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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,096 Standard Supporter
    Race Bannon is the Chief of Staff..or something
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,274
    that's actually true. the content is one thing - believe what you will there - but it's fucking press release, from the White House no less.

    It's fucking written like he talks - a Brooklyn smart ass. The only thing missing is some use of the word "Huge".
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,570 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    AlCzervik said:

    Although I disagree with the EO, I hate the political grandstanding of Sally Yates. You don't want to defend an EO for which a reasonable legal argument could be made (i.e. your job [hint: "not convinced of its legality" still means you could make a reasonable legal argument for it...])? Resign. This was clearly a political ploy. What's worse are the people calling her a hero for pulling a political stunt to set her up for political or private opportunities, especially when she was probably not going to have a job in about 24-48 hours anyways. Hero my ass.

    Disagree. We can't have the two parties playing by different rules. The obstructionist tactics employed by the Republicans over the last eight years should come back to bite them and I'm glad they are. Good for Sally Yates - about time the Dems stopped being pussies. Fuck Trump's nomination for the Supreme Court as well; that may never happen.
    So your solution is to make politics more partisan, justifying Republican obstructionism? You do realize the Republicans can employ the nuclear option, get rid of filibusters on Supreme Court candidates, and force through any nomination they want? Do you really want that for the next 2-3 supreme court justices? What a lot of people on the left forget is that many people who voted for Clinton voted down ballot Republican. Even though Clinton won the presidential popular vote, The GOP for both the senate and house won the popular vote over Democrats.
    and? I don't give a shit if they put into place the nuclear option. After all the shit they've pulled in week 1 along with how extreme his pick is likely going to be, they can enjoy that battle. and if they do it I prefer it going down without a fight. moderation isn't effective countering extremism.


    Immoderation is not necessarily effective either. But most Republicans aren't "extreme" and many republicans and conservatives (especially the voters) don't like Trump and common cause could be found if the left wasn't so fucking insistent on ideological purity of controversial and complex subjects. For instance, opposing abortion is not an "irrational" position. To pretend like it is "anti-women" is on the face of it absurd. When a majority of the voters are voting republican for senate and house, even when their presidential candidate is Trump, perhaps the majority in this country do not endorse the progressive view of the world? I guess you could always take up arms. That would certainly not be moderate!
    while abortion is a split issue, the people are strongly in favor of gay rights, at least some level of drug legalization, and a background check for gun purchases. So I certainly disagree on the last part.

    Ideological purity works both ways.

    As for the use of the term "extreme," on the very issue we are discussing the republicans just went 9 months without even providing a hearing on a moderate scotus pick and some talked about continuing that policy through HRC's 4 years. So yes, I am going to call them extrme.

    the problem the democrats have always had is they let the republicans dictate the conversation and then take it. they are a weak political party.
    I see you get your news from Hillary's campaign.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,011

    Would be funnier for Salley Yates if her own department hadn't reviewed the executive orders before they went out and ok'd them.

    Whoops....

    Are you implying she got to read the order?
    The office of Legal Counsel reviewed it and signed off on it as being completely legal (as is there role in the Executive Branch)...you somehow saying they aren't under her umbrella? Or are you saying they are and she's just shitty at her job and doesn't know what's going on under her?
    That's a valid point. To be fair, she was the AG for 10 whole days before getting fired.

    By the way, did the OLC actually review and approve the order? I haven't seen independent confirmation of that yet.
    They review all executive orders:

    https://www.justice.gov/olc
    All executive orders and proclamations proposed to be issued by the President are reviewed by the Office of Legal Counsel for form and legality, as are various other matters that require the President's formal approval.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    The nut job Left is classic. They spend the weekend freaking out and then polls come out supporting the policy almost 2-1. They spent the first week screaming their lungs out about every little move Trump does, and from that they finally have a legitimate bitch about how the policy was actually rolled out and it gets drown out by all of the other hysteria they are trying to generate.

    Komo4
    http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/january_2017/most_support_temporary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens

    Go fuck yourself.
    “American voters support 48 – 42 percent suspending immigration from ‘terror prone’ regions, even if it means turning away refugees from those regions,” states a press release from Quinnipiac University, which questioned 899 people by calling their landline and cell phones in early January.

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/trump-voters-back-immigration-ban-549887?amp=1?client=ms-android-verizon

    However, you read fox news and it pretends this poll was after the executive order.

    https://www.google.com/amp/insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/53966?client=ms-android-verizon

    And your poll is Rasmussen (the only poll showing over 50% approval) and the last calls were January 26. Don't you think the last 3 days of vetting the order changes things?

    Do you ever feel like you've been duped by your news source?
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    The nut job Left is classic. They spend the weekend freaking out and then polls come out supporting the policy almost 2-1. They spent the first week screaming their lungs out about every little move Trump does, and from that they finally have a legitimate bitch about how the policy was actually rolled out and it gets drown out by all of the other hysteria they are trying to generate.

    Komo4
    http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/january_2017/most_support_temporary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens

    Go fuck yourself.
    “American voters support 48 – 42 percent suspending immigration from ‘terror prone’ regions, even if it means turning away refugees from those regions,” states a press release from Quinnipiac University, which questioned 899 people by calling their landline and cell phones in early January.

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/trump-voters-back-immigration-ban-549887?amp=1?client=ms-android-verizon

    However, you read fox news and it pretends this poll was after the executive order.

    https://www.google.com/amp/insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/53966?client=ms-android-verizon

    And your poll is Rasmussen (the only poll showing over 50% approval) and the last calls were January 26. Don't you think the last 3 days of vetting the order changes things?

    Do you ever feel like you've been duped by your news source?


    God I hate typing on an iPad.
    Poor lil snowflake. Ts and Ps.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    Would be funnier for Salley Yates if her own department hadn't reviewed the executive orders before they went out and ok'd them.

    Whoops....

    Are you implying she got to read the order?
    The office of Legal Counsel reviewed it and signed off on it as being completely legal (as is there role in the Executive Branch)...you somehow saying they aren't under her umbrella? Or are you saying they are and she's just shitty at her job and doesn't know what's going on under her?
    That's a valid point. To be fair, she was the AG for 10 whole days before getting fired.

    By the way, did the OLC actually review and approve the order? I haven't seen independent confirmation of that yet.
    They review all executive orders:

    https://www.justice.gov/olc
    All executive orders and proclamations proposed to be issued by the President are reviewed by the Office of Legal Counsel for form and legality, as are various other matters that require the President's formal approval.
    Not saying they did. But given the way it was rolled out it would not shock me if they bypassed that step
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Would be funnier for Salley Yates if her own department hadn't reviewed the executive orders before they went out and ok'd them.

    Whoops....

    Are you implying she got to read the order?
    The office of Legal Counsel reviewed it and signed off on it as being completely legal (as is there role in the Executive Branch)...you somehow saying they aren't under her umbrella? Or are you saying they are and she's just shitty at her job and doesn't know what's going on under her?
    That's a valid point. To be fair, she was the AG for 10 whole days before getting fired.

    By the way, did the OLC actually review and approve the order? I haven't seen independent confirmation of that yet.
    They review all executive orders:

    https://www.justice.gov/olc
    All executive orders and proclamations proposed to be issued by the President are reviewed by the Office of Legal Counsel for form and legality, as are various other matters that require the President's formal approval.
    Now you're implying Trump follows the rules.

    CHRIST
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    dhdawg said:

    Would be funnier for Salley Yates if her own department hadn't reviewed the executive orders before they went out and ok'd them.

    Whoops....

    Are you implying she got to read the order?
    The office of Legal Counsel reviewed it and signed off on it as being completely legal (as is there role in the Executive Branch)...you somehow saying they aren't under her umbrella? Or are you saying they are and she's just shitty at her job and doesn't know what's going on under her?
    That's a valid point. To be fair, she was the AG for 10 whole days before getting fired.

    By the way, did the OLC actually review and approve the order? I haven't seen independent confirmation of that yet.
    They review all executive orders:

    https://www.justice.gov/olc
    All executive orders and proclamations proposed to be issued by the President are reviewed by the Office of Legal Counsel for form and legality, as are various other matters that require the President's formal approval.
    Not saying they did. But given the way it was rolled out it would not shock me if they bypassed that step
    Being selective in what info you believe is fun
    I appreciate your honesty.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,570 Standard Supporter
    Where were all you snowflakes when your hero Barack Hussein Obama banned Iraqi's traveling here for 6 months? Were you outraged?