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I have to admit, I was a little worried went it got to 66-60. Oregon absolutely did stop moving in their motion offense, and played not to lose offensively for the last 8 minutes of the game. Dorsey bailed them out with a three and so did Brooks only a couple minutes before that.YouKnowIt said:
Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for thatTequilla said:What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.
They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.
Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.
Tequilla mentioned something about UNC pushing tempo? WTF? Outside of South Carolina, UNC has the worst guard play left in the tournament. They do have the size advantage in the frontcourt, but Oregon has a huge advantage in the backcourt. If any team is going to push the tempo, it's going to be Oregon. They have the superior speed and conditioning. But if Bell gets into foul trouble, Oregon's screwed. Either way, I think UNC wins a very close game, but wouldn't be surprised if Oregon somehow found a way. -
Oregon went into the last 5 minute offense that they tried at UCLA when they lost the game ...YouKnowIt said:
Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for thatTequilla said:What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.
They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.
Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.
Kansas is explosive enough to have caused some problems there ... UCLA obviously was. Most teams aren't.
But your point about how close Oregon came on one hand to blowing it also shows the margin for error they had in that all it took was one good bounce rebound and one last second shot against the shot clock buzzer to put the game away.
Personally, I fall into the camp of spread the defense out, work clock, but look for layups and easy shots against the defense with the extra space kind of offense ... don't change per se what got you the lead. But at the same time, if you are a good defensive team and can take care of the ball, there's nothing wrong with working clock. The mistake that Oregon gets into at times is that they focus too much on working clock versus getting a bucket ... the killer to the opposition there is working clock AND getting a bucket. -
Why is it bullshit?PurpleThrobber said:
You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.YouKnowIt said:
Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for thatTequilla said:What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.
They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.
Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.
UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.
Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...
If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix? -
I'd be waiting for the uproar if heaven forbid the final four was in Portland this year.Tequilla said:
Why is it bullshit?PurpleThrobber said:
You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.YouKnowIt said:
Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for thatTequilla said:What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.
They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.
Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.
UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.
Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...
If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix? -
If Portland had the West regional and Oregon was a 1 seed, I would have no problem with the Ducks going to Portland.greenblood said:
I'd be waiting for the uproar if heven forbid the final four was in Portland this year.Tequilla said:
Why is it bullshit?PurpleThrobber said:
You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.YouKnowIt said:
Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for thatTequilla said:What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.
They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.
Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.
UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.
Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...
If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
The Northwest doesn't have a building capable of holding the Final Four. -
Good point on the capacity. I forgot most final four tournaments are held at football stadium domes. I guess Seattle would have been a likely location if centurylink had a retractable roof.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If Portland had the West regional and Oregon was a 1 seed, I would have no problem with the Ducks going to Portland.greenblood said:
I'd be waiting for the uproar if heven forbid the final four was in Portland this year.Tequilla said:
Why is it bullshit?PurpleThrobber said:
You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.YouKnowIt said:
Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for thatTequilla said:What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.
They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.
Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.
UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.
Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...
If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
The Northwest doesn't have a building capable of holding the Final Four. -
Seattle would never be an option with a retractable roof because the game time temperature would likely be in the 40sgreenblood said:
Good point on the capacity. I forgot most final four tournaments are held at football stadium domes. I guess Seattle would have been a likely location if centurylink had a retractable roof.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If Portland had the West regional and Oregon was a 1 seed, I would have no problem with the Ducks going to Portland.greenblood said:
I'd be waiting for the uproar if heven forbid the final four was in Portland this year.Tequilla said:
Why is it bullshit?PurpleThrobber said:
You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.YouKnowIt said:
Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for thatTequilla said:What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.
They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.
Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.
UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.
Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...
If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
The Northwest doesn't have a building capable of holding the Final Four. -
I would not have a problem with either of those two scenarios.Tequilla said:
Why is it bullshit?PurpleThrobber said:
You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.YouKnowIt said:
Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for thatTequilla said:What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.
They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.
Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.
UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.
Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...
If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
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Have WSU be the host. Bull Moose would put off enough hot air to warm that place right up.Tequilla said:
Seattle would never be an option with a retractable roof because the game time temperature would likely be in the 40sgreenblood said:
Good point on the capacity. I forgot most final four tournaments are held at football stadium domes. I guess Seattle would have been a likely location if centurylink had a retractable roof.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If Portland had the West regional and Oregon was a 1 seed, I would have no problem with the Ducks going to Portland.greenblood said:
I'd be waiting for the uproar if heven forbid the final four was in Portland this year.Tequilla said:
Why is it bullshit?PurpleThrobber said:
You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.YouKnowIt said:
Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for thatTequilla said:What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.
They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.
Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.
UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.
Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...
If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
The Northwest doesn't have a building capable of holding the Final Four.
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You probably also like the Prevent Defense....Tequilla said:
Oregon went into the last 5 minute offense that they tried at UCLA when they lost the game ...YouKnowIt said:
Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for thatTequilla said:What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.
They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.
Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.
Kansas is explosive enough to have caused some problems there ... UCLA obviously was. Most teams aren't.
But your point about how close Oregon came on one hand to blowing it also shows the margin for error they had in that all it took was one good bounce rebound and one last second shot against the shot clock buzzer to put the game away.
Personally, I fall into the camp of spread the defense out, work clock, but look for layups and easy shots against the defense with the extra space kind of offense ... don't change per se what got you the lead. But at the same time, if you are a good defensive team and can take care of the ball, there's nothing wrong with working clock. The mistake that Oregon gets into at times is that they focus too much on working clock versus getting a bucket ... the killer to the opposition there is working clock AND getting a bucket.
Personally I think the Great Altman, should have said to his boys keep running the offense...don't take a contested early shot, get the shot we want...if thats an open 3 as time expires so be it .... However Oregon just dribbled around looked confused and then threw up bad shots.
