Update for Race

TierbsHsotBoobs

"There is no three-phase process. There is no three-step plan. That is just political talk. It's just politicians engaging in spin," Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Arkansas, told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/20/politics/three-bucket-health-care/index.html

2001400ex

I wonder when a republican will stand up for their constituents and say they won't vote for a bill that reduces the number of insured people in their district.

2001400ex

What about the other promises to not reduce the number of insured.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer warned Republicans who oppose the proposed health care bill to expect to “pay a price at home” in the event the bill fails.

"I think there's going to be a price to be paid,” Spicer said to ABC News' Jon Karl at today's White House press briefing.

"The president was really clear. He laid it all on the lines for everybody. We made a promise ... if we keep our promise, people will reward us. If we don't keep our promise, it will be hard to manage this," House Speaker Paul Ryan said this morning.

https://gma.yahoo.com/republicans-vote-against-health-care-bill-could-pay-232504443--abc-news-topstories.html

dhdawg

He made a promise to cover everyone at a lower cost

RaceBannon

And?

AlCzervik

RaceBannon said:

And?

ThomasFremont

RaceBannon said:

And?

Trump specifically mentioned the words "cheaper" and "everyone"...the current proposal does the opposite.

Care to comment?

dhdawg

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

And?

Trump specifically mentioned the words "cheaper" and "everyone"...the current proposal does the opposite.

Care to comment?

trump is keeping all of his promises. everybody says so

2001400ex

dhdawg said:

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

And?

Trump specifically mentioned the words "cheaper" and "everyone"...the current proposal does the opposite.

Care to comment?

trump is keeping all of his promises. everybody says so

I heard he's doing exactly what he'd say he'd do.

Mosster47

dhdawg said:

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

And?

Trump specifically mentioned the words "cheaper" and "everyone"...the current proposal does the opposite.

Care to comment?

trump is keeping all of his promises. everybody says so

Obvious promise keeper is obvious.

RaceBannon

And?

AlCzervik

RaceBannon said:

And?

Jesus.

AZDuck

This is the biggest crock of shit I've ever read. Good Lord in the late 60's and 70's the butt hole was a fancy feast. Who is anybody to think butt fucking is on the upswing. Every couple, except More_cock and his wife, have made woopie in the butt Bob. People are people.

Cavemen and the bitches they drug into the caves were pioneering the buttsex and liking it. The ring sting is nothing new. Why does this new generation think they are new to everything. Get in the back of the fucking line with the bleeding rectum bitch. It's all been done before. Sheesh me and my buddies all put the poundin to the roundin back in the day. Some clean, some poopy, some bloody. But unlike the porns chick's don't choke on the red/brown cocksicle after the act. It's right to the sink for a wet rag and some soap and water.

HoustonHusky

There is a whole lot a stupid in this discussion.

Simple math says you can't both cover the same amount of people and give people the option not to be forced to buy insurance. By definition, not forcing people to buy something will reduce the amount of people using it. And long term insurance rates do go down...the only way to get short-term rates to go down as people are not longer forced to buy insurance is to throw more money at the problem (which doesn't fix anything).

Its a stupid argument for the Republicans to get into though...they should just leave Obamacare alone and watch it go up in flames. As it is Obamacare is not sustainable, so comparing anything to someone projected wet dream of it is a exercise of mental masturbation. Cap spending on it (i.e. don't transfer money to the insurance companies)...Obama did most of the rest of killing it with the postponement of the Cadillac tax (2020 now?), hardship rules, etc. Hell...make it easier to get a waver on having to have it and it will really blow up. Give it a year or two pointing at it and the Dems as owning the monstrosity until everyone hates it and then offer up an alternative.

The only thing I can think of why they aren't doing this is that they are worried its going to hurt the overall economy.

AlCzervik

HoustonHusky said:

There is a whole lot a stupid in this discussion.

Simple math says you can't both cover the same amount of people and give people the option not to be forced to buy insurance. By definition, not forcing people to buy something will reduce the amount of people using it. And long term insurance rates do go down...the only way to get short-term rates to go down as people are not longer forced to buy insurance is to throw more money at the problem (which doesn't fix anything).

Its a stupid argument for the Republicans to get into though...they should just leave Obamacare alone and watch it go up in flames. As it is Obamacare is not sustainable, so comparing anything to someone projected wet dream of it is a exercise of mental masturbation. Cap spending on it (i.e. don't transfer money to the insurance companies)...Obama did most of the rest of killing it with the postponement of the Cadillac tax (2020 now?), hardship rules, etc. Hell...make it easier to get a waver on having to have it and it will really blow up. Give it a year or two pointing at it and the Dems as owning the monstrosity until everyone hates it and then offer up an alternative.

The only thing I can think of why they aren't doing this is that they are worried its going to hurt the overall economy.

2001400ex

HoustonHusky said:

There is a whole lot a stupid in this discussion.

Simple math says you can't both cover the same amount of people and give people the option not to be forced to buy insurance. By definition, not forcing people to buy something will reduce the amount of people using it. And long term insurance rates do go down...the only way to get short-term rates to go down as people are not longer forced to buy insurance is to throw more money at the problem (which doesn't fix anything).

Its a stupid argument for the Republicans to get into though...they should just leave Obamacare alone and watch it go up in flames. As it is Obamacare is not sustainable, so comparing anything to someone projected wet dream of it is a exercise of mental masturbation. Cap spending on it (i.e. don't transfer money to the insurance companies)...Obama did most of the rest of killing it with the postponement of the Cadillac tax (2020 now?), hardship rules, etc. Hell...make it easier to get a waver on having to have it and it will really blow up. Give it a year or two pointing at it and the Dems as owning the monstrosity until everyone hates it and then offer up an alternative.

The only thing I can think of why they aren't doing this is that they are worried its going to hurt the overall economy.

I'm just glad you finally called Trump stupid.

UWhuskytskeet

HoustonHusky said:

There is a whole lot a stupid in this discussion.

Simple math says you can't both cover the same amount of people and give people the option not to be forced to buy insurance. By definition, not forcing people to buy something will reduce the amount of people using it. And long term insurance rates do go down...the only way to get short-term rates to go down as people are not longer forced to buy insurance is to throw more money at the problem (which doesn't fix anything).

Its a stupid argument for the Republicans to get into though...they should just leave Obamacare alone and watch it go up in flames. As it is Obamacare is not sustainable, so comparing anything to someone projected wet dream of it is a exercise of mental masturbation. Cap spending on it (i.e. don't transfer money to the insurance companies)...Obama did most of the rest of killing it with the postponement of the Cadillac tax (2020 now?), hardship rules, etc. Hell...make it easier to get a waver on having to have it and it will really blow up. Give it a year or two pointing at it and the Dems as owning the monstrosity until everyone hates it and then offer up an alternative.

The only thing I can think of why they aren't doing this is that they are worried its going to hurt the overall economy.

Oh, like 2012-2017?

doogie

2001400ex said:

I wonder when a republican will stand up for their constituents and say they won't vote for a bill that reduces the number of insured people in their district.

Conservatives want free market solutions focused on care of patient, not the insurance companies. Democrats like Obama, Ryan, Pelosi, and Schumer are focused on how the Government can control healthcare delivery via taxation and coverage mandates.

People know the difference.

2001400ex

HoustonHusky said:

There is a whole lot a stupid in this discussion.

Simple math says you can't both cover the same amount of people and give people the option not to be forced to buy insurance. By definition, not forcing people to buy something will reduce the amount of people using it. And long term insurance rates do go down...the only way to get short-term rates to go down as people are not longer forced to buy insurance is to throw more money at the problem (which doesn't fix anything).

Its a stupid argument for the Republicans to get into though...they should just leave Obamacare alone and watch it go up in flames. As it is Obamacare is not sustainable, so comparing anything to someone projected wet dream of it is a exercise of mental masturbation. Cap spending on it (i.e. don't transfer money to the insurance companies)...Obama did most of the rest of killing it with the postponement of the Cadillac tax (2020 now?), hardship rules, etc. Hell...make it easier to get a waver on having to have it and it will really blow up. Give it a year or two pointing at it and the Dems as owning the monstrosity until everyone hates it and then offer up an alternative.

The only thing I can think of why they aren't doing this is that they are worried its going to hurt the overall economy.

I want to hear your thoughts on why you think Obamacare is not sustainable.

doogie

simple maff

2001400ex

doogie said:

simple maff

I'm stupid so why don't you drop the equation here.