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Great separation of Church & State as always

GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    I'm somewhat more liberal than they come and that's fucking ridiculous.
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    AlCzervikAlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774
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    Murray's a provocateur. As long as he doesn't endorse blowing little kids I like it.
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    AlCzervik said:

    Murray's a provocateur. As long as he doesn't endorse blowing little kids I like it.

    Would you be ok with the chinverse, SoC delivered from a cathedral?
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    AlCzervikAlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774
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    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    AlCzervik said:

    Murray's a provocateur. As long as he doesn't endorse blowing little kids I like it.

    Would you be ok with the chinverse, SoC delivered from a cathedral?
    I'm not OK with either. Murray will get noticed though.
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    RedRocketRedRocket Member Posts: 1,526
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    I hate the mixing of religion and politics. Dont know what the point of this is besides showing that a gay man can go into a mosque without being being stoned to death.
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    BaphometBaphomet Member Posts: 1,511
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    In this thread, a bunch of posters missing the point.
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,333
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    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    AlCzervik said:

    Murray's a provocateur. As long as he doesn't endorse blowing little kids I like it.

    Would you be ok with the chinverse, SoC delivered from a cathedral?
    Cathedral wouldn't be the inverse of a mosque.
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    BennyBeaver said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    AlCzervik said:

    Murray's a provocateur. As long as he doesn't endorse blowing little kids I like it.

    Would you be ok with the chinverse, SoC delivered from a cathedral?
    Cathedral wouldn't be the inverse of a mosque.
    True. That would be more like Republican mayor speaking from Baptist church.
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    FFRF has symmetry at least.
    https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/28739-ffrf-uneasy-about-seattle-mayor-s-official-mosque-speech
    The Freedom From Religion Foundation is concerned that the Seattle mayor's upcoming State of the City address (on Feb. 21) is scheduled to be delivered in a mosque.

    In a letter to the mayor, FFRF Co-Presidents Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor commend Mayor Ed Murray's intention to stand against "state-sanctioned discrimination by the Trump administration," and agree with his characterization of the Muslim travel ban. FFRF is preparing an amicus brief against Trump's ban based on a religious test, and has publicly condemned it and urged its membership to oppose it.

    However, FFRF believes that "the city should not oppose one violation of the Establishment Clause by committing another." An official address at a religious venue sends a message of endorsement of that venue's beliefs. In this case, this incorporates the Idris Mosque's criteria for couples wishing to get married at the mosque, which include a refusal to marry Muslim women and non-Muslim men, approval of the marriage by the parties' fathers or recognized Muslim guardians, (a condition that "especially applies to the bride)" and an agreement on a dowry between the bride's guardian and the groom.

    "The Supreme Court has said time and again that the First Amendment 'mandates governmental neutrality between religion and religion, and between religion and nonreligion,'" Barker and Gaylor write to Murray. "Signaling endorsement of a religious group while acting as a state official is inappropriate and divisive."
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,424
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    RedRocket said:

    I hate the mixing of religion and politics. Dont know what the point of this is besides showing that a gay man can go into a mosque without being being stoned to death.

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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,959
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    Why is the progressive left such a bunch of apologists to the most illiberal of the three monotheistic faiths? For fucks sake, Ed, a majority of muslims in the world according to public opinion polling, would want to stone you to death. Give me a real, non pussy, liberal like Sam Harris who is consistent in thinking all theism is bullshit
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,752
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    Baphomet said:

    In this thread, a bunch of posters missing the point.

    Please. You have the conch. Speak your wisdom.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,424
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    TurdBuffer said:

    Baphomet said:

    In this thread, a bunch of posters missing the point.

    Please. You have the conch. Speak your wisdom.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,424
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    RaceBannon said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Why is the progressive left such a bunch of apologists to the most illiberal of the three monotheistic faiths? For fucks sake, Ed, a majority of muslims in the world according to public opinion polling, would want to stone you to death. Give me a real, non pussy, liberal like Sam Harris who is consistent in thinking all theism is bullshit

    I've wondered myself why this is the hill the left has decided to die on. Its horrible bet.

    Europe is going to get their own "Trumps".

    Because it helps them IMO
    Great point Race
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,333
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    RaceBannon said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Baphomet said:

    In this thread, a bunch of posters missing the point.

    Please. You have the conch. Speak your wisdom.
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    Thud?

    Thud.
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    dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
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    Who gives a fuck?

    the national prayer breakfast is still a thing.
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