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Great separation of Church & State as always

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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    FFRF has symmetry at least.
    https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/28739-ffrf-uneasy-about-seattle-mayor-s-official-mosque-speech
    The Freedom From Religion Foundation is concerned that the Seattle mayor's upcoming State of the City address (on Feb. 21) is scheduled to be delivered in a mosque.

    In a letter to the mayor, FFRF Co-Presidents Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor commend Mayor Ed Murray's intention to stand against "state-sanctioned discrimination by the Trump administration," and agree with his characterization of the Muslim travel ban. FFRF is preparing an amicus brief against Trump's ban based on a religious test, and has publicly condemned it and urged its membership to oppose it.

    However, FFRF believes that "the city should not oppose one violation of the Establishment Clause by committing another." An official address at a religious venue sends a message of endorsement of that venue's beliefs. In this case, this incorporates the Idris Mosque's criteria for couples wishing to get married at the mosque, which include a refusal to marry Muslim women and non-Muslim men, approval of the marriage by the parties' fathers or recognized Muslim guardians, (a condition that "especially applies to the bride)" and an agreement on a dowry between the bride's guardian and the groom.

    "The Supreme Court has said time and again that the First Amendment 'mandates governmental neutrality between religion and religion, and between religion and nonreligion,'" Barker and Gaylor write to Murray. "Signaling endorsement of a religious group while acting as a state official is inappropriate and divisive."
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,621 Founders Club
    RedRocket said:

    I hate the mixing of religion and politics. Dont know what the point of this is besides showing that a gay man can go into a mosque without being being stoned to death.

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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,724 Founders Club
    Why is the progressive left such a bunch of apologists to the most illiberal of the three monotheistic faiths? For fucks sake, Ed, a majority of muslims in the world according to public opinion polling, would want to stone you to death. Give me a real, non pussy, liberal like Sam Harris who is consistent in thinking all theism is bullshit
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    Baphomet said:

    In this thread, a bunch of posters missing the point.

    Please. You have the conch. Speak your wisdom.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,621 Founders Club

    Baphomet said:

    In this thread, a bunch of posters missing the point.

    Please. You have the conch. Speak your wisdom.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,621 Founders Club

    Why is the progressive left such a bunch of apologists to the most illiberal of the three monotheistic faiths? For fucks sake, Ed, a majority of muslims in the world according to public opinion polling, would want to stone you to death. Give me a real, non pussy, liberal like Sam Harris who is consistent in thinking all theism is bullshit

    I've wondered myself why this is the hill the left has decided to die on. Its horrible bet.

    Europe is going to get their own "Trumps".

    Because it helps them IMO
    Great point Race
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    Baphomet said:

    In this thread, a bunch of posters missing the point.

    Please. You have the conch. Speak your wisdom.
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    Thud?

    Thud.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Who gives a fuck?

    the national prayer breakfast is still a thing.