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Nick Ford -- what happened?

TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,798
in The Fisch Bowl (Recruiting)
Last I'd heard, he was a rare human who UW wanted at OT but who preferred to play DT.

Okay, fine. UW was also still scrambling for DLs in the final week. So why not Ford? If he's rare enough that UW preferred him at OT above Kirkland and Norgaard, why wouldn't we like him at DL at least as well as Tryon and Lolohea?

Even if you're not going to pull a DL-to-OT bait-and-switch (which is probably what UU has in mind), isn't Ford a guy who could have actually helped Malloe's DL and filled the Marlon void?

The 85-scholly limit shouldn't be a big problem, given how many greyshirt candidates are coming in. I don't get it.
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  • 89ute89ute Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,477 Swaye's Wigwam
    Of course neither of us have the luxury of asking our respective coaches what the fuck is going on, but the Utah staff moves guys around all the time. Whitt is genuine about letting a guy compete for whatever position he wants. Long, long history of this. I'm sure Nick knows he's going to get a legitimate shot at defense. If he's truly a better fit for OT he will naturally end up there.

    Since I can only guess, I think it's a philosophy difference between Whitt and Pete. Whitt is willing to let a guy "waste" reps and Pete isn't?
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  • HHBruhHHBruh Member Posts: 505
    is Strausser a white supremacist?


    Too much stereotype!?
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  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,286
    He told the coaches he was going to play DL in college.

    The coaches hadn't evaluated him as a DL prospect, only OL. Hence, he did not have an offer as a D Lineman.

    He picked a school that said he could play DL.
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  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    89ute said:

    Of course neither of us have the luxury of asking our respective coaches what the fuck is going on, but the Utah staff moves guys around all the time. Whitt is genuine about letting a guy compete for whatever position he wants. Long, long history of this. I'm sure Nick knows he's going to get a legitimate shot at defense. If he's truly a better fit for OT he will naturally end up there.

    Since I can only guess, I think it's a philosophy difference between Whitt and Pete. Whitt is willing to let a guy "waste" reps and Pete isn't?

    Every time a kid wants to play a position you don't want him to play, if you want him, you have him come in and play that position. If you don't want him, just drop him.

    And - @bananasnblondes - at least that's what Scott says!
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  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,971 Standard Supporter
    DugtheDoog said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Under Straußer, when's the last time we got a black OL that had other P5 offers?

    Always about the blacks?
    Always. It's DDY for Chrissakes.
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  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 4,905 Standard Supporter
    Adrian Klemm was fired in mid Jan so Jaxson Kirkland soon became available. They must have liked Kirkland more and didn't have room for Ford after Kirkland (legacy too) said I do.
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    HFNY said:

    Not that I'm saying it wasn't possible, but says who?

    And can you deescalate your WTF to a Vote Down? Trying to protect the stats.

    RoadDawg55 said:

    HFNY said:

    Adrian Klemm was fired in mid Jan so Jaxson Kirkland soon became available. They must have liked Kirkland more and didn't have room for Ford after Kirkland (legacy too) said I do.

    Kirkland was always available.
    Didn't even mean to wtf. 405, standstill traffic, no blow, and my fingers aren't even fat.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,748
    89ute said:

    TTJ said:

    Last I'd heard, he was a rare human who UW wanted at OT but who preferred to play DT.

    Okay, fine. UW was also still scrambling for DLs in the final week. So why not Ford? If he's rare enough that UW preferred him at OT above Kirkland and Norgaard, why wouldn't we like him at DL at least as well as Tryon and Lolohea?

    Even if you're not going to pull a DL-to-OT bait-and-switch (which is probably what UU has in mind), isn't Ford a guy who could have actually helped Malloe's DL and filled the Marlon void?

    The 85-scholly limit shouldn't be a big problem, given how many greyshirt candidates are coming in. I don't get it.

    In case anyone is wondering --
    Former defensive tackle Nick Ford suited up in red today and will play on the offensive line, according to coach Whitt. He said that the top 8 linemen are extremely good, but that there's a noticeable drop off in talent after that. Adding Ford to the fold might not help the line this year, but it's an investment in the position group down the road. Whitt also said he believes his team is 6 deep at DT and 5 deep at DE
    Of course neither of us have the luxury of asking our respective coaches what the fuck is going on, but the Utah staff moves guys around all the time. Whitt is genuine about letting a guy compete for whatever position he wants. Long, long history of this. I'm sure Nick knows he's going to get a legitimate shot at defense. If he's truly a better fit for OT he will naturally end up there.

    Since I can only guess, I think it's a philosophy difference between Whitt and Pete. Whitt is willing to let a guy "waste" reps and Pete isn't?
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  • 89ute89ute Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,477 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited August 2017
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,748
    89ute said:

    Baseman's Disclaimer: This website is for informational purposes only and does not constitute an offer to sell, a solicitation or recommendation for any scantily clad, partially nude, any suggestive broad, or similar offering, nor does it constitute an offer to provide real information regarding, and or related to the University of Washington Football program. The Chincredible button and "5 Reasons Huskies will Win" are the sole property of HH and may not be poasted, broadcast or televised without the expressed written consent of HH. The views, opinions, downvotes and WTF's expressed by TierbsHsotBoobs are solely those of Boobs and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of HH or its poasters. Anything you poast, can, and will be used against you, years later.

    Or six months later, but still
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  • theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,939 Founders Club
    89ute said:

    Of course neither of us have the luxury of asking our respective coaches what the fuck is going on, but the Utah staff moves guys around all the time. Whitt is genuine about letting a guy compete for whatever position he wants. Long, long history of this. I'm sure Nick knows he's going to get a legitimate shot at defense. If he's truly a better fit for OT he will naturally end up there.

    Since I can only guess, I think it's a philosophy difference between Whitt and Pete. Whitt is willing to let a guy "waste" reps and Pete isn't?

    Mcgary was allowed to waste a fall on defense. He was in Pete's first class and local so maybe that played into the bait and switch but he is one example.
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  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    dnc said:

    89ute said:

    Baseman's Disclaimer: This website is for informational purposes only and does not constitute an offer to sell, a solicitation or recommendation for any scantily clad, partially nude, any suggestive broad, or similar offering, nor does it constitute an offer to provide real information regarding, and or related to the University of Washington Football program. The Chincredible button and "5 Reasons Huskies will Win" are the sole property of HH and may not be poasted, broadcast or televised without the expressed written consent of HH. The views, opinions, downvotes and WTF's expressed by TierbsHsotBoobs are solely those of Boobs and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of HH or its poasters. Anything you poast, can, and will be used against you, years later.

    Or six months later, but still
    Or two days in teq case
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  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    BallzDeep said:

    I knew it. This is from a trip report of his visit to Utah:

    "One of the major developments from his visit is the fact that Ford would be coming to Utah as a defensive lineman, which he prefers, instead of an offensive lineman - where most other schools are recruiting him. “I spoke with Coach Harding and he was telling me he wanted me to come play offensive lineman, but if I do end up coming (to Utah), I’m actually going to be playing defensive line,” Ford explained. “I actually told Coach Whittingham and Coach Powell that I’d like to play defensive line, they gave me the choice, and Coach Whittingham and Coach Powell were both pretty excited about it, and told me that’s where they want me to play. They both see me as 3-technique defensive tackle, but possibly as a strong side defensive end, it just depends on how my body develops.” - Steve Bartle

    Utah ain't even giving this kid a chance to play D-line. They wanted him for O-line all along just like UW did because he is clearly a Tackle but they told him what he wanted to hear to get his signature. Well played Whittingham.

    Honestly, if Huff was at UW last year we would have closed ford. Chris was just a terrible recruiter
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  • 89ute89ute Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,477 Swaye's Wigwam
    I spoke with Nick Ford yesterday. He red shirted last year and I'm quite certain he's going to be starting at left guard. He's been playing all the positions on the line, including center, so if there is an injury, he will slide to that position and another dude will play left guard.

    So I asked him - "apparently your recruiting came down to a battle between us and Worshington"

    Nick: Man ... I don't know where that's coming from (I got the impression he's been asked about this before) I committed to Utah on my visit.

    89ute ... inquisitive, questioning look on his face

    Nick ... I was a silent commit

    89ute ... Silent commit, (again with the inquisitive look) what's up with the "silent commit"

    Nick ... I want to go to medical school. I told the coaches I wanted to visit Washington to check out their medical school. You know Washington has an outstanding medical school. (we both then chat back and forth about Worshington's supreme academis)


    We chatted a little more and he emphasized he loved Utah from the moment he arrived and that's why he commited.

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