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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    ThomasFremont said:

    Tequilla said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Worthy made Chambers his bitch

    Bird >>>>>>>>>>>>> Worthy ... not even close
    Call me crazy, but Larry Bird is the most overrated bball player in history.

    We get it, he's good for a white guy.

    But he doesn't belong in the elite conversation...not even close.
    So you're saying that Isaiah Thomas and Dennis Rodman were right?
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Tequilla said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Worthy made Chambers his bitch

    Bird >>>>>>>>>>>>> Worthy ... not even close
    Call me crazy, but Larry Bird is the most overrated bball player in history.

    We get it, he's good for a white guy.

    But he doesn't belong in the elite conversation...not even close.
    Yeah you're crazy.

    He's top 7 at absolute worst. I have him at 5.
    Better than Kobe? Duncan? Shaq? How do you decide who is best? They are all franchise players.

    There is very little to no difference from the guy ranked #5 to the guy ranked 15-20.
    That could be a very chinteresting discussion for anybody wanting to nerd out during the offseason.

    I don't disagree with you that largely when you get to the elite of the elite, the differences between players become very slim.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Tequilla said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Worthy made Chambers his bitch

    Bird >>>>>>>>>>>>> Worthy ... not even close
    Call me crazy, but Larry Bird is the most overrated bball player in history.

    We get it, he's good for a white guy.

    But he doesn't belong in the elite conversation...not even close.
    Yeah you're crazy.

    He's top 7 at absolute worst. I have him at 5.
    Better than Kobe? Duncan? Shaq? How do you decide who is best? They are all franchise players.

    There is very little to no difference from the guy ranked #5 to the guy ranked 15-20.
    The only one of those three I think you can argue was better than Bird is Duncan, and I'd take Kobe's consensual six.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    Shaq to me is one of the all-time what ifs ... if he really cared about being the best he'd have kept himself in much better shape and won a few more titles. His dominance was as unparalleled as Wilt's in his era. But because he didn't, I think you can make a really good argument for not only Wilt being ahead of him (only area where Shaq has him is in rings) but also Moses Malone and Hakeem Olajuwon.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    Shaq to me is one of the all-time what ifs ... if he really cared about being the best he'd have kept himself in much better shape and won a few more titles. His dominance was as unparalleled as Wilt's in his era. But because he didn't, I think you can make a really good argument for not only Wilt being ahead of him (only area where Shaq has him is in rings) but also Moses Malone and Hakeem Olajuwon.

    ROFL

    Shaq is WAY better.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,533 Standard Supporter
    ThomasFremont said:

    Tequilla said:

    Shaq to me is one of the all-time what ifs ... if he really cared about being the best he'd have kept himself in much better shape and won a few more titles. His dominance was as unparalleled as Wilt's in his era. But because he didn't, I think you can make a really good argument for not only Wilt being ahead of him (only area where Shaq has him is in rings) but also Moses Malone and Hakeem Olajuwon.

    ROFL

    Shaq is WAY better.
    When Shaq tried he was way better.

    Malone and Akeem were relentless every single possession.

    Shaq could have had Wilt/Kareem like numbers.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    PurpleThrobber said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Tequilla said:

    Shaq to me is one of the all-time what ifs ... if he really cared about being the best he'd have kept himself in much better shape and won a few more titles. His dominance was as unparalleled as Wilt's in his era. But because he didn't, I think you can make a really good argument for not only Wilt being ahead of him (only area where Shaq has him is in rings) but also Moses Malone and Hakeem Olajuwon.

    ROFL

    Shaq is WAY better.
    When Shaq tried he was way better.

    Malone and Akeem were relentless every single possession.

    Shaq could have had Wilt/Kareem like numbers.
    For a guy that didn't try, he still ended up #7 in scoring and won a shit ton of rings.

    Not to mention he was more physically imposing than any player in league history.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    ThomasFremont said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Tequilla said:

    Shaq to me is one of the all-time what ifs ... if he really cared about being the best he'd have kept himself in much better shape and won a few more titles. His dominance was as unparalleled as Wilt's in his era. But because he didn't, I think you can make a really good argument for not only Wilt being ahead of him (only area where Shaq has him is in rings) but also Moses Malone and Hakeem Olajuwon.

    ROFL

    Shaq is WAY better.
    When Shaq tried he was way better.

    Malone and Akeem were relentless every single possession.

    Shaq could have had Wilt/Kareem like numbers.
    For a guy that didn't try, he still ended up #7 in scoring and won a shit ton of rings.

    Not to mention he was more physically imposing than any player in league history.
    That's what he's saying though. If he would have tried he could have been top 3 all time.

    Shaq was lazy as hell. There's a reason Kobe hated him. Kobe might be a selfish asshole but he's a competitive asshole.

    Is four rings a shit ton?
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    dnc said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Tequilla said:

    Shaq to me is one of the all-time what ifs ... if he really cared about being the best he'd have kept himself in much better shape and won a few more titles. His dominance was as unparalleled as Wilt's in his era. But because he didn't, I think you can make a really good argument for not only Wilt being ahead of him (only area where Shaq has him is in rings) but also Moses Malone and Hakeem Olajuwon.

    ROFL

    Shaq is WAY better.
    When Shaq tried he was way better.

    Malone and Akeem were relentless every single possession.

    Shaq could have had Wilt/Kareem like numbers.
    For a guy that didn't try, he still ended up #7 in scoring and won a shit ton of rings.

    Not to mention he was more physically imposing than any player in league history.
    That's what he's saying though. If he would have tried he could have been top 3 all time.

    Shaq was lazy as hell. There's a reason Kobe hated him. Kobe might be a selfish asshole but he's a competitive asshole.

    Is four rings a shit ton?
    He's no Robert Horry, but yeah, 4 seems pretty good.

    Jordan ONLY has 6...and Shaq wasn't even trying.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Shaq never won without a top 5 all time shooting guard.
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