Fuller/McGrew
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I like how he tried to disguise it by making multiple posts.WeakarmCobra said:Tequila is back!!!!
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Ross is an all time great UW receiver and will be missed in a big way, new weapons or not. Some of you are off your rockers.RoadDawg55 said:
The passing game won't struggle vs the dreck non conference schedule. Ross was great, but I don't think we will really miss him. It's not a slight. I was a huge Ross supporter from his freshman year. The guy was special.Woof said:
I think we're underestimating the loss of Ross on offensive production. Pettis is a great #2, but he can't open up defenses like Ross could. Charlie McClutchins fills that role to some extent, but early in the season we're going see mostly Pettis and a bunch of skinny shifty guys at WR/Slot (Fuller, Bacellia, McGrew). The downside is that all those guys are small and not the most physical at downfield blocking.Dennis_DeYoung said:
There are no good RBs this year.
Pleasant will be chinteresting, though.
Dotson is a guy who could potentially develop and I say that as a person who has been down on him since day 1.
The adjustments he needs to make in his game are akin to what Coleman needed: hit the hole fast, give effort on every run.
It can be hard to disentangle bad vision, not bursting toward the hole, lack of confidence and being slow.
Obviously Dotson is fast, but it might not come out for another year or so as he learns to hit holes and read blocks.
I suspect he will be passed up by McGrew and Ahmed, but these kids generally develop pretty well and I'm not ruling it out.
Hamdan's latest crop of jihadis should fill the role, but I think we'll see some struggles early on in the season generating a big passing attack. Ty Jones and Alex Cook could be devastating blockers if they have the mindset for it. We should be pounding the rock early in the year to let the WRs grow into their roles, but who knows what will happen.
As far as RB recruiting, TJ Pledger is a beast, but you're right, there is a better chance of you walking again than us? getting him. Chris Brown from Oceanside is the guy I'm hoping to get.
There are too many other options. Not all the true freshmen will be ready to be featured right away, but a couple will.
I want a run heavy offense too because it creates a mindset and is more consistent than passing, but I'm going to assume we will be balanced. We aren't averse to the run, but Petersen has always had a QB centric offense. -
Zebra does not lose its stripesIce_Holmvik said:
I like how he tried to disguise it by making multiple posts.WeakarmCobra said:Tequila is back!!!!
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I think both statements are true. He's an all time great receiver and the totality of talent stepping up should help us to not really miss a beat offensively. It's going to look different for sure but adding McGrew plus even two of Bryant, Jones, Lenius, Cook, Bynum and hopefully more development from McLatcher (and maybe Jake?) should go a long way, especially with the stable of RB's. And that's not even mentioning Ahmad.Gladstone said:
Ross is an all time great UW receiver and will be missed in a big way, new weapons or not. Some of you are off your rockers.RoadDawg55 said:
The passing game won't struggle vs the dreck non conference schedule. Ross was great, but I don't think we will really miss him. It's not a slight. I was a huge Ross supporter from his freshman year. The guy was special.Woof said:
I think we're underestimating the loss of Ross on offensive production. Pettis is a great #2, but he can't open up defenses like Ross could. Charlie McClutchins fills that role to some extent, but early in the season we're going see mostly Pettis and a bunch of skinny shifty guys at WR/Slot (Fuller, Bacellia, McGrew). The downside is that all those guys are small and not the most physical at downfield blocking.Dennis_DeYoung said:
There are no good RBs this year.
Pleasant will be chinteresting, though.
Dotson is a guy who could potentially develop and I say that as a person who has been down on him since day 1.
The adjustments he needs to make in his game are akin to what Coleman needed: hit the hole fast, give effort on every run.
It can be hard to disentangle bad vision, not bursting toward the hole, lack of confidence and being slow.
Obviously Dotson is fast, but it might not come out for another year or so as he learns to hit holes and read blocks.
I suspect he will be passed up by McGrew and Ahmed, but these kids generally develop pretty well and I'm not ruling it out.
Hamdan's latest crop of jihadis should fill the role, but I think we'll see some struggles early on in the season generating a big passing attack. Ty Jones and Alex Cook could be devastating blockers if they have the mindset for it. We should be pounding the rock early in the year to let the WRs grow into their roles, but who knows what will happen.
As far as RB recruiting, TJ Pledger is a beast, but you're right, there is a better chance of you walking again than us? getting him. Chris Brown from Oceanside is the guy I'm hoping to get.
There are too many other options. Not all the true freshmen will be ready to be featured right away, but a couple will.
I want a run heavy offense too because it creates a mindset and is more consistent than passing, but I'm going to assume we will be balanced. We aren't averse to the run, but Petersen has always had a QB centric offense.
We have basically everyone back besides Ross, plus plenty of new talent coming in. We should be better. -
Couldn't agree with this more ...dnc said:
I think both statements are true. He's an all time great receiver and the totality of talent stepping up should help us to not really miss a beat offensively. It's going to look different for sure but adding McGrew plus even two of Bryant, Jones, Lenius, Cook, Bynum and hopefully more development from McLatcher (and maybe Jake?) should go a long way, especially with the stable of RB's. And that's not even mentioning Ahmad.Gladstone said:
Ross is an all time great UW receiver and will be missed in a big way, new weapons or not. Some of you are off your rockers.RoadDawg55 said:
The passing game won't struggle vs the dreck non conference schedule. Ross was great, but I don't think we will really miss him. It's not a slight. I was a huge Ross supporter from his freshman year. The guy was special.Woof said:
I think we're underestimating the loss of Ross on offensive production. Pettis is a great #2, but he can't open up defenses like Ross could. Charlie McClutchins fills that role to some extent, but early in the season we're going see mostly Pettis and a bunch of skinny shifty guys at WR/Slot (Fuller, Bacellia, McGrew). The downside is that all those guys are small and not the most physical at downfield blocking.Dennis_DeYoung said:
There are no good RBs this year.
Pleasant will be chinteresting, though.
Dotson is a guy who could potentially develop and I say that as a person who has been down on him since day 1.
The adjustments he needs to make in his game are akin to what Coleman needed: hit the hole fast, give effort on every run.
It can be hard to disentangle bad vision, not bursting toward the hole, lack of confidence and being slow.
Obviously Dotson is fast, but it might not come out for another year or so as he learns to hit holes and read blocks.
I suspect he will be passed up by McGrew and Ahmed, but these kids generally develop pretty well and I'm not ruling it out.
Hamdan's latest crop of jihadis should fill the role, but I think we'll see some struggles early on in the season generating a big passing attack. Ty Jones and Alex Cook could be devastating blockers if they have the mindset for it. We should be pounding the rock early in the year to let the WRs grow into their roles, but who knows what will happen.
As far as RB recruiting, TJ Pledger is a beast, but you're right, there is a better chance of you walking again than us? getting him. Chris Brown from Oceanside is the guy I'm hoping to get.
There are too many other options. Not all the true freshmen will be ready to be featured right away, but a couple will.
I want a run heavy offense too because it creates a mindset and is more consistent than passing, but I'm going to assume we will be balanced. We aren't averse to the run, but Petersen has always had a QB centric offense.
We have basically everyone back besides Ross, plus plenty of new talent coming in. We should be better.
Ross is a unique talent that you don't easily replace ...
But there's A LOT of talent coming in to shoulder the replacement load ... and nobody has to shoulder it by themselves.
To me, what the offense is replacing is similar to the idea that the defense would go backwards losing Kikaha, Shelton, Shaq, and Peters. We may not have necessarily immediately replaced any of them with players that were better but collectively the overall defensive talent got better which made the defense better. I can see similar things for the offense. -
With some I can't win ... if I respond with specific responses to specific posts but have multiple responses it's viewed that I'm creatively finding a way to make a TL, DR post. If instead I consolidate then it's why didn't I respond to each individually?Ice_Holmvik said:
I like how he tried to disguise it by making multiple posts.WeakarmCobra said:Tequila is back!!!!
Some will find the smallest thing to nitpick. -
Have to agree with you on this one. Taking criticism for breaking the long soliloquy into multiple poasts is nitpicking.Tequilla said:
With some I can't win ... if I respond with specific responses to specific posts but have multiple responses it's viewed that I'm creatively finding a way to make a TL, DR post. If instead I consolidate then it's why didn't I respond to each individually?Ice_Holmvik said:
I like how he tried to disguise it by making multiple posts.WeakarmCobra said:Tequila is back!!!!
Some will find the smallest thing to nitpick.
FWIW, I vote for multiple poasts. -
Bama loses a Julio Jones and has another lined up. Just like their tailbacks. Life goes on
I grew to love Ross this year and think he is great. I wish we didn't have a noodle arm faggot at QB because he could have put some records out of reach -
Chico is going to take a big leap this year, played half the year with a damaged MCL. #MiChicodnc said:
McLatcher needs to take the leap. He'll probably never be Ross as a route runner (though I don't put anything past #MyBush), but he needs to improve his ball skills and at least be able to bring down the wide open/underthrown/now contested deep ball. If he can do that with regularity, the offense shouldn't miss a beat. Adding the two big threats you noted will be very interesting. I'm not sure they'll play a ton at first but by mid year I would expect both to be big parts of the rotation, though probably not starters.Tequilla said:Where the WRs will need to prove themselves without Ross will be in that in 2016 defenses had to be scared enough of Ross and his speed that created a problem either defending the deep pass or slowing the running game. I would expect DCs to make us prove that we can do the same without Ross.
I actually think we can create similar problems without Ross, but it will be largely due to the increased size of some of our WRs versus the speed. Both Ty Jones and Hunter Bryant are significant matchup problems on the outside if left in a position where they will be 1 on 1. I would also expect that at least early in the year most safety shading will likely be to the side of the field where Pettis lines up. Jones and Bryant won't necessarily run by you with their speed, but they can go up and get the ball ... which isn't necessarily a huge strength of Pettis (he isn't bad at) and definitely not the strength of Ross.
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I really think people are underselling McGrew, he will have a role as a running back for us. I see third down back this year and get him the ball in space, and then the following year he is sharing carries with Ahmed. He has vision that you cannot teach.
(granted Gaskin could stay, we'll see; I agree it's likely too early to speculate if he will, but yeah. The poont still stands that I think mcgrew is underrated)
