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Another big surprise...more made up "Global Warming" data...

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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,068
    I learned on Wikipedia that we are currently in an ice age.

    So don't worry fuckers. Soon it'll get nice and chilly. I've got some room in my basement that I'm gonna charge top dollar for when you shitheads get frozen out of your home's.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,995
    2001400ex said:

    Dugdawg said:

    That article is simply politically motivated. Lamar Smith and the rest of the Deniers have been after NOAA for years. Anthropogenic climate change is a real thing. It ain't gonna stop just cause you refuse to acknowledge the vast preponderance of evidence or because Trump and his buddies want to keep the gravy trains running. Sorry.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2017/01/05/new_research_confirms_global_warming_pause_never_existed.html

    https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/former-noaa-scientist-confirms-colleagues-manipulated-climate-records

    There is so much stupid in this post who knows where to start. First off claiming a newspaper article is politically motivated and countering with an article from Slate is bright...add to that linking a slate article that confirms the issues brought up in the original link is great from my standpoint, but I don't think that is what the author intended. At to that the stupid "denier" label, because it's always a winner on the Internet or any argument to link things back to Hitler. And who knows what the 2nd link was for...Brilliant analysis as always.
    Facts are that the earth is warmer now, warmest in recorded history. Every countries scientists agree using their data.

    But keep thinking that conservative pundits, oil executives and politicians have your back. They have no vested interest in convincing people like you and the government they climate change is a hoax. And are definitely smarter than people who study the climate for a living.
    Statistically false (1998 and this last year which included Lord knows how much fake data) and meaningless considering that "recorded history" sounds great but is really like 30 or 40 years.

    But continue blathering on with your speed limit IQ.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Dugdawg said:

    That article is simply politically motivated. Lamar Smith and the rest of the Deniers have been after NOAA for years. Anthropogenic climate change is a real thing. It ain't gonna stop just cause you refuse to acknowledge the vast preponderance of evidence or because Trump and his buddies want to keep the gravy trains running. Sorry.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2017/01/05/new_research_confirms_global_warming_pause_never_existed.html

    https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/former-noaa-scientist-confirms-colleagues-manipulated-climate-records

    There is so much stupid in this post who knows where to start. First off claiming a newspaper article is politically motivated and countering with an article from Slate is bright...add to that linking a slate article that confirms the issues brought up in the original link is great from my standpoint, but I don't think that is what the author intended. At to that the stupid "denier" label, because it's always a winner on the Internet or any argument to link things back to Hitler. And who knows what the 2nd link was for...Brilliant analysis as always.
    Facts are that the earth is warmer now, warmest in recorded history. Every countries scientists agree using their data.

    But keep thinking that conservative pundits, oil executives and politicians have your back. They have no vested interest in convincing people like you and the government they climate change is a hoax. And are definitely smarter than people who study the climate for a living.
    Statistically false (1998 and this last year which included Lord knows how much fake data) and meaningless considering that "recorded history" sounds great but is really like 30 or 40 years.

    But continue blathering on with your speed limit IQ.
    Yes the thermometer was designed in 1976. Was a creation of the Nixon administration.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,995
    There is one magic thermometer that measures the daily Global temperature now and things like satellites aren't used to generate estimates? Wow...

    God you really are not bright..in the future you probably shouldn't comment on things you don't understand...but then again that would drastically cut your posting (and my amusement).
  • DugdawgDugdawg Member Posts: 308
    edited February 2017
    Using satellite data exclusively as one's source for arguing global temperature trends is cherry picking and has been repeatedly debunked as an argument (See attached). Why does the pursuit of scientific knowledge and accuracy scare you so much? Is this a faith vs. fact thing for you?
    Here's NASA's latest global temperature graph. It goes back to 1880. You know NASA right? man on the moon, and all that...


    image

    http://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/james-taylor-2015-was-not-even-close-to-hottest-year-on-record/
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,455 Founders Club
    edited February 2017
    There was a hit job on another group of climate scientists about five years ago too. Those that want to believe it believed it and some careers were damaged.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,995
    Thanks for illustrating my point...these folks put out charts that look official but the data behind them is crap and has been "adjusted" numerous times to fit the narrative they want. The US data is sparce, and global data is pretty much nonexistent going back in history.

    As an example, somehow the historical data changed significantly from the 80s to today. Here was the official North American historical chart from the late 70s/early 80s...which included the global heat waves of the 1930s that everyone knows about (dust bowl/etc).

    image

    The only way that chart changes that much to the current one is through data "adjustments"...and it's amazing how the adjustments magically fit the narrative they want...
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Thanks for illustrating my point...these folks put out charts that look official but the data behind them is crap and has been "adjusted" numerous times to fit the narrative they want. The US data is sparce, and global data is pretty much nonexistent going back in history.

    As an example, somehow the historical data changed significantly from the 80s to today. Here was the official North American historical chart from the late 70s/early 80s...which included the global heat waves of the 1930s that everyone knows about (dust bowl/etc).

    image

    The only way that chart changes that much to the current one is through data "adjustments"...and it's amazing how the adjustments magically fit the narrative they want...

    Why does you chart stop in 1960? You see, your chart illustrates exactly what my gif is getting at.

    BTW, the dust bowl is weather, not climate. The plains of the United States is not indicative of the world.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,995
    2001400ex said:

    Thanks for illustrating my point...these folks put out charts that look official but the data behind them is crap and has been "adjusted" numerous times to fit the narrative they want. The US data is sparce, and global data is pretty much nonexistent going back in history.

    As an example, somehow the historical data changed significantly from the 80s to today. Here was the official North American historical chart from the late 70s/early 80s...which included the global heat waves of the 1930s that everyone knows about (dust bowl/etc).

    image

    The only way that chart changes that much to the current one is through data "adjustments"...and it's amazing how the adjustments magically fit the narrative they want...

    Why does you chart stop in 1960? You see, your chart illustrates exactly what my gif is getting at.

    BTW, the dust bowl is weather, not climate. The plains of the United States is not indicative of the world.
    WTF are you talking about? The chart doesn't stop at 1960...it stops in the late 1970s. God you are a moron.

    And even if you accept your chart...all it says is that we are almost back up to the temps of the 30s. Well, until you change the historical data...
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Thanks for illustrating my point...these folks put out charts that look official but the data behind them is crap and has been "adjusted" numerous times to fit the narrative they want. The US data is sparce, and global data is pretty much nonexistent going back in history.

    As an example, somehow the historical data changed significantly from the 80s to today. Here was the official North American historical chart from the late 70s/early 80s...which included the global heat waves of the 1930s that everyone knows about (dust bowl/etc).

    image

    The only way that chart changes that much to the current one is through data "adjustments"...and it's amazing how the adjustments magically fit the narrative they want...

    Why does you chart stop in 1960? You see, your chart illustrates exactly what my gif is getting at.

    BTW, the dust bowl is weather, not climate. The plains of the United States is not indicative of the world.
    WTF are you talking about? The chart doesn't stop at 1960...it stops in the late 1970s. God you are a moron.

    And even if you accept your chart...all it says is that we are almost back up to the temps of the 30s. Well, until you change the historical data...
    I'm the moron. But you throw out a chart ignoring the last 40 years. Also like 4 posts ago you said recorded history was only "like 30 or 40 years".

    Not to mention that global warming is being linked to CO2 emissions. What do you think happened the last 40 years globally with CO2 emissions?
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Whose chart is it? Who provides their funding? What is the political agenda of those funding it? What policy(ies) is/are being influenced by the sponsored results?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    Whose chart is it? Who provides their funding? What is the political agenda of those funding it? What policy(ies) is/are being influenced by the sponsored results?

    Exactly. You are on the side of politicians, conservative pundits, and oil execs.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    I'm on any/every side that is against you.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,995
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Thanks for illustrating my point...these folks put out charts that look official but the data behind them is crap and has been "adjusted" numerous times to fit the narrative they want. The US data is sparce, and global data is pretty much nonexistent going back in history.

    As an example, somehow the historical data changed significantly from the 80s to today. Here was the official North American historical chart from the late 70s/early 80s...which included the global heat waves of the 1930s that everyone knows about (dust bowl/etc).

    image

    The only way that chart changes that much to the current one is through data "adjustments"...and it's amazing how the adjustments magically fit the narrative they want...

    Why does you chart stop in 1960? You see, your chart illustrates exactly what my gif is getting at.

    BTW, the dust bowl is weather, not climate. The plains of the United States is not indicative of the world.
    WTF are you talking about? The chart doesn't stop at 1960...it stops in the late 1970s. God you are a moron.

    And even if you accept your chart...all it says is that we are almost back up to the temps of the 30s. Well, until you change the historical data...
    I'm the moron. But you throw out a chart ignoring the last 40 years. Also like 4 posts ago you said recorded history was only "like 30 or 40 years".

    Not to mention that global warming is being linked to CO2 emissions. What do you think happened the last 40 years globally with CO2 emissions?
    Thank you for not getting the point...big surprise. You can't say CO2 causes global warming and have the temps in the 30s the same as the temps today, so you have to "adjust" the historical temps down as they have. And you can't have a pause in global warming over the last 19 years or so when the CO2 levels have gone up as much or more than the previous years when temps did rise, so you have to find ways to adjust the data to force the temps to rise as they apparently did.

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