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  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    dhdawg said:


    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    good. so when is he gonna walk back this stupid idea of a border wall
    He's not, but I bet the wall will end up covering a lot less of the border than people think. The value of the wall is more symbolism than anything...people wanting to come here from Central America are going to hear about the wall and immigration enforcement over and over, and the result of that will be fewer making the attempt to go through Mexico and cross.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    You are giving Trump way too much credit. Trump means what he says, except when he doesn't. Even he doesn't know when he's going to walk back on his own words. He's done nothing but escalate the popular vote loss.

    In case you have noticed, when challenged, Trump gets more outrageous rather than make a reasonable compromise.
    You are a perfect example of my point. He's has done a ton that should outrage the Left, and all morons like you keep talking about is the popular vote. The media and left keep looking at the shiny object to the left while he keeps punching in the face with his right.

    Heck, look at the immigration executive orders he signed today which didn't even go all the way into enforcing current law. Much less than all the rhetoric on the campaign trail but still enough to piss folks like you off, and yet morons like you are still talking about the popular vote.

    But do continue on pontificating with your speed limit IQ...
    It was awesome watching conservatives sites gloating while liberals went "meh".
    Yeah...this board has been a great example. Liberals have been going "meh" and certain individuals haven't been starting four or five nutjob threads a day whining about Trump...right HondoFS.

    God you are a moron.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    dhdawg said:


    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    good. so when is he gonna walk back this stupid idea of a border wall
    He's not, but I bet the wall will end up covering a lot less of the border than people think. The value of the wall is more symbolism than anything...people wanting to come here from Central America are going to hear about the wall and immigration enforcement over and over, and the result of that will be fewer making the attempt to go through Mexico and cross.
    Agree.

    Trump lies a lot after all.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978

    dhdawg said:


    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    good. so when is he gonna walk back this stupid idea of a border wall
    He's not, but I bet the wall will end up covering a lot less of the border than people think. The value of the wall is more symbolism than anything...people wanting to come here from Central America are going to hear about the wall and immigration enforcement over and over, and the result of that will be fewer making the attempt to go through Mexico and cross.
    Agree.

    Trump lies a lot after all.
    Not sure how it's a lie. Spending $15 billion on a wall that I'm sure will look 'big and beautiful' in certain spots (esp for pictures), will help reduce illegal immigration (some directly from being there but mostly for the symbolism), and gives him an excuse to also put some sort of tax/fee on imports from Mexico which then also allows him to declare victory on improving NAFTA all seems to fall into what he said he would do.

  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    dhdawg said:


    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    good. so when is he gonna walk back this stupid idea of a border wall
    He's not, but I bet the wall will end up covering a lot less of the border than people think. The value of the wall is more symbolism than anything...people wanting to come here from Central America are going to hear about the wall and immigration enforcement over and over, and the result of that will be fewer making the attempt to go through Mexico and cross.
    Agree.

    Trump lies a lot after all.
    Not sure how it's a lie. Spending $15 billion on a wall that I'm sure will look 'big and beautiful' in certain spots (esp for pictures), will help reduce illegal immigration (some directly from being there but mostly for the symbolism), and gives him an excuse to also put some sort of tax/fee on imports from Mexico which then also allows him to declare victory on improving NAFTA all seems to fall into what he said he would do.

    No, it fucking won't.

    Ever heard of a ladder, or a tunnel?

    How about a fucking airplane?
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    dhdawg said:


    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    good. so when is he gonna walk back this stupid idea of a border wall
    He's not, but I bet the wall will end up covering a lot less of the border than people think. The value of the wall is more symbolism than anything...people wanting to come here from Central America are going to hear about the wall and immigration enforcement over and over, and the result of that will be fewer making the attempt to go through Mexico and cross.
    Agree.

    Trump lies a lot after all.
    Not sure how it's a lie. Spending $15 billion on a wall that I'm sure will look 'big and beautiful' in certain spots (esp for pictures), will help reduce illegal immigration (some directly from being there but mostly for the symbolism), and gives him an excuse to also put some sort of tax/fee on imports from Mexico which then also allows him to declare victory on improving NAFTA all seems to fall into what he said he would do.

    When will you stop sucking Trumpkin's dick?
  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    dhdawg said:


    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    good. so when is he gonna walk back this stupid idea of a border wall
    He's not, but I bet the wall will end up covering a lot less of the border than people think. The value of the wall is more symbolism than anything...people wanting to come here from Central America are going to hear about the wall and immigration enforcement over and over, and the result of that will be fewer making the attempt to go through Mexico and cross.
    Agree.

    Trump lies a lot after all.
    Not sure how it's a lie. Spending $15 billion on a wall that I'm sure will look 'big and beautiful' in certain spots (esp for pictures), will help reduce illegal immigration (some directly from being there but mostly for the symbolism), and gives him an excuse to also put some sort of tax/fee on imports from Mexico which then also allows him to declare victory on improving NAFTA all seems to fall into what he said he would do.

    When will you stop sucking Trumpkin's dick?
    When will you stop being a liberal lap dog?
  • AlCzervikAlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774
    So yesterday Mexico was going to pay for his wall

    dhdawg said:


    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    good. so when is he gonna walk back this stupid idea of a border wall
    He's not, but I bet the wall will end up covering a lot less of the border than people think.
    Huh? For $25 million I'd like it to cover all of the border please.

    Yeah, Trump has this all under control.
  • AlCzervikAlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    dhdawg said:


    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    good. so when is he gonna walk back this stupid idea of a border wall
    He's not, but I bet the wall will end up covering a lot less of the border than people think. The value of the wall is more symbolism than anything...people wanting to come here from Central America are going to hear about the wall and immigration enforcement over and over, and the result of that will be fewer making the attempt to go through Mexico and cross.
    Agree.

    Trump lies a lot after all.
    Not sure how it's a lie. Spending $15 billion on a wall that I'm sure will look 'big and beautiful' in certain spots (esp for pictures), will help reduce illegal immigration (some directly from being there but mostly for the symbolism), and gives him an excuse to also put some sort of tax/fee on imports from Mexico which then also allows him to declare victory on improving NAFTA all seems to fall into what he said he would do.

    $25 million actually ... for something you admit will be effective only symbolically.

    Smart.

  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978

    dhdawg said:


    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    good. so when is he gonna walk back this stupid idea of a border wall
    He's not, but I bet the wall will end up covering a lot less of the border than people think. The value of the wall is more symbolism than anything...people wanting to come here from Central America are going to hear about the wall and immigration enforcement over and over, and the result of that will be fewer making the attempt to go through Mexico and cross.
    Agree.

    Trump lies a lot after all.
    Not sure how it's a lie. Spending $15 billion on a wall that I'm sure will look 'big and beautiful' in certain spots (esp for pictures), will help reduce illegal immigration (some directly from being there but mostly for the symbolism), and gives him an excuse to also put some sort of tax/fee on imports from Mexico which then also allows him to declare victory on improving NAFTA all seems to fall into what he said he would do.

    When will you stop sucking Trumpkin's dick?
    Awww....another example of HondoFS's Liberals being "meh"?

    Although I agree with what he's doing on it, where again am I the one getting emotional and worked up over it? I'm just saying what I think will happen...everything I said is a pretty much a measurable item in a couple of years. It will either happen or not, and he can be judged then accordingly. Pretty stupid to get all emotional about it on a message board, or post incessantly on FaceBook about it (God I do hate FaceBook).
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    You are giving Trump way too much credit. Trump means what he says, except when he doesn't. Even he doesn't know when he's going to walk back on his own words. He's done nothing but escalate the popular vote loss.

    In case you have noticed, when challenged, Trump gets more outrageous rather than make a reasonable compromise.
    You are a perfect example of my point. He's has done a ton that should outrage the Left, and all morons like you keep talking about is the popular vote. The media and left keep looking at the shiny object to the left while he keeps punching in the face with his right.

    Heck, look at the immigration executive orders he signed today which didn't even go all the way into enforcing current law. Much less than all the rhetoric on the campaign trail but still enough to piss folks like you off, and yet morons like you are still talking about the popular vote.

    But do continue on pontificating with your speed limit IQ...
    It was awesome watching conservatives sites gloating while liberals went "meh".
    Yeah...this board has been a great example. Liberals have been going "meh" and certain individuals haven't been starting four or five nutjob threads a day whining about Trump...right HondoFS.

    God you are a moron.
    Yet you do the double post on a nutjob thread.

    And where do I whine? I post this shit to make fun of Trump. Nothing Trump does will effect me until tax reform, and then it should be a net positive. Even if he kills Obamacare, my medical insurance will go up from $150 a month to $170 or something.

    And no the border wall is dumb. A large portion of people who are here illegally overstayed their visa. Not to mention there's been a net migration out of Mexicans the last 8 years. It's called finding a solution to a problem that doesn't exist to rally up the base. And the minions like you eat it up. Liberals just shake their head.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,183 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    You are giving Trump way too much credit. Trump means what he says, except when he doesn't. Even he doesn't know when he's going to walk back on his own words. He's done nothing but escalate the popular vote loss.

    In case you have noticed, when challenged, Trump gets more outrageous rather than make a reasonable compromise.
    You are a perfect example of my point. He's has done a ton that should outrage the Left, and all morons like you keep talking about is the popular vote. The media and left keep looking at the shiny object to the left while he keeps punching in the face with his right.

    Heck, look at the immigration executive orders he signed today which didn't even go all the way into enforcing current law. Much less than all the rhetoric on the campaign trail but still enough to piss folks like you off, and yet morons like you are still talking about the popular vote.

    But do continue on pontificating with your speed limit IQ...
    It was awesome watching conservatives sites gloating while liberals went "meh".
    Yeah...this board has been a great example. Liberals have been going "meh" and certain individuals haven't been starting four or five nutjob threads a day whining about Trump...right HondoFS.

    God you are a moron.
    Yet you do the double post on a nutjob thread.

    And where do I whine? I post this shit to make fun of Trump. Nothing Trump does will effect me until tax reform, and then it should be a net positive. Even if he kills Obamacare, my medical insurance will go up from $150 a month to $170 or something.

    And no the border wall is dumb. A large portion of people who are here illegally overstayed their visa. Not to mention there's been a net migration out of Mexicans the last 8 years. It's called finding a solution to a problem that doesn't exist to rally up the base. And the minions like you eat it up. Liberals just shake their head.
    You mean like transgender bathroom outrage?

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    You are giving Trump way too much credit. Trump means what he says, except when he doesn't. Even he doesn't know when he's going to walk back on his own words. He's done nothing but escalate the popular vote loss.

    In case you have noticed, when challenged, Trump gets more outrageous rather than make a reasonable compromise.
    You are a perfect example of my point. He's has done a ton that should outrage the Left, and all morons like you keep talking about is the popular vote. The media and left keep looking at the shiny object to the left while he keeps punching in the face with his right.

    Heck, look at the immigration executive orders he signed today which didn't even go all the way into enforcing current law. Much less than all the rhetoric on the campaign trail but still enough to piss folks like you off, and yet morons like you are still talking about the popular vote.

    But do continue on pontificating with your speed limit IQ...
    It was awesome watching conservatives sites gloating while liberals went "meh".
    Yeah...this board has been a great example. Liberals have been going "meh" and certain individuals haven't been starting four or five nutjob threads a day whining about Trump...right HondoFS.

    God you are a moron.
    Yet you do the double post on a nutjob thread.

    And where do I whine? I post this shit to make fun of Trump. Nothing Trump does will effect me until tax reform, and then it should be a net positive. Even if he kills Obamacare, my medical insurance will go up from $150 a month to $170 or something.

    And no the border wall is dumb. A large portion of people who are here illegally overstayed their visa. Not to mention there's been a net migration out of Mexicans the last 8 years. It's called finding a solution to a problem that doesn't exist to rally up the base. And the minions like you eat it up. Liberals just shake their head.
    You mean like transgender bathroom outrage?

    Actually yes. That's another example where the conservative meltdown was worse than liberal outrage.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    This is simple. The wall makes it harder for them to get in and easier to track where they crossed so you can run them down. You then pass a law that if they are caught here illegally they can not become a U.S. citizen EVER! They will leave all on their own in droves.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Sledog said:

    This is simple. The wall makes it harder for them to get in and easier to track where they crossed so you can run them down. You then pass a law that if they are caught here illegally they can not become a U.S. citizen EVER! They will leave all on their own in droves.

    LOLWUT.

  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,297 Founders Club

    Countries won't stop importing to the US. The US is the largest market in the world for imports. It's a strength that we are finally using to our advantage.

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  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    I don't see the point of this. Are there even any goods that come from Mexico that can't be manufactured or grown elsewhere?

    Genuine Tequila.
    tl dr
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited January 2017

    Countries won't stop importing to the US.

    Agreed, but who pays the 20% tariff?
    The consumer. But if the consumer can find the same product that wasn't imported from Mexico, cheaper, then they will buy that product. And after awhile when the exports are a small percentage of what they used to be, Mexico may want to play ball and get serious about border security.

    That's the plan anyway. Whether it works or not... But the impact to the our economy will not be adverse.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited January 2017

    Nobody said that.

    I pointed out the oddity of democrats giving a shit about the consumer having costs passed on.

    Every regulation and tax and green bullshit idea gets passed on.

    Water is wet. If you don't like Trump negotiating better trade deals for America just say so. Stop with the bullshit.

    You have to anal yze the benefits of more jobs versus the negative of hondo not being able to afford those cool Mexican trade goods whatever the fuck they are.

    We also have better environmental laws in America than Mexico. Another reason to bring the plants home

    Where the cost of those environmental laws get passed on to the consumer.

    Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    But how are Americans economically illiterate?
    Reading your posts gives us several clues

    Most of you aren't near as smart as you think you are
    I'm sure you believe that.
    There's the fag with the Husky avatar again.

    Bottom line is that we import little from Mexico that we can't get somewhere else. And when their exports to the good ol USA start to dry up, they will ring Trumps unsecure bag phone and be willing to get serious about border security.

    Oh and we may end up with a few thousand more jobs here as well.

    Terrible stuff I know.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    salemcoog said:

    Nobody said that.

    I pointed out the oddity of democrats giving a shit about the consumer having costs passed on.

    Every regulation and tax and green bullshit idea gets passed on.

    Water is wet. If you don't like Trump negotiating better trade deals for America just say so. Stop with the bullshit.

    You have to anal yze the benefits of more jobs versus the negative of hondo not being able to afford those cool Mexican trade goods whatever the fuck they are.

    We also have better environmental laws in America than Mexico. Another reason to bring the plants home

    Where the cost of those environmental laws get passed on to the consumer.

    Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    But how are Americans economically illiterate?
    Reading your posts gives us several clues

    Most of you aren't near as smart as you think you are
    I'm sure you believe that.
    There's the fag with the Husky avatar again.

    Bottom line is that we import little from Mexico that we can't get somewhere else. And when their exports to the good ol USA start to dry up, they will ring Trumps unsecure bag phone and be willing to get serious about border security.

    Oh and we may end up with a few thousand more jobs here as well.

    Terrible stuff I know.
    We important a lot of stuff from Mexico for a reason.

    Also, their President has beaten our President twice now.




    SAD!
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