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Trump is a tax and spend liberal

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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited January 2017
    This is a mostly meaningless conversation. Just because trump is for it doesn't mean congressional republicans will all of s sudden sign off on 20% tariffs.

    This wall is just going to be a useless 10 billion dollar land grab (he will have to use eminent domain to complete it) that the taxpayers will foot the bill for
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,872 Founders Club
    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    My biggest problem with Trump so far, and populism in general, is this trade war bullshit. Major unions start sidling up to a president is as bad a sign as any.

    You don't say?
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do

    Where did Spicer get $50B? We import $270.6B annually, and a lot of that are components for shit we end up exporting to other countries (car parts, electronics, etc). So not only to Americans pay the tariff, we'll see our exports drop as their prices increase.

    Higher prices, less exports = recession. Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    Not to mention the fact that adding a tax on a single country is a violation of WTO agreements. Or does Trump want to join North Korea and Palestine as the only countries to not take part in the WTO?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Nobody said that.

    I pointed out the oddity of democrats giving a shit about the consumer having costs passed on.

    Every regulation and tax and green bullshit idea gets passed on.

    Water is wet. If you don't like Trump negotiating better trade deals for America just say so. Stop with the bullshit.

    You have to anal yze the benefits of more jobs versus the negative of hondo not being able to afford those cool Mexican trade goods whatever the fuck they are.

    We also have better environmental laws in America than Mexico. Another reason to bring the plants home

    Where the cost of those environmental laws get passed on to the consumer.

    Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    But how are Americans economically illiterate?
    Reading your posts gives us several clues

    Most of you aren't near as smart as you think you are
    I'm sure you believe that.
    That's funny as shit.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,872 Founders Club

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do

    Where did Spicer get $50B? We import $270.6B annually, and a lot of that are components for shit we end up exporting to other countries (car parts, electronics, etc). So not only to Americans pay the tariff, we'll see our exports drop as their prices increase.

    Higher prices, less exports = recession. Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    Not to mention the fact that adding a tax on a single country is a violation of WTO agreements. Or does Trump want to join North Korea and Palestine as the only countries to not take part in the WTO?
    Since you're so smart you probably know the difference between the trade deficit and the total imports.

    Right?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,720 Standard Supporter

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do

    Where did Spicer get $50B? We import $270.6B annually, and a lot of that are components for shit we end up exporting to other countries (car parts, electronics, etc). So not only to Americans pay the tariff, we'll see our exports drop as their prices increase.

    Higher prices, less exports = recession. Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    Not to mention the fact that adding a tax on a single country is a violation of WTO agreements. Or does Trump want to join North Korea and Palestine as the only countries to not take part in the WTO?
    UN, WTO, NAFTA and any other fucking alphabet soup organization that we usually end up on the short end of the stick. Somehow I think they'll all still want our money.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,872 Founders Club
    The concept of America looking out for America will take some getting used to.

    They'll come around.

    What the world really needs is a safe place to park capital and that is America. Its great for the high end real estate development biz
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do

    Where did Spicer get $50B? We import $270.6B annually, and a lot of that are components for shit we end up exporting to other countries (car parts, electronics, etc). So not only to Americans pay the tariff, we'll see our exports drop as their prices increase.

    Higher prices, less exports = recession. Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    Not to mention the fact that adding a tax on a single country is a violation of WTO agreements. Or does Trump want to join North Korea and Palestine as the only countries to not take part in the WTO?
    Since you're so smart you probably know the difference between the trade deficit and the total imports.

    Right?
    Is this your weird way of saying Spicer was talking about only applying tariffs to the trade deficit? It makes even less sense if that's he's talking about.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    Sledog said:

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do

    Where did Spicer get $50B? We import $270.6B annually, and a lot of that are components for shit we end up exporting to other countries (car parts, electronics, etc). So not only to Americans pay the tariff, we'll see our exports drop as their prices increase.

    Higher prices, less exports = recession. Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    Not to mention the fact that adding a tax on a single country is a violation of WTO agreements. Or does Trump want to join North Korea and Palestine as the only countries to not take part in the WTO?
    UN, WTO, NAFTA and any other fucking alphabet soup organization that we usually end up on the short end of the stick. Somehow I think they'll all still want our money.
    When did the right turn into Eugene Anarchists?

    And drop out of the UN when the US is one of 5 countries with absolute veto power?