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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,882
    What exactly did Barkley say that wasn't accurate? Cavs have the highest payroll in the league and have basically done everything that LBJ has asked them to do. Yet he's still sitting there and saying we need more ... the reality is that they are overwhelming favorites to win the East. All that really matters for the Cavs is to get healthy for the playoffs and then take their chances.

    LBJ comes off as a whiny bitch far too often for my taste ... he's a top 10 player all time but there's reason for people to keep him out of the Top 5.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,882

    Not having Lebron in your top 5 is admitting one of two things. Either your biased or you're an idiot. End of discussion.

    He isn't Jordan, Russell, or Kareem ...

    I'm not putting him ahead of Magic ...

    Is he better than Bird? Is he better than Wilt? How about Duncan? I think you can make arguments for any of the players at that point.

    The Bird/LBJ numbers are closer than most LBJ supporters would like to admit.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,986 Founders Club
    Bird

    Yeah right
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,744
    Tequilla said:

    What exactly did Barkley say that wasn't accurate? Cavs have the highest payroll in the league and have basically done everything that LBJ has asked them to do. Yet he's still sitting there and saying we need more ... the reality is that they are overwhelming favorites to win the East. All that really matters for the Cavs is to get healthy for the playoffs and then take their chances.

    LBJ comes off as a whiny bitch far too often for my taste ... he's a top 10 player all time but there's reason for people to keep him out of the Top 5.

    Upvoted for everything but the last line. He's number 5 at the absolute worst, and honestly I think he's #3 behind Jordan and Russell.

    But yeah, he's still a whiny bitch.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    What exactly did Barkley say that wasn't accurate? Cavs have the highest payroll in the league and have basically done everything that LBJ has asked them to do. Yet he's still sitting there and saying we need more ... the reality is that they are overwhelming favorites to win the East. All that really matters for the Cavs is to get healthy for the playoffs and then take their chances.

    LBJ comes off as a whiny bitch far too often for my taste ... he's a top 10 player all time but there's reason for people to keep him out of the Top 5.

    Upvoted for everything but the last line. He's number 5 at the absolute worst, and honestly I think he's #3 behind Jordan and Russell.

    But yeah, he's still a whiny bitch.
    Duncan >> LeBron (right now, subject to change).
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,744

    1. Wilt
    2. Baylor
    3. Jordan
    4. Russell
    5. Kareem

    Chin'ed for subtle @Tequilla troll
  • Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,983
    Lol I didn't even mean to. I just think that highly of Elgin Baylor.
  • AlCzervikAlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    1. Wilt
    2. Baylor
    3. Jordan
    4. Russell
    5. Kareem

    It's sad that Kareem wouldn't even be allowed to enter the country in Trump's America. smh
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,882

    Bird

    Yeah right

    Stats are way more similar than you think
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,235 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2017
    Tequilla said:

    Bird

    Yeah right

    Stats are way more similar than you think
    Larry Bird is the fucking truth. And also the ugliest motherfucker in the history of the NBA.

    This message brought to you by the day before Black History Month and Mars Blackmon.

  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    Not having Lebron in your top 5 is admitting one of two things. Either your biased or you're an idiot. End of discussion.

    I have Moses Malone ahead of LeBron.

    Wade won one of his rings in Miami.

    And Kyrie won it last year.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,986 Founders Club
    AlCzervik said:

    1. Wilt
    2. Baylor
    3. Jordan
    4. Russell
    5. Kareem

    It's sad that Kareem wouldn't even be allowed to enter the country in Trump's America. smh
    The Alcindors are from New York.

    Not the Coney Island Alcindors, the Bed Stuy Alcindors.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    The yearly contrived drama with LBJ and the Cavs is annoying. LeBron purposely had his weasel Windhorst writing stories about it last year when Warrior mania hit its peak.

    The Phil Jackson/posse story was another. LeBron's boys professions were irrelevant. Posse referred to LeBron and his friends.

    The Cavs will waltz through the East just like LeBron's teams do every year. They will be the underdog in the Finals against the Warriors. Nothing has changed.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Tequilla said:

    Bird

    Yeah right

    Stats are way more similar than you think
    And?
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,882

    Tequilla said:

    Bird

    Yeah right

    Stats are way more similar than you think
    And?
    A lot of people make the argument that the difference between Bird and LBJ is so vast that any discussion of comparing the two is foolish and FS. Likewise, the idea that LBJ isn't a Top 3 or Top 5 player of all time to some is just unthinkable.

    LBJ is a great player ... there's no question about it. But anybody that goes into the Top 10-15 of all time is an all-time great player. There's a lot of a splitting hairs once people get to this level of player where the intangibles start becoming way more valuable. It's why for myself personally I drop Wilt lower on my list than others.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Bird

    Yeah right

    Stats are way more similar than you think
    And?
    A lot of people make the argument that the difference between Bird and LBJ is so vast that any discussion of comparing the two is foolish and FS. Likewise, the idea that LBJ isn't a Top 3 or Top 5 player of all time to some is just unthinkable.

    LBJ is a great player ... there's no question about it. But anybody that goes into the Top 10-15 of all time is an all-time great player. There's a lot of a splitting hairs once people get to this level of player where the intangibles start becoming way more valuable. It's why for myself personally I drop Wilt lower on my list than others.
    It's not splitting hairs at all. LeBron is already better and still has good years ahead of him.
  • FreeChavezFreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Bird

    Yeah right

    Stats are way more similar than you think
    And?
    A lot of people make the argument that the difference between Bird and LBJ is so vast that any discussion of comparing the two is foolish and FS. Likewise, the idea that LBJ isn't a Top 3 or Top 5 player of all time to some is just unthinkable.

    LBJ is a great player ... there's no question about it. But anybody that goes into the Top 10-15 of all time is an all-time great player. There's a lot of a splitting hairs once people get to this level of player where the intangibles start becoming way more valuable. It's why for myself personally I drop Wilt lower on my list than others.
    Does the entire argument come down to longevity in the game at some point? Bird had to go to college, as well as broke down based on injury. So is the argument prime, career, era?

    I believe bron is top 5 for his ability to be at the top for so long without injury, but there is certainly an argument to be made that this era of player hasn't dealt with physical nature of NBA and had plenty of health conscious programs to improve careers.
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