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  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Sledog said:

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do

    Where did Spicer get $50B? We import $270.6B annually, and a lot of that are components for shit we end up exporting to other countries (car parts, electronics, etc). So not only to Americans pay the tariff, we'll see our exports drop as their prices increase.

    Higher prices, less exports = recession. Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    Not to mention the fact that adding a tax on a single country is a violation of WTO agreements. Or does Trump want to join North Korea and Palestine as the only countries to not take part in the WTO?
    UN, WTO, NAFTA and any other fucking alphabet soup organization that we usually end up on the short end of the stick. Somehow I think they'll all still want our money.
    NAFTA isn't an organization
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    The carpet layer is getting owned this year.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do

    Where did Spicer get $50B? We import $270.6B annually, and a lot of that are components for shit we end up exporting to other countries (car parts, electronics, etc). So not only to Americans pay the tariff, we'll see our exports drop as their prices increase.

    Higher prices, less exports = recession. Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    Not to mention the fact that adding a tax on a single country is a violation of WTO agreements. Or does Trump want to join North Korea and Palestine as the only countries to not take part in the WTO?
    UN, WTO, NAFTA and any other fucking alphabet soup organization that we usually end up on the short end of the stick. Somehow I think they'll all still want our money.
    When did the right turn into Eugene Anarchists?

    And drop out of the UN when the US is one of 5 countries with absolute veto power?
    The UN is anti-America and anti-Israel. Time to end it. It's corrupt and adversarial to our goals.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    Sledog said:

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do

    Where did Spicer get $50B? We import $270.6B annually, and a lot of that are components for shit we end up exporting to other countries (car parts, electronics, etc). So not only to Americans pay the tariff, we'll see our exports drop as their prices increase.

    Higher prices, less exports = recession. Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    Not to mention the fact that adding a tax on a single country is a violation of WTO agreements. Or does Trump want to join North Korea and Palestine as the only countries to not take part in the WTO?
    UN, WTO, NAFTA and any other fucking alphabet soup organization that we usually end up on the short end of the stick. Somehow I think they'll all still want our money.
    NAFTA isn't an organization
    Close enough.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do

    Where did Spicer get $50B? We import $270.6B annually, and a lot of that are components for shit we end up exporting to other countries (car parts, electronics, etc). So not only to Americans pay the tariff, we'll see our exports drop as their prices increase.

    Higher prices, less exports = recession. Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    Not to mention the fact that adding a tax on a single country is a violation of WTO agreements. Or does Trump want to join North Korea and Palestine as the only countries to not take part in the WTO?
    UN, WTO, NAFTA and any other fucking alphabet soup organization that we usually end up on the short end of the stick. Somehow I think they'll all still want our money.
    When did the right turn into Eugene Anarchists?

    And drop out of the UN when the US is one of 5 countries with absolute veto power?
    The UN is anti-America and anti-Israel. Time to end it. It's corrupt and adversarial to our goals.
    America and Israel have both grown tremendously while the UN has been around.


    But still.
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do

    Where did Spicer get $50B? We import $270.6B annually, and a lot of that are components for shit we end up exporting to other countries (car parts, electronics, etc). So not only to Americans pay the tariff, we'll see our exports drop as their prices increase.

    Higher prices, less exports = recession. Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    Not to mention the fact that adding a tax on a single country is a violation of WTO agreements. Or does Trump want to join North Korea and Palestine as the only countries to not take part in the WTO?
    UN, WTO, NAFTA and any other fucking alphabet soup organization that we usually end up on the short end of the stick. Somehow I think they'll all still want our money.
    When did the right turn into Eugene Anarchists?

    And drop out of the UN when the US is one of 5 countries with absolute veto power?
    The UN is anti-America and anti-Israel. Time to end it. It's corrupt and adversarial to our goals.
    You Jewish?
  • DeepSeaZDeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901

    My biggest problem with Trump so far, and populism in general, is this trade war bullshit. Major unions start sidling up to a president is as bad a sign as any.

    Some of those unions are going to be pissed when countries stop importing their goods.
    doogie said:

    DeepSeaZ said:

    My biggest problem with Trump so far, and populism in general, is this trade war bullshit. Major unions start sidling up to a president is as bad a sign as any.

    Some of those unions are going to be pissed when countries stop importing their goods.
    They're certainly free to develop their own economic superiority ( unless of course, they happen to be European)
    I meant they would stop importing US goods.
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    The Trumpster Fire begins!
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do

    Where did Spicer get $50B? We import $270.6B annually, and a lot of that are components for shit we end up exporting to other countries (car parts, electronics, etc). So not only to Americans pay the tariff, we'll see our exports drop as their prices increase.

    Higher prices, less exports = recession. Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    Not to mention the fact that adding a tax on a single country is a violation of WTO agreements. Or does Trump want to join North Korea and Palestine as the only countries to not take part in the WTO?
    UN, WTO, NAFTA and any other fucking alphabet soup organization that we usually end up on the short end of the stick. Somehow I think they'll all still want our money.
    When did the right turn into Eugene Anarchists?

    And drop out of the UN when the US is one of 5 countries with absolute veto power?
    The UN is anti-America and anti-Israel. Time to end it. It's corrupt and adversarial to our goals.
    You Jewish?
    No. Retarded,
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    Interesting... Do continue!
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    He keeps changing his mind.

    He has no plan.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer mentioned the possibility to reporters on Air Force One Thursday, as relations between Trump and his Mexican counterpart Enrique Pena Nieto spiraled.


    "When you look at the plan that's taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico," Spicer said.

    "If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is by the way a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country's policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous," he said. "By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding."


    Might be a little early to panic. dhdawg is partially right you know. But meaningless conversation is what we do

    Where did Spicer get $50B? We import $270.6B annually, and a lot of that are components for shit we end up exporting to other countries (car parts, electronics, etc). So not only to Americans pay the tariff, we'll see our exports drop as their prices increase.

    Higher prices, less exports = recession. Make sense? TRUMP sense!

    Not to mention the fact that adding a tax on a single country is a violation of WTO agreements. Or does Trump want to join North Korea and Palestine as the only countries to not take part in the WTO?
    UN, WTO, NAFTA and any other fucking alphabet soup organization that we usually end up on the short end of the stick. Somehow I think they'll all still want our money.
    When did the right turn into Eugene Anarchists?

    And drop out of the UN when the US is one of 5 countries with absolute veto power?
    The UN is anti-America and anti-Israel. Time to end it. It's corrupt and adversarial to our goals.
    You Jewish?
    No. What's that have to do with anything? You mooselimb?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    You are giving Trump way too much credit. Trump means what he says, except when he doesn't. Even he doesn't know when he's going to walk back on his own words. He's done nothing but escalate the popular vote loss.

    In case you have noticed, when challenged, Trump gets more outrageous rather than make a reasonable compromise.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    good. so when is he gonna walk back this stupid idea of a border wall
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    2001400ex said:

    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    You are giving Trump way too much credit. Trump means what he says, except when he doesn't. Even he doesn't know when he's going to walk back on his own words. He's done nothing but escalate the popular vote loss.

    In case you have noticed, when challenged, Trump gets more outrageous rather than make a reasonable compromise.
    You are a perfect example of my point. He's has done a ton that should outrage the Left, and all morons like you keep talking about is the popular vote. The media and left keep looking at the shiny object to the left while he keeps punching in the face with his right.

    Heck, look at the immigration executive orders he signed today which didn't even go all the way into enforcing current law. Much less than all the rhetoric on the campaign trail but still enough to piss folks like you off, and yet morons like you are still talking about the popular vote.

    But do continue on pontificating with your speed limit IQ...
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    You are giving Trump way too much credit. Trump means what he says, except when he doesn't. Even he doesn't know when he's going to walk back on his own words. He's done nothing but escalate the popular vote loss.

    In case you have noticed, when challenged, Trump gets more outrageous rather than make a reasonable compromise.
    You are a perfect example of my point. He's has done a ton that should outrage the Left, and all morons like you keep talking about is the popular vote. The media and left keep looking at the shiny object to the left while he keeps punching in the face with his right.

    Heck, look at the immigration executive orders he signed today which didn't even go all the way into enforcing current law. Much less than all the rhetoric on the campaign trail but still enough to piss folks like you off, and yet morons like you are still talking about the popular vote.

    But do continue on pontificating with your speed limit IQ...
    Um no. The media can chase all the shiny lights at once. The reality is, the executive orders are largely symbolic and don't accomplish much. Then the conservative media overstates it to try to troll liberals. Like the "no more fed funds paying for abortions". It was awesome watching conservatives sites gloating while liberals went "meh".
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    2001400ex said:

    Dude....Trump is playing the media and a bunch of fools (like the ones freaking out in this thread) like a fiddle. We import something like $300 billion a year from Mexico...20% is $60 billion/year. The wall will probably cost, what $20 billion or so over several years?

    Float a trial balloon like this, morons freak out, and then he'll propose some alternative actual policy which is something much less and with this initial anchor out there to compare against will seem very reasonable and most people will support.

    The first week has been comedy in just seeing how people react to him...

    You are giving Trump way too much credit. Trump means what he says, except when he doesn't. Even he doesn't know when he's going to walk back on his own words. He's done nothing but escalate the popular vote loss.

    In case you have noticed, when challenged, Trump gets more outrageous rather than make a reasonable compromise.
    You are a perfect example of my point. He's has done a ton that should outrage the Left, and all morons like you keep talking about is the popular vote. The media and left keep looking at the shiny object to the left while he keeps punching in the face with his right.

    Heck, look at the immigration executive orders he signed today which didn't even go all the way into enforcing current law. Much less than all the rhetoric on the campaign trail but still enough to piss folks like you off, and yet morons like you are still talking about the popular vote.

    But do continue on pontificating with your speed limit IQ...
    He's signed a bunch of expected executive orders.

    He hasn't really done anything noteworthy yet.
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