Another big surprise...more made up "Global Warming" data...

HoustonHusky

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html

The Mail on Sunday today reveals astonishing evidence that the organisation that is the world’s leading source of climate data rushed to publish a landmark paper that exaggerated global warming and was timed to influence the historic Paris Agreement on climate change.
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Both datasets were flawed. This newspaper has learnt that NOAA has now decided that the sea dataset will have to be replaced and substantially revised just 18 months after it was issued, because it used unreliable methods which overstated the speed of warming. The revised data will show both lower temperatures and a slower rate in the recent warming trend.

The land temperature dataset used by the study was afflicted by devastating bugs in its software that rendered its findings ‘unstable’.
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Dr Bates said: ‘They had good data from buoys. And they threw it out and “corrected” it by using the bad data from ships. You never change good data to agree with bad, but that’s what they did – so as to make it look as if the sea was warmer.’
ERSSTv4 ‘adjusted’ buoy readings up by 0.12C. It also ignored data from satellites that measure the temperature of the lower atmosphere, which are also considered reliable. Dr Bates said he gave the paper’s co-authors ‘a hard time’ about this, ‘and they never really justified what they were doing.’

etc..etc..

The sad part is that I'm sure the raw data sets themselves (both in this and other sets) have been compromised beyond validity, which means they pretty much are completely worthless for actual science.

CuntWaffle

Here comes one of our liberal lap dogs who will post some shitty graph/chart no one gives a flying fuck about.

PurpleThrobber

Figures lie and liars figure.

It figures.

2001400ex

So let's get rid of the EPA and coal plants can dump in rivers again. I enjoy acid rain.

BrickSquad

Is evolution fake too trump?

Pitchfork51

PurpleThrobber said:

Figures lie and liars figure.

It figures.

Either way, you know

WilburHooksHands

Yall need to graduate from Breitbart and British tabloids.

Dude61

In other global warning news: the newest glacier in the world is in the crater of Mt. St. Helen's, and today it snowed in the United Arab Emirates.

Sledog

HoustonHusky said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html

The Mail on Sunday today reveals astonishing evidence that the organisation that is the world’s leading source of climate data rushed to publish a landmark paper that exaggerated global warming and was timed to influence the historic Paris Agreement on climate change.
...
Both datasets were flawed. This newspaper has learnt that NOAA has now decided that the sea dataset will have to be replaced and substantially revised just 18 months after it was issued, because it used unreliable methods which overstated the speed of warming. The revised data will show both lower temperatures and a slower rate in the recent warming trend.

The land temperature dataset used by the study was afflicted by devastating bugs in its software that rendered its findings ‘unstable’.
...

Dr Bates said: ‘They had good data from buoys. And they threw it out and “corrected” it by using the bad data from ships. You never change good data to agree with bad, but that’s what they did – so as to make it look as if the sea was warmer.’
ERSSTv4 ‘adjusted’ buoy readings up by 0.12C. It also ignored data from satellites that measure the temperature of the lower atmosphere, which are also considered reliable. Dr Bates said he gave the paper’s co-authors ‘a hard time’ about this, ‘and they never really justified what they were doing.’

etc..etc..

The sad part is that I'm sure the raw data sets themselves (both in this and other sets) have been compromised beyond validity, which means they pretty much are completely worthless for actual science.

Give them a few months and they'll use them anyway.

Hippopeteamus

WilburHooksHands said:

Yall need to graduate from Breitbart and British tabloids.

To be fair, while the mail on Sunday is technically a tabloid (it is published in tabloid format, not on broadsheet), its editorial staff is not the same as the daily mail, they are separate papers.

Dugdawg

CuntWaffle said:

Here comes one of our liberal lap dogs who will post some shitty graph/chart no one gives a flying fuck about.

Yeah, I hear the Scientific Method is a Liberal Elite construct.

Gravity Always Wins..even if you don't give a flying fuck.

HoustonHusky

Dugdawg said:

CuntWaffle said:

Here comes one of our liberal lap dogs who will post some shitty graph/chart no one gives a flying fuck about.

Yeah, I hear the Scientific Method is a Liberal Elite construct.

Gravity Always Wins..even if you don't give a flying fuck.

Huh? WTF are you rambling about.

The entire point is that these "researchers" were doing anything but applying the scientific method...but carry on now.

Dugdawg

That article is simply politically motivated. Lamar Smith and the rest of the Deniers have been after NOAA for years. Anthropogenic climate change is a real thing. It ain't gonna stop just cause you refuse to acknowledge the vast preponderance of evidence or because Trump and his buddies want to keep the gravy trains running. Sorry.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2017/01/05/new_research_confirms_global_warming_pause_never_existed.html

https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/former-noaa-scientist-confirms-colleagues-manipulated-climate-records

HoustonHusky

Dugdawg said:

That article is simply politically motivated. Lamar Smith and the rest of the Deniers have been after NOAA for years. Anthropogenic climate change is a real thing. It ain't gonna stop just cause you refuse to acknowledge the vast preponderance of evidence or because Trump and his buddies want to keep the gravy trains running. Sorry.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2017/01/05/new_research_confirms_global_warming_pause_never_existed.html

https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/former-noaa-scientist-confirms-colleagues-manipulated-climate-records

There is so much stupid in this post who knows where to start. First off claiming a newspaper article is politically motivated and countering with an article from Slate is bright...add to that linking a slate article that confirms the issues brought up in the original link is great from my standpoint, but I don't think that is what the author intended. At to that the stupid "denier" label, because it's always a winner on the Internet or any argument to link things back to Hitler. And who knows what the 2nd link was for...Brilliant analysis as always.

2001400ex

HoustonHusky said:

Dugdawg said:

That article is simply politically motivated. Lamar Smith and the rest of the Deniers have been after NOAA for years. Anthropogenic climate change is a real thing. It ain't gonna stop just cause you refuse to acknowledge the vast preponderance of evidence or because Trump and his buddies want to keep the gravy trains running. Sorry.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2017/01/05/new_research_confirms_global_warming_pause_never_existed.html

https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/former-noaa-scientist-confirms-colleagues-manipulated-climate-records

There is so much stupid in this post who knows where to start. First off claiming a newspaper article is politically motivated and countering with an article from Slate is bright...add to that linking a slate article that confirms the issues brought up in the original link is great from my standpoint, but I don't think that is what the author intended. At to that the stupid "denier" label, because it's always a winner on the Internet or any argument to link things back to Hitler. And who knows what the 2nd link was for...Brilliant analysis as always.

Facts are that the earth is warmer now, warmest in recorded history. Every countries scientists agree using their data.

But keep thinking that conservative pundits, oil executives and politicians have your back. They have no vested interest in convincing people like you and the government they climate change is a hoax. And are definitely smarter than people who study the climate for a living.

doogie

Hondo defends fake facts same way he defends fake news

2001400ex

doogie said:

Hondo defends fake facts same way he defends fake news

Right. Nice factual well thought out post as always.

doogie

Thank you.

BennyBeaver

doogie said:

Thank you.

Classy poast. Classy poaster.

RoadTrip

2001400ex said:

So let's get rid of the EPA and coal plants can dump in rivers again. I enjoy acid rain.

It's not working well enough on you

Dugdawg

That article is simply politically motivated. Lamar Smith and the rest of the Deniers have been after NOAA for years. Anthropogenic climate change is a real thing. It ain't gonna stop just cause you refuse to acknowledge the vast preponderance of evidence or because Trump and his buddies want to keep the gravy trains running. Sorry.

http://www.blastr.com/badastronomy/2017-2-6/sorry-climate-change-deniers-global-warming-pause-still-never-happened

Pitchfork51

I learned on Wikipedia that we are currently in an ice age.

So don't worry fuckers. Soon it'll get nice and chilly. I've got some room in my basement that I'm gonna charge top dollar for when you shitheads get frozen out of your home's.

HoustonHusky

2001400ex said:

HoustonHusky said:

Dugdawg said:

That article is simply politically motivated. Lamar Smith and the rest of the Deniers have been after NOAA for years. Anthropogenic climate change is a real thing. It ain't gonna stop just cause you refuse to acknowledge the vast preponderance of evidence or because Trump and his buddies want to keep the gravy trains running. Sorry.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2017/01/05/new_research_confirms_global_warming_pause_never_existed.html

https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/former-noaa-scientist-confirms-colleagues-manipulated-climate-records

There is so much stupid in this post who knows where to start. First off claiming a newspaper article is politically motivated and countering with an article from Slate is bright...add to that linking a slate article that confirms the issues brought up in the original link is great from my standpoint, but I don't think that is what the author intended. At to that the stupid "denier" label, because it's always a winner on the Internet or any argument to link things back to Hitler. And who knows what the 2nd link was for...Brilliant analysis as always.

Facts are that the earth is warmer now, warmest in recorded history. Every countries scientists agree using their data.

But keep thinking that conservative pundits, oil executives and politicians have your back. They have no vested interest in convincing people like you and the government they climate change is a hoax. And are definitely smarter than people who study the climate for a living.

Statistically false (1998 and this last year which included Lord knows how much fake data) and meaningless considering that "recorded history" sounds great but is really like 30 or 40 years.

But continue blathering on with your speed limit IQ.

2001400ex

HoustonHusky said:

2001400ex said:

HoustonHusky said:

Dugdawg said:

That article is simply politically motivated. Lamar Smith and the rest of the Deniers have been after NOAA for years. Anthropogenic climate change is a real thing. It ain't gonna stop just cause you refuse to acknowledge the vast preponderance of evidence or because Trump and his buddies want to keep the gravy trains running. Sorry.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2017/01/05/new_research_confirms_global_warming_pause_never_existed.html

https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/former-noaa-scientist-confirms-colleagues-manipulated-climate-records

There is so much stupid in this post who knows where to start. First off claiming a newspaper article is politically motivated and countering with an article from Slate is bright...add to that linking a slate article that confirms the issues brought up in the original link is great from my standpoint, but I don't think that is what the author intended. At to that the stupid "denier" label, because it's always a winner on the Internet or any argument to link things back to Hitler. And who knows what the 2nd link was for...Brilliant analysis as always.

Facts are that the earth is warmer now, warmest in recorded history. Every countries scientists agree using their data.

But keep thinking that conservative pundits, oil executives and politicians have your back. They have no vested interest in convincing people like you and the government they climate change is a hoax. And are definitely smarter than people who study the climate for a living.

Statistically false (1998 and this last year which included Lord knows how much fake data) and meaningless considering that "recorded history" sounds great but is really like 30 or 40 years.

But continue blathering on with your speed limit IQ.

Yes the thermometer was designed in 1976. Was a creation of the Nixon administration.

HoustonHusky

There is one magic thermometer that measures the daily Global temperature now and things like satellites aren't used to generate estimates? Wow...

God you really are not bright..in the future you probably shouldn't comment on things you don't understand...but then again that would drastically cut your posting (and my amusement).

Dugdawg

Using satellite data exclusively as one's source for arguing global temperature trends is cherry picking and has been repeatedly debunked as an argument (See attached). Why does the pursuit of scientific knowledge and accuracy scare you so much? Is this a faith vs. fact thing for you?
Here's NASA's latest global temperature graph. It goes back to 1880. You know NASA right? man on the moon, and all that...




http://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/james-taylor-2015-was-not-even-close-to-hottest-year-on-record/

2001400ex

Fire_Marshall_Bill

There was a hit job on another group of climate scientists about five years ago too. Those that want to believe it believed it and some careers were damaged.

HoustonHusky

Thanks for illustrating my point...these folks put out charts that look official but the data behind them is crap and has been "adjusted" numerous times to fit the narrative they want. The US data is sparce, and global data is pretty much nonexistent going back in history.

As an example, somehow the historical data changed significantly from the 80s to today. Here was the official North American historical chart from the late 70s/early 80s...which included the global heat waves of the 1930s that everyone knows about (dust bowl/etc).



The only way that chart changes that much to the current one is through data "adjustments"...and it's amazing how the adjustments magically fit the narrative they want...

2001400ex

HoustonHusky said:

Thanks for illustrating my point...these folks put out charts that look official but the data behind them is crap and has been "adjusted" numerous times to fit the narrative they want. The US data is sparce, and global data is pretty much nonexistent going back in history.

As an example, somehow the historical data changed significantly from the 80s to today. Here was the official North American historical chart from the late 70s/early 80s...which included the global heat waves of the 1930s that everyone knows about (dust bowl/etc).



The only way that chart changes that much to the current one is through data "adjustments"...and it's amazing how the adjustments magically fit the narrative they want...

Why does you chart stop in 1960? You see, your chart illustrates exactly what my gif is getting at.

BTW, the dust bowl is weather, not climate. The plains of the United States is not indicative of the world.

HoustonHusky

2001400ex said:

HoustonHusky said:

Thanks for illustrating my point...these folks put out charts that look official but the data behind them is crap and has been "adjusted" numerous times to fit the narrative they want. The US data is sparce, and global data is pretty much nonexistent going back in history.

As an example, somehow the historical data changed significantly from the 80s to today. Here was the official North American historical chart from the late 70s/early 80s...which included the global heat waves of the 1930s that everyone knows about (dust bowl/etc).



The only way that chart changes that much to the current one is through data "adjustments"...and it's amazing how the adjustments magically fit the narrative they want...

Why does you chart stop in 1960? You see, your chart illustrates exactly what my gif is getting at.

BTW, the dust bowl is weather, not climate. The plains of the United States is not indicative of the world.

WTF are you talking about? The chart doesn't stop at 1960...it stops in the late 1970s. God you are a moron.

And even if you accept your chart...all it says is that we are almost back up to the temps of the 30s. Well, until you change the historical data...