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Late term abortion bump
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The freedom idiots are going to save the aca after already saving social security
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Relax, Trump is just negotiating.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Late term abortion bump
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Completely deregulated the industry and then throw tax credits into it?
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Subsidizing insurance that doesn't actually cover anything isn't a good ideadoogie said:People will be free to select and pay for higher coverages.
Why are you so worried for others to make personal decisions regarding their own medical care?
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It is if you work for or invest in an insurance company.dhdawg said:
Subsidizing insurance that doesn't actually cover anything isn't a good ideadoogie said:People will be free to select and pay for higher coverages.
Why are you so worried for others to make personal decisions regarding their own medical care?
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This economy?HoustonHusky said:There is a whole lot a stupid in this discussion.
Simple math says you can't both cover the same amount of people and give people the option not to be forced to buy insurance. By definition, not forcing people to buy something will reduce the amount of people using it. And long term insurance rates do go down...the only way to get short-term rates to go down as people are not longer forced to buy insurance is to throw more money at the problem (which doesn't fix anything).
Its a stupid argument for the Republicans to get into though...they should just leave Obamacare alone and watch it go up in flames. As it is Obamacare is not sustainable, so comparing anything to someone projected wet dream of it is a exercise of mental masturbation. Cap spending on it (i.e. don't transfer money to the insurance companies)...Obama did most of the rest of killing it with the postponement of the Cadillac tax (2020 now?), hardship rules, etc. Hell...make it easier to get a waver on having to have it and it will really blow up. Give it a year or two pointing at it and the Dems as owning the monstrosity until everyone hates it and then offer up an alternative.
The only thing I can think of why they aren't doing this is that they are worried its going to hurt the overall economy.
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So you really think people are that stupid to have voted in republican majorities and than blame the democrats when the Republicans can't fix it.HoustonHusky said:
Premiums way up over estimations, number of insurers participating keep dropping each year, something like 17 of the 23 co-ops set up have already failed, most of the state exchanges are on life support with Federal grants (I think 5 have already closed), etc. etc. On top of that several of the subsidies expire this year, which will make it worse. It is a long laundry list.2001400ex said:
I just want you to explain the reasons why.RaceBannon said:Even the democrats know Obamacare is dead hondo. You can stop sucking Obama's dick now
As a result the number of people participating in the exchanges is WAY below projections (while Medicaid people are up...which is why Dems think it is a "success"). Close out the (illegal) gift payments Obama tried and did from the govt to the insurance companies and it will just accelerate the collapse.
Best thing Repubs could do is barely not pass a fix and the next day focus on taxes and start pointing each and every day at Democrats saying every single Democrat voted against a fix...repeat over and over that they passed the failing law and and they refused to fix it.
Worse thing they could do is force through a probable improvement that still isn't great and somehow then get blamed for it all.
Wow. The democrats voted against bill x that would have kicked 20 million off of insurance. What political suicide that is -
Who else is tired of all the winning?
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/325582-report-trump-regrets-backing-health-plan-before-pushing-for-tax-reform -
It's almost like these issues are complicated. You can't just personally pay some money to get your way.dhdawg said:Who else is tired of all the winning?
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/325582-report-trump-regrets-backing-health-plan-before-pushing-for-tax-reform -
Kansas is a collection of dumbfucks whether it is a Republican or Democratic admin. They are quite literally the biggest group of fucksticks I have ever encountered in my life. Fortunately, they are confined mostly to that state - though there is some leakout to Oklahoma, too.salemcoog said:
Let us all kneel in the direction of Mecca for Kansas.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Kansas is trying to recover from tremendous fiscal irresponsibility.HoustonHusky said:
Not really. Everyone likes free shit. Is Kansas raising $1.5-$2.0 billion in taxes to pay for the 152,000 additional people that went on Medicaid, or they just adding it to the national debt?BennyBeaver said:
Talk about hypocritical douchery.
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If you haven't noticed, there are fucksticks all over Congress too.PurpleThrobber said:
Kansas is a collection of dumbfucks whether it is a Republican or Democratic admin. They are quite literally the biggest group of fucksticks I have ever encountered in my life. Fortunately, they are confined mostly to that state - though there is some leakout to Oklahoma, too.salemcoog said:
Let us all kneel in the direction of Mecca for Kansas.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Kansas is trying to recover from tremendous fiscal irresponsibility.HoustonHusky said:
Not really. Everyone likes free shit. Is Kansas raising $1.5-$2.0 billion in taxes to pay for the 152,000 additional people that went on Medicaid, or they just adding it to the national debt?BennyBeaver said:
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Abundance, motherfucker.2001400ex said:
If you haven't noticed, there are fucksticks all over Congress too.PurpleThrobber said:
Kansas is a collection of dumbfucks whether it is a Republican or Democratic admin. They are quite literally the biggest group of fucksticks I have ever encountered in my life. Fortunately, they are confined mostly to that state - though there is some leakout to Oklahoma, too.salemcoog said:
Let us all kneel in the direction of Mecca for Kansas.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Kansas is trying to recover from tremendous fiscal irresponsibility.HoustonHusky said:
Not really. Everyone likes free shit. Is Kansas raising $1.5-$2.0 billion in taxes to pay for the 152,000 additional people that went on Medicaid, or they just adding it to the national debt?BennyBeaver said:
Talk about hypocritical douchery.
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Devin Nunes is losing at six-dimensional chess:
The chairman of the House intelligence committee has backed down from his dramatic assertion that Donald Trump and his aides were "monitored," by U.S. spies — a claim the Republicans have cited this week in emails to loyalists.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nunes-backs-down-assertion-trump-was-monitored-n738151
Rep. Devin Nunes told reporters Friday he can't be sure whether conversations among Trump or his aides were captured in the surveillance that has become a source of controversy since Nunes made it public in two news conferences this week.
"He said he'll have to get all the documents he requested from the (intelligence community) about this before he knows for sure," his spokesman, Jack Langer, said earlier. -
Nunes didn't back down from anything and Comey is in the Principals office as we sit.
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Nunes is in the principal's office if anything.doogie said:Nunes didn't back down from anything and Comey is in the Principals office as we sit.
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Take this shit to the Fire Comey thread where it belongs.GrundleStiltzkin said:
