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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,459 Founders Club
    Nothing is wrong with the statements in the article.
  • AlCzervikAlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    Nothing is wrong with the statements in the article.

    As the OP stated, where ideology outweighs rational thought ...
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,459 Founders Club
    AlCzervik said:

    Nothing is wrong with the statements in the article.

    As the OP stated, where ideology outweighs rational thought ...
    And he backed it up really well too

    It is actually quite rational to eliminate the vast numbers and duplication of EOs while streamlining to make it easier for bidness owners to track all the bullshit thrown their way by the feds

  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    Nothing is wrong with the statements in the article.

    Going down with the ship I see.

    Governing by the closet rule. Something only an imbecile like your hero would love
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,942 Standard Supporter
    To some, it's so simple a 5 year old would think it up. Perhaps that's what makes it a brilliant sound-bite, easily digestible in one bite.

    Once again, many are overlooking the media savvy of The Donald.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,382
    dhdawg said:

    Nothing is wrong with the statements in the article.

    Going down with the ship I see.

    Governing by the closet rule. Something only an imbecile like your hero would love
    Still a little chippy I see...
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    To some, it's so simple a 5 year old would think it up. Perhaps that's what makes it a brilliant sound-bite, easily digestible in one bite.

    Once again, many are overlooking the media savvy of The Donald.

    Um no. Trump is that simple Troomp.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,942 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2017
    2001400ex said:

    To some, it's so simple a 5 year old would think it up. Perhaps that's what makes it a brilliant sound-bite, easily digestible in one bite.

    Once again, many are overlooking the media savvy of The Donald.

    Um no. Trump is that simple Troomp.
    I'm not sure why I occasionally graciously try with you, Hondo. But these Boreds just wouldn't be the same without you, so I won't give up on you, yet. Just give a little thought before you miss so badly on the next poast.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,459 Founders Club
    dhdawg said:

    Nothing is wrong with the statements in the article.

    Going down with the ship I see.

    Governing by the closet rule. Something only an imbecile like your hero would love
    Once again devoid of any facts to back your original assertion.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,459 Founders Club
    President Trump signed an executive order on Monday to drastically reduce the regulatory burden on U.S. businesses, requiring federal agencies to effectively eliminate at least two regulations for each new one issued.

    “We have to knock out a regulation for every two, but it goes far beyond that. This is a big one,” said Trump, in signing the order that makes good on his "one in-two out" campaign promise.

    Trump has signed more than a dozen executive orders in his first 11 days in office.

    The order Monday specifically states that prior regulations must be “identified for elimination” when a new rule is put forward. However, the 900-word order makes clear that the costs associated with new regulations each year cannot go up. So they would have to be offset by eliminating “costs associated with at least two prior regulations.”

    For fiscal 2017, Trump told agency heads that the total cost of new regulations finalized this year "shall be no greater than zero" unless otherwise directed.

    “It is essential to manage the costs associated with the governmental imposition of private expenditures required to comply with federal regulations,” the document also states.

    “We will begin efforts to reduce federal regulations. We’ll be reducing them big time,” Trump said in concluding a White House meeting with small business owners before signing the order.

    The military, national security and foreign affairs are exempt from the order, which puts the Office of Management and Budget in charge of the changes.

    Agencies must present OMB with new regulations and show what is slated for elimination. However, the order offers some flexibility: allowing agencies to determine the cuts, maintaining White House input and giving the OMB director authority to make emergency exceptions.

    An administration official told Fox News that a recently issued White House memo on temporary regulation freezes remains in place and that the executive order establishes the process going forward.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    President Trump signed an executive order on Monday to drastically reduce the regulatory burden on U.S. businesses, requiring federal agencies to effectively eliminate at least two regulations for each new one issued.

    “We have to knock out a regulation for every two, but it goes far beyond that. This is a big one,” said Trump, in signing the order that makes good on his "one in-two out" campaign promise.

    Trump has signed more than a dozen executive orders in his first 11 days in office.

    The order Monday specifically states that prior regulations must be “identified for elimination” when a new rule is put forward. However, the 900-word order makes clear that the costs associated with new regulations each year cannot go up. So they would have to be offset by eliminating “costs associated with at least two prior regulations.”

    For fiscal 2017, Trump told agency heads that the total cost of new regulations finalized this year "shall be no greater than zero" unless otherwise directed.

    “It is essential to manage the costs associated with the governmental imposition of private expenditures required to comply with federal regulations,” the document also states.

    “We will begin efforts to reduce federal regulations. We’ll be reducing them big time,” Trump said in concluding a White House meeting with small business owners before signing the order.

    The military, national security and foreign affairs are exempt from the order, which puts the Office of Management and Budget in charge of the changes.

    Agencies must present OMB with new regulations and show what is slated for elimination. However, the order offers some flexibility: allowing agencies to determine the cuts, maintaining White House input and giving the OMB director authority to make emergency exceptions.

    An administration official told Fox News that a recently issued White House memo on temporary regulation freezes remains in place and that the executive order establishes the process going forward.

    Why is this necessary given Trump ran on "no new regulations"?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,459 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    President Trump signed an executive order on Monday to drastically reduce the regulatory burden on U.S. businesses, requiring federal agencies to effectively eliminate at least two regulations for each new one issued.

    “We have to knock out a regulation for every two, but it goes far beyond that. This is a big one,” said Trump, in signing the order that makes good on his "one in-two out" campaign promise.

    Trump has signed more than a dozen executive orders in his first 11 days in office.

    The order Monday specifically states that prior regulations must be “identified for elimination” when a new rule is put forward. However, the 900-word order makes clear that the costs associated with new regulations each year cannot go up. So they would have to be offset by eliminating “costs associated with at least two prior regulations.”

    For fiscal 2017, Trump told agency heads that the total cost of new regulations finalized this year "shall be no greater than zero" unless otherwise directed.

    “It is essential to manage the costs associated with the governmental imposition of private expenditures required to comply with federal regulations,” the document also states.

    “We will begin efforts to reduce federal regulations. We’ll be reducing them big time,” Trump said in concluding a White House meeting with small business owners before signing the order.

    The military, national security and foreign affairs are exempt from the order, which puts the Office of Management and Budget in charge of the changes.

    Agencies must present OMB with new regulations and show what is slated for elimination. However, the order offers some flexibility: allowing agencies to determine the cuts, maintaining White House input and giving the OMB director authority to make emergency exceptions.

    An administration official told Fox News that a recently issued White House memo on temporary regulation freezes remains in place and that the executive order establishes the process going forward.

    Why is this necessary given Trump ran on "no new regulations"?
    We have to knock out a regulation for every two, but it goes far beyond that. This is a big one,” said Trump, in signing the order that makes good on his "one in-two out" campaign promise.


    Sounds like hondo is lying again
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    President Trump signed an executive order on Monday to drastically reduce the regulatory burden on U.S. businesses, requiring federal agencies to effectively eliminate at least two regulations for each new one issued.

    “We have to knock out a regulation for every two, but it goes far beyond that. This is a big one,” said Trump, in signing the order that makes good on his "one in-two out" campaign promise.

    Trump has signed more than a dozen executive orders in his first 11 days in office.

    The order Monday specifically states that prior regulations must be “identified for elimination” when a new rule is put forward. However, the 900-word order makes clear that the costs associated with new regulations each year cannot go up. So they would have to be offset by eliminating “costs associated with at least two prior regulations.”

    For fiscal 2017, Trump told agency heads that the total cost of new regulations finalized this year "shall be no greater than zero" unless otherwise directed.

    “It is essential to manage the costs associated with the governmental imposition of private expenditures required to comply with federal regulations,” the document also states.

    “We will begin efforts to reduce federal regulations. We’ll be reducing them big time,” Trump said in concluding a White House meeting with small business owners before signing the order.

    The military, national security and foreign affairs are exempt from the order, which puts the Office of Management and Budget in charge of the changes.

    Agencies must present OMB with new regulations and show what is slated for elimination. However, the order offers some flexibility: allowing agencies to determine the cuts, maintaining White House input and giving the OMB director authority to make emergency exceptions.

    An administration official told Fox News that a recently issued White House memo on temporary regulation freezes remains in place and that the executive order establishes the process going forward.

    Why is this necessary given Trump ran on "no new regulations"?
    We have to knock out a regulation for every two, but it goes far beyond that. This is a big one,” said Trump, in signing the order that makes good on his "one in-two out" campaign promise.


    Sounds like hondo is lying again
    It's almost like Trump changed his campaign promises daily.

    Issue a temporary moratorium on new agency regulations that are not compelled by Congress or public safety in order to give our American companies the certainty they need to reinvest in our community, get cash off of the sidelines, start hiring again, and expanding businesses. We will no longer regulate our companies and our jobs out of existence.

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/regulations
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    President Trump signed an executive order on Monday to drastically reduce the regulatory burden on U.S. businesses, requiring federal agencies to effectively eliminate at least two regulations for each new one issued.

    “We have to knock out a regulation for every two, but it goes far beyond that. This is a big one,” said Trump, in signing the order that makes good on his "one in-two out" campaign promise.

    Trump has signed more than a dozen executive orders in his first 11 days in office.

    The order Monday specifically states that prior regulations must be “identified for elimination” when a new rule is put forward. However, the 900-word order makes clear that the costs associated with new regulations each year cannot go up. So they would have to be offset by eliminating “costs associated with at least two prior regulations.”

    For fiscal 2017, Trump told agency heads that the total cost of new regulations finalized this year "shall be no greater than zero" unless otherwise directed.

    “It is essential to manage the costs associated with the governmental imposition of private expenditures required to comply with federal regulations,” the document also states.

    “We will begin efforts to reduce federal regulations. We’ll be reducing them big time,” Trump said in concluding a White House meeting with small business owners before signing the order.

    The military, national security and foreign affairs are exempt from the order, which puts the Office of Management and Budget in charge of the changes.

    Agencies must present OMB with new regulations and show what is slated for elimination. However, the order offers some flexibility: allowing agencies to determine the cuts, maintaining White House input and giving the OMB director authority to make emergency exceptions.

    An administration official told Fox News that a recently issued White House memo on temporary regulation freezes remains in place and that the executive order establishes the process going forward.

    Disagree
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Nothing is wrong with the statements in the article.

    True. If you have a 5 year old's understanding of cost-benefit analysis, pricing externalities, and CBO's historical economic analytics. I can see why you are not bothered.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,496 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    President Trump signed an executive order on Monday to drastically reduce the regulatory burden on U.S. businesses, requiring federal agencies to effectively eliminate at least two regulations for each new one issued.

    “We have to knock out a regulation for every two, but it goes far beyond that. This is a big one,” said Trump, in signing the order that makes good on his "one in-two out" campaign promise.

    Trump has signed more than a dozen executive orders in his first 11 days in office.

    The order Monday specifically states that prior regulations must be “identified for elimination” when a new rule is put forward. However, the 900-word order makes clear that the costs associated with new regulations each year cannot go up. So they would have to be offset by eliminating “costs associated with at least two prior regulations.”

    For fiscal 2017, Trump told agency heads that the total cost of new regulations finalized this year "shall be no greater than zero" unless otherwise directed.

    “It is essential to manage the costs associated with the governmental imposition of private expenditures required to comply with federal regulations,” the document also states.

    “We will begin efforts to reduce federal regulations. We’ll be reducing them big time,” Trump said in concluding a White House meeting with small business owners before signing the order.

    The military, national security and foreign affairs are exempt from the order, which puts the Office of Management and Budget in charge of the changes.

    Agencies must present OMB with new regulations and show what is slated for elimination. However, the order offers some flexibility: allowing agencies to determine the cuts, maintaining White House input and giving the OMB director authority to make emergency exceptions.

    An administration official told Fox News that a recently issued White House memo on temporary regulation freezes remains in place and that the executive order establishes the process going forward.

    coming up with an arbitrary number as to how many are "knocked out" when one is introduced. so when we find out that coal runoff is poisoning the water supply, we need to eliminate 2 regulations in order to address that. this is how a child thinks.
    HTH
    Agreed. The appropriate ratio is likely much higher.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    dhdawg said:

    President Trump signed an executive order on Monday to drastically reduce the regulatory burden on U.S. businesses, requiring federal agencies to effectively eliminate at least two regulations for each new one issued.

    “We have to knock out a regulation for every two, but it goes far beyond that. This is a big one,” said Trump, in signing the order that makes good on his "one in-two out" campaign promise.

    Trump has signed more than a dozen executive orders in his first 11 days in office.

    The order Monday specifically states that prior regulations must be “identified for elimination” when a new rule is put forward. However, the 900-word order makes clear that the costs associated with new regulations each year cannot go up. So they would have to be offset by eliminating “costs associated with at least two prior regulations.”

    For fiscal 2017, Trump told agency heads that the total cost of new regulations finalized this year "shall be no greater than zero" unless otherwise directed.

    “It is essential to manage the costs associated with the governmental imposition of private expenditures required to comply with federal regulations,” the document also states.

    “We will begin efforts to reduce federal regulations. We’ll be reducing them big time,” Trump said in concluding a White House meeting with small business owners before signing the order.

    The military, national security and foreign affairs are exempt from the order, which puts the Office of Management and Budget in charge of the changes.

    Agencies must present OMB with new regulations and show what is slated for elimination. However, the order offers some flexibility: allowing agencies to determine the cuts, maintaining White House input and giving the OMB director authority to make emergency exceptions.

    An administration official told Fox News that a recently issued White House memo on temporary regulation freezes remains in place and that the executive order establishes the process going forward.

    coming up with an arbitrary number as to how many are "knocked out" when one is introduced. so when we find out that coal runoff is poisoning the water supply, we need to eliminate 2 regulations in order to address that. this is how a child thinks.
    HTH
    Agreed. The appropriate ratio is likely much higher.
    Could very well be. Why not real analysis determine the cost and benefits of regulations and decide based on rationality and facts. As the OP stated, this is just more mindless troompism.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,942 Standard Supporter

    President Trump signed an executive order on Monday to drastically reduce the regulatory burden on U.S. businesses, requiring federal agencies to effectively eliminate at least two regulations for each new one issued.

    “We have to knock out a regulation for every two, but it goes far beyond that. This is a big one,” said Trump, in signing the order that makes good on his "one in-two out" campaign promise.

    Trump has signed more than a dozen executive orders in his first 11 days in office.

    The order Monday specifically states that prior regulations must be “identified for elimination” when a new rule is put forward. However, the 900-word order makes clear that the costs associated with new regulations each year cannot go up. So they would have to be offset by eliminating “costs associated with at least two prior regulations.”

    For fiscal 2017, Trump told agency heads that the total cost of new regulations finalized this year "shall be no greater than zero" unless otherwise directed.

    “It is essential to manage the costs associated with the governmental imposition of private expenditures required to comply with federal regulations,” the document also states.

    “We will begin efforts to reduce federal regulations. We’ll be reducing them big time,” Trump said in concluding a White House meeting with small business owners before signing the order.

    The military, national security and foreign affairs are exempt from the order, which puts the Office of Management and Budget in charge of the changes.

    Agencies must present OMB with new regulations and show what is slated for elimination. However, the order offers some flexibility: allowing agencies to determine the cuts, maintaining White House input and giving the OMB director authority to make emergency exceptions.

    An administration official told Fox News that a recently issued White House memo on temporary regulation freezes remains in place and that the executive order establishes the process going forward.

    Brilliant disguise, Tequila.
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