argue that with pressure on subscription numbers and a changing landscape of how the public consumes media content, there would be a reduction in future rights packages. On the other hand, more and more content providers will be fighting over what content that they are providing and it's possible that you could see alternative partners enter the market.

    Big picture though, rights packages are at best 1/4 to 1/3 of our total athletic department revenue picture. Even if the rights packages go down, it's not going to go down substantially. What's more realistic to me is that they probably remain relatively flat and/or they start shifting more and more content to the P12 network which could get a bump IF they have subscription services available a la carte. The balance of our revenue will continue to come from tickets and donations ... which is really where the focus needs to be anyway.

    The other side of things is that the explosion of rights packages has also coincided with the explosion of coaching salaries. My guess is that the growth here starts to slow a bit in general around the country.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    its not a coincidence that we get a sloppy tits AD right when the pay-per-view era is starting...
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    This is the doogliest of doog threads.

    Browning. Acl. 7-5. Script.


  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club

    This is the doogliest of doog threads.

    Browning. Acl. 7-5. Script.


    With a loss to graham on the road.
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    Tequilla said:

    TTJ said:

    Suggestion for future podcast discussion topic: The short- and long-term effects of turmoil at ESPN on stadium and payroll solvency at UW.

    It will be interesting to see where rights packages go going forward ... they've obviously had explosive growth over the last 5-10 years. On one hand, you could argue that with pressure on subscription numbers and a changing landscape of how the public consumes media content, there would be a reduction in future rights packages. On the other hand, more and more content providers will be fighting over what content that they are providing and it's possible that you could see alternative partners enter the market.

    Big picture though, rights packages are at best 1/4 to 1/3 of our total athletic department revenue picture. Even if the rights packages go down, it's not going to go down substantially. What's more realistic to me is that they probably remain relatively flat and/or they start shifting more and more content to the P12 network which could get a bump IF they have subscription services available a la carte. The balance of our revenue will continue to come from tickets and donations ... which is really where the focus needs to be anyway.

    The other side of things is that the explosion of rights packages has also coincided with the explosion of coaching salaries. My guess is that the growth here starts to slow a bit in general around the country.
    So you're saying either way it will be interesting?
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    haie said:

    This is the doogliest of doog threads.

    Browning. Acl. 7-5. Script.


    With a loss to graham on the road.
    On the road?

    The fuck?

    What did I just plan an entire trip to seattle for
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    TTJ said:

    Suggestion for future podcast discussion topic: The short- and long-term effects of turmoil at ESPN on stadium and payroll solvency at UW.

    Extreme TBSing, like taking a look at the 2020 class, is more entertaining than budget bullshit. Are you an accountant?
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,270 Founders Club

    haie said:

    This is the doogliest of doog threads.

    Browning. Acl. 7-5. Script.


    With a loss to graham on the road.
    On the road?

    The fuck?

    What did I just plan an entire trip to seattle for
    A lemon party with Pumpy and one other bored member to be named later.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    CHRISTIAN CAPLE DIDNT CITE ME! Over a month late bitch!

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    CHRISTIAN CAPLE DIDNT CITE ME! Over a month late bitch!

    Not so Christian after all
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Factors in this rise are $2.8 million in additional Gaye revenue from football, and $150,000 from Women's Basketball.

    No one happier with this development than Dennis.
  • Woof
    Woof Member Posts: 770
    Quick update:



    So given we started with a base of 40,324 last year and the number quoted is a net gain, looks like this puts us around 45,700 season tickets on 8/1. There are usually some additional sales throughout the month, so we'll probably come in at the high end of Coker's prediction.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    How many student tickets are there, i.e. 45700 sold out of how many possible?
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    edited August 2017
    Woof said:

    Quick update:



    So given we started with a base of 40,324 last year and the number quoted is a net gain, looks like this puts us around 45,700 season tickets on 8/1. There are usually some additional sales throughout the month, so we'll probably come in at the high end of Coker's prediction.
    The 96% retention rate factors in here too, 96% of last years season ticket totals is 38,711 returning, then add the new season tickets (5,376) and UW is at 44,087 season tickets.

    Students are 8,000. Plus faculty, staff, etc. there are probably about 53,000 tickets accounted for so far.

    Mini plans went on sale a few weeks back too. Not sure how those are doing.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    Woof said:

    Quick update:



    So given we started with a base of 40,324 last year and the number quoted is a net gain, looks like this puts us around 45,700 season tickets on 8/1. There are usually some additional sales throughout the month, so we'll probably come in at the high end of Coker's prediction.
    The 96% retention rate factors in here too, 96% of last years season ticket totals is 38,711 returning, then add the new season tickets (5,376) and UW is at 44,087 season tickets.

    Students are 8,000. Plus faculty, staff, etc. there are probably about 53,000 tickets accounted for so far.

    Mini plans went on sale a few weeks back too. Not sure how those are doing.
    I looked at single game tickets and there are significantly less seats available than there were last year, especially for the shit OOC games. Though part of that could be due to the ticket office holding back availability until they give up on season ticket sales.

    We averaged 64,589 a game last year. With a better home schedule I'd be surprised if that was less than 67,000 this year.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Woof said:

    Quick update:



    So given we started with a base of 40,324 last year and the number quoted is a net gain, looks like this puts us around 45,700 season tickets on 8/1. There are usually some additional sales throughout the month, so we'll probably come in at the high end of Coker's prediction.
    Our fans love shitty opponents.