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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,634 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How many GOP were represented in the two polls?

    Trump isn't well liked by the GOP either.
    Answer the question
    You know the answer shitbreath.
    So the pole is shit like Trump said

    Thanks for playing
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    How many GOP were represented in the two polls?



    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/01/16/trump.2.pdf

    "METHODOLOGY

    A total of 1,000 adults were interviewed by telephone nationwide by live interviewers calling both landline and cell phones.

    Among the entire sample, 32% described themselves as Democrats, 24% described themselves as Republicans, and 44% described themselves as independents or members of another party."
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,634 Founders Club

    How many GOP were represented in the two polls?



    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/01/16/trump.2.pdf

    "METHODOLOGY

    A total of 1,000 adults were interviewed by telephone nationwide by live interviewers calling both landline and cell phones.

    Among the entire sample, 32% described themselves as Democrats, 24% described themselves as Republicans, and 44% described themselves as independents or members of another party."
    Exactly

    And 81% of independents are democrats who are too embarrassed to admit it

    The story isn't that by the time of the election the polls had tightened to fool the hondo's of the world, the story is the polls showing hillary up by double digits headed to an electoral college landslide for most of 2016

    This is a similar method.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't trump win independents?
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    edited January 2017

    How many GOP were represented in the two polls?



    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/01/16/trump.2.pdf

    "METHODOLOGY

    A total of 1,000 adults were interviewed by telephone nationwide by live interviewers calling both landline and cell phones.

    Among the entire sample, 32% described themselves as Democrats, 24% described themselves as Republicans, and 44% described themselves as independents or members of another party."
    Exactly

    And 81% of independents are democrats who are too embarrassed to admit it

    The story isn't that by the time of the election the polls had tightened to fool the hondo's of the world, the story is the polls showing hillary up by double digits headed to an electoral college landslide for most of 2016

    This is a similar method.

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    Most polls were well within their margin of error by election day. Hillary won the popular vote by 2.1%.

    image

    I highlighted the ones that were outside of +-3%.

    It looks to me that most polls overvalued the impact of Johnson and Stein. Both performed way under what they were polling. Both Clinton and Trump got a higher percentage than originally predicted.

    image

    Electoral college models definitely weren't accurate, but even then we are talking about a couple tenths of a percent in a handful of states.

    Regardless, the 1000 person sample is pretty representative of how Americans currently identify with political parties. The latest Gallup poll has it as Rep:28%, Dem: 25%, Ind:44%.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680


    Electoral college models definitely weren't accurate, but even then we are talking about a couple tenths of a percent in a handful of states.

    That's the real story from the polling error, but I imagine it's not easy to model scenarios where a candidate wins the EC while losing the popular vote by 2%.

    Nate Silver at least brought up the possibility.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    Approval polls are more of a popularity poll. People personally liked Obama based on polls but hated his policies. More people dislike trump as a person, of course his approval numbers will be down. Many people approved of Obama on the polls because they didn't want to be seen as racist by the pollsters.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Approval polls are more of a popularity poll. People personally liked Obama based on polls but hated his policies. More people dislike trump as a person, of course his approval numbers will be down. Many people approved of Obama on the polls because they didn't want to be seen as racist by the pollsters.

    Almost accurate. Obama's approval numbers went up at the end because he looked great compared to the shitshow of candidates that lined up to replace him.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    How many GOP were represented in the two polls?



    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/01/16/trump.2.pdf

    "METHODOLOGY

    A total of 1,000 adults were interviewed by telephone nationwide by live interviewers calling both landline and cell phones.

    Among the entire sample, 32% described themselves as Democrats, 24% described themselves as Republicans, and 44% described themselves as independents or members of another party."
    Exactly

    And 81% of independents are democrats who are too embarrassed to admit it

    The story isn't that by the time of the election the polls had tightened to fool the hondo's of the world, the story is the polls showing hillary up by double digits headed to an electoral college landslide for most of 2016

    This is a similar method.
    ------

    Most polls were well within their margin of error by election day. Hillary won the popular vote by 2.1%.

    image

    I highlighted the ones that were outside of +-3%.

    It looks to me that most polls overvalued the impact of Johnson and Stein. Both performed way under what they were polling. Both Clinton and Trump got a higher percentage than originally predicted.

    image

    Electoral college models definitely weren't accurate, but even then we are talking about a couple tenths of a percent in a handful of states.

    Regardless, the 1000 person sample is pretty representative of how Americans currently identify with political parties. The latest Gallup poll has it as Rep:28%, Dem: 25%, Ind:44%.

    Hillary actually won the popular by more than 2.1% look at the total, she only won by 2.1 million there when the final tally was 2.9 million. So really the polls were closer than RCP notes.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    How many GOP were represented in the two polls?



    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/01/16/trump.2.pdf

    "METHODOLOGY

    A total of 1,000 adults were interviewed by telephone nationwide by live interviewers calling both landline and cell phones.

    Among the entire sample, 32% described themselves as Democrats, 24% described themselves as Republicans, and 44% described themselves as independents or members of another party."
    Exactly

    And 81% of independents are democrats who are too embarrassed to admit it

    The story isn't that by the time of the election the polls had tightened to fool the hondo's of the world, the story is the polls showing hillary up by double digits headed to an electoral college landslide for most of 2016

    This is a similar method.

    Why are you so pissed that your dude is not popular? It's not a good look for you Race.