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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,279
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    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    I have to admit, I was a little worried went it got to 66-60. Oregon absolutely did stop moving in their motion offense, and played not to lose offensively for the last 8 minutes of the game. Dorsey bailed them out with a three and so did Brooks only a couple minutes before that.

    Tequilla mentioned something about UNC pushing tempo? WTF? Outside of South Carolina, UNC has the worst guard play left in the tournament. They do have the size advantage in the frontcourt, but Oregon has a huge advantage in the backcourt. If any team is going to push the tempo, it's going to be Oregon. They have the superior speed and conditioning. But if Bell gets into foul trouble, Oregon's screwed. Either way, I think UNC wins a very close game, but wouldn't be surprised if Oregon somehow found a way.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    Oregon went into the last 5 minute offense that they tried at UCLA when they lost the game ...

    Kansas is explosive enough to have caused some problems there ... UCLA obviously was. Most teams aren't.

    But your point about how close Oregon came on one hand to blowing it also shows the margin for error they had in that all it took was one good bounce rebound and one last second shot against the shot clock buzzer to put the game away.

    Personally, I fall into the camp of spread the defense out, work clock, but look for layups and easy shots against the defense with the extra space kind of offense ... don't change per se what got you the lead. But at the same time, if you are a good defensive team and can take care of the ball, there's nothing wrong with working clock. The mistake that Oregon gets into at times is that they focus too much on working clock versus getting a bucket ... the killer to the opposition there is working clock AND getting a bucket.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.

    UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.

    Why is it bullshit?

    Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...

    If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,279
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    Tequilla said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.

    UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.

    Why is it bullshit?

    Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...

    If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
    I'd be waiting for the uproar if heaven forbid the final four was in Portland this year.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Tequilla said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.

    UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.

    Why is it bullshit?

    Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...

    If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
    I'd be waiting for the uproar if heven forbid the final four was in Portland this year.
    If Portland had the West regional and Oregon was a 1 seed, I would have no problem with the Ducks going to Portland.

    The Northwest doesn't have a building capable of holding the Final Four.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,279
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    Tequilla said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.

    UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.

    Why is it bullshit?

    Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...

    If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
    I'd be waiting for the uproar if heven forbid the final four was in Portland this year.
    If Portland had the West regional and Oregon was a 1 seed, I would have no problem with the Ducks going to Portland.

    The Northwest doesn't have a building capable of holding the Final Four.
    Good point on the capacity. I forgot most final four tournaments are held at football stadium domes. I guess Seattle would have been a likely location if centurylink had a retractable roof.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    Tequilla said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.

    UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.

    Why is it bullshit?

    Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...

    If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
    I'd be waiting for the uproar if heven forbid the final four was in Portland this year.
    If Portland had the West regional and Oregon was a 1 seed, I would have no problem with the Ducks going to Portland.

    The Northwest doesn't have a building capable of holding the Final Four.
    Good point on the capacity. I forgot most final four tournaments are held at football stadium domes. I guess Seattle would have been a likely location if centurylink had a retractable roof.
    Seattle would never be an option with a retractable roof because the game time temperature would likely be in the 40s
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    Tequilla said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.

    UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.

    Why is it bullshit?

    Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...

    If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
    I would not have a problem with either of those two scenarios.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,861
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.

    UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.

    Why is it bullshit?

    Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...

    If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
    I'd be waiting for the uproar if heven forbid the final four was in Portland this year.
    If Portland had the West regional and Oregon was a 1 seed, I would have no problem with the Ducks going to Portland.

    The Northwest doesn't have a building capable of holding the Final Four.
    Good point on the capacity. I forgot most final four tournaments are held at football stadium domes. I guess Seattle would have been a likely location if centurylink had a retractable roof.
    Seattle would never be an option with a retractable roof because the game time temperature would likely be in the 40s
    Have WSU be the host. Bull Moose would put off enough hot air to warm that place right up.

    #problemsolver
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    YouKnowItYouKnowIt Member Posts: 539
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    Tequilla said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    Oregon went into the last 5 minute offense that they tried at UCLA when they lost the game ...

    Kansas is explosive enough to have caused some problems there ... UCLA obviously was. Most teams aren't.

    But your point about how close Oregon came on one hand to blowing it also shows the margin for error they had in that all it took was one good bounce rebound and one last second shot against the shot clock buzzer to put the game away.

    Personally, I fall into the camp of spread the defense out, work clock, but look for layups and easy shots against the defense with the extra space kind of offense ... don't change per se what got you the lead. But at the same time, if you are a good defensive team and can take care of the ball, there's nothing wrong with working clock. The mistake that Oregon gets into at times is that they focus too much on working clock versus getting a bucket ... the killer to the opposition there is working clock AND getting a bucket.
    You probably also like the Prevent Defense....

    Personally I think the Great Altman, should have said to his boys keep running the offense...don't take a contested early shot, get the shot we want...if thats an open 3 as time expires so be it .... However Oregon just dribbled around looked confused and then threw up bad shots.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.

    UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.

    Why is it bullshit?

    Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...

    If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
    I'd be waiting for the uproar if heven forbid the final four was in Portland this year.
    If Portland had the West regional and Oregon was a 1 seed, I would have no problem with the Ducks going to Portland.

    The Northwest doesn't have a building capable of holding the Final Four.
    Good point on the capacity. I forgot most final four tournaments are held at football stadium domes. I guess Seattle would have been a likely location if centurylink had a retractable roof.
    Seattle would never be an option with a retractable roof because the game time temperature would likely be in the 40s
    The roof would be closed and the building would be heated, dumbfuck.
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    Oregon basically shut down the offense with 9 mins left. Should have kept attacking until the 4/5 minute mark (assuming they kept the double digit lead). Fortunately Dorsey hit some ridiculous threes at the end of the shot clock and Kansas couldn't hit shit.
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    I don't know where else to say this so I just wanted to let you all know, I really enjoy chris webber on commentary. He's hilarious.
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    Verne lundquist was also pretty great during the Florida cocks game. Can't recall if I've heard him on another basketball call before, but I enjoyed him.
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    You seem to overlooking the fact that UO was getting homered left and right. And every call went in KU's direction the last 20 minutes. Putting KU in the Kansas City pod in the first place is bullshit.

    UO won despite the odds. Give Altman some credit for getting his guys to believe they could overcome adversity and tough it out. Doogs should look to him as a barometer of what they should expect with Hopkins.

    Why is it bullshit?

    Lawrence is 45 minutes away from Kansas City ...

    If the West Regional was in Anaheim at the Honda Center, should UCLA be shipped out? What about Arizona in the West Finals if in Phoenix?
    I'd be waiting for the uproar if heven forbid the final four was in Portland this year.
    If Portland had the West regional and Oregon was a 1 seed, I would have no problem with the Ducks going to Portland.

    The Northwest doesn't have a building capable of holding the Final Four.
    Good point on the capacity. I forgot most final four tournaments are held at football stadium domes. I guess Seattle would have been a likely location if centurylink had a retractable roof.
    Seattle would never be an option with a retractable roof because the game time temperature would likely be in the 40s
    The roof would be closed and the building would be heated, dumbfuck.
    I laffed
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    phineas said:

    Verne lundquist was also pretty great during the Florida cocks game. Can't recall if I've heard him on another basketball call before, but I enjoyed him.

    He must have been so confused to see SEC East teams scoring points.
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    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    I have to admit, I was a little worried went it got to 66-60. Oregon absolutely did stop moving in their motion offense, and played not to lose offensively for the last 8 minutes of the game. Dorsey bailed them out with a three and so did Brooks only a couple minutes before that.

    Tequilla mentioned something about UNC pushing tempo? WTF? Outside of South Carolina, UNC has the worst guard play left in the tournament. They do have the size advantage in the frontcourt, but Oregon has a huge advantage in the backcourt. If any team is going to push the tempo, it's going to be Oregon. They have the superior speed and conditioning. But if Bell gets into foul trouble, Oregon's screwed. Either way, I think UNC wins a very close game, but wouldn't be surprised if Oregon somehow found a way.
    Hold up ... Carolina has the worst guard play left in the tournament? Barry's very underrated and Jackson is an All American.

    If you want to talk about depth then perhaps ...

    If you want to say that Pinson could be a liability (he's really just the glue guy for them) ... then ok ...

    But if you are saying that all 3 remaining teams have a better backcourt than Barry/Jackson you're fucking crazy ... they definitively outplayed Fox/Monk in the Regional Final
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    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    Tequilla said:

    What Doogs don't understand about coaching is that good coaching is getting the most out of the talent that you have ... Altman does a fantastic job of doing that.

    They do a lot of little things that don't really show up in a box score but definitely show up on the scoreboard when it comes to their ability to waste time in a possession by taking 5-7 seconds off for teams getting past half court and then the very loose but threatening half court trap ... before teams know it they are getting into their offensive sets with 15 seconds to go on the shot clock and it makes it significantly easier for Oregon to help, rotate, and play great team defense.

    Offensively, they do a great job of maximizing strength and probing to get good looks ... when the offense breaks down they have an identity at who is taking what shots and very rarely do you see them take really bad shots.

    Did you watch the UO v KU game? UOs offense went straight Toilet Bowl, and Altman didnt do anything about it ... if it wasn't for a last second heave that somehow hit the rim, then bounced to UO, and then finally hitting a last second 3 without any offense, no screens just a dude dirbbling.... the game might have changed... Altman deserves to get some shit for that
    Oregon went into the last 5 minute offense that they tried at UCLA when they lost the game ...

    Kansas is explosive enough to have caused some problems there ... UCLA obviously was. Most teams aren't.

    But your point about how close Oregon came on one hand to blowing it also shows the margin for error they had in that all it took was one good bounce rebound and one last second shot against the shot clock buzzer to put the game away.

    Personally, I fall into the camp of spread the defense out, work clock, but look for layups and easy shots against the defense with the extra space kind of offense ... don't change per se what got you the lead. But at the same time, if you are a good defensive team and can take care of the ball, there's nothing wrong with working clock. The mistake that Oregon gets into at times is that they focus too much on working clock versus getting a bucket ... the killer to the opposition there is working clock AND getting a bucket.
    You probably also like the Prevent Defense....

    Personally I think the Great Altman, should have said to his boys keep running the offense...don't take a contested early shot, get the shot we want...if thats an open 3 as time expires so be it .... However Oregon just dribbled around looked confused and then threw up bad shots.
    If run correctly the prevent defense is a great asset depending on the circumstances. The teams that just drop everybody 25 yards down the field and allow 15 yard completions without a problem and give up the 5 play 70 yard drive in 31 seconds ... that's shit.

    The reality is that everything comes down to execution regardless of what the plan is.
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