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  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,538 Swaye's Wigwam
    It will be special watching the Ducks lose to UW twice in the same season.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Mosster47 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    tenndawg said:



    His job is only to end the shitshow that Slingblade created and at least point the ship in the right direction. Don't know where it goes from there.

    ====÷÷===

    A bit off topic, but there's a couple avatars I wouldn't mind dating...yours is definitely not one of them, even if she is dead and couldn't tell anyone...

    ÷÷÷==÷÷

    And we all know what it's like to have high hopes for a new coach - you lie to yourself, you ignore red flags...

    I think Chip Kelly and the Nike uniform explosion were kind of cool, far from convinced Taggart will get you back there

    It's not like he's won everywhere he's been, basically one good season (last year) and that's it

    Guess we shall see
    Willie had the exact same four year trajectory at USF that Jim Harbaugh had at Stanford. Every Doog on here would line up to gargle Harbaugh balls.

    I understand that USF and Stanford are different situations, but USF had never really been good before. This season was probably their best one in school history.

    In no way am I saying Willie is Harbaugh, but Harbaugh isn't great either. I would take very good, which Harbaugh is that.
    Harbaugh is one of the greats. Doog and quook alike would line up to gargle his balls .
    The greats have won a major conference championship.....like once.
    The NFC is a major conference
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,018 Founders Club

    Mosster47 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    tenndawg said:



    His job is only to end the shitshow that Slingblade created and at least point the ship in the right direction. Don't know where it goes from there.

    ====÷÷===

    A bit off topic, but there's a couple avatars I wouldn't mind dating...yours is definitely not one of them, even if she is dead and couldn't tell anyone...

    ÷÷÷==÷÷

    And we all know what it's like to have high hopes for a new coach - you lie to yourself, you ignore red flags...

    I think Chip Kelly and the Nike uniform explosion were kind of cool, far from convinced Taggart will get you back there

    It's not like he's won everywhere he's been, basically one good season (last year) and that's it

    Guess we shall see
    Willie had the exact same four year trajectory at USF that Jim Harbaugh had at Stanford. Every Doog on here would line up to gargle Harbaugh balls.

    I understand that USF and Stanford are different situations, but USF had never really been good before. This season was probably their best one in school history.

    In no way am I saying Willie is Harbaugh, but Harbaugh isn't great either. I would take very good, which Harbaugh is that.
    Harbaugh is one of the greats. Doog and quook alike would line up to gargle his balls .
    The greats have won a major conference championship.....like once.
    The NFC is a major conference
    Its a division championship
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    Mosster47 said:

    Mosster47 said:

    tenndawg said:



    His job is only to end the shitshow that Slingblade created and at least point the ship in the right direction. Don't know where it goes from there.

    ====÷÷===

    A bit off topic, but there's a couple avatars I wouldn't mind dating...yours is definitely not one of them, even if she is dead and couldn't tell anyone...

    ÷÷÷==÷÷

    And we all know what it's like to have high hopes for a new coach - you lie to yourself, you ignore red flags...

    I think Chip Kelly and the Nike uniform explosion were kind of cool, far from convinced Taggart will get you back there

    It's not like he's won everywhere he's been, basically one good season (last year) and that's it

    Guess we shall see
    Willie had the exact same four year trajectory at USF that Jim Harbaugh had at Stanford. Every Doog on here would line up to gargle Harbaugh balls.

    I understand that USF and Stanford are different situations, but USF had never really been good before. This season was probably their best one in school history.

    In no way am I saying Willie is Harbaugh, but Harbaugh isn't great either. I would take very good, which Harbaugh is that.
    Harbaugh is one of the greats. Doog and quook alike would line up to gargle his balls .
    The greats have won a major conference championship.....like once.
    The NFC is a major conference
    NFL success has nothing to do with college success and vice versa.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,262
    tenndawg said:

    Mosster47 said:

    It's hard to talk too much shit about Taggart so far.

    No it's not - the entire universe exists just so we can talk shit about it - why would he be exempt ?"
    exactly.
  • TommySQCTommySQC Member Posts: 5,813
    Mosster47 said:

    Swaye said:

    Mosster47 said:

    tenndawg said:



    His job is only to end the shitshow that Slingblade created and at least point the ship in the right direction. Don't know where it goes from there.

    ====÷÷===

    A bit off topic, but there's a couple avatars I wouldn't mind dating...yours is definitely not one of them, even if she is dead and couldn't tell anyone...

    ÷÷÷==÷÷

    And we all know what it's like to have high hopes for a new coach - you lie to yourself, you ignore red flags...

    I think Chip Kelly and the Nike uniform explosion were kind of cool, far from convinced Taggart will get you back there

    It's not like he's won everywhere he's been, basically one good season (last year) and that's it

    Guess we shall see
    Willie had the exact same four year trajectory at USF that Jim Harbaugh had at Stanford. Every Doog on here would line up to gargle Harbaugh balls.

    I understand that USF and Stanford are different situations, but USF had never really been good before. This season was probably their best one in school history.

    In no way am I saying Willie is Harbaugh, but Harbaugh isn't great either. I would take very good, which Harbaugh is that.
    Look, Faggert may turn out to be great, but you sound like every fucking Doog alive the week after Tryone and Sark were hired. Trying to justify a shit hire. Maybe he will be good, but it is more likely he will suck. But no need to justify anything. You didn't get a big name. It happens (to us repeatedly)...maybe you will get lucky, maybe not, but all this talk just is just silly.
    I'm not trying to justify anything. What someone did prior to the position they have now means very little. The gaggle of previous guys at Boise State had Peterman success and were pretty awful when they left. The guy after Peterman is doing very well. Peterman could have been a total flop at UW.

    No one has a fucking clue what a coach is going to do. You can only judge a new coach by the staff he hires and his recruiting effort.

    He just hired a guy that won D-Coordinator of the year. He just offered Bama's O-line coach. He is after Wazzu's D-line coach who has done a great job despite having to recruit to Pullman for a head coach that hates defense.

    Nothing, and I mean nothing that Willie Taggart has done so far would suggest he is a shitty hire. Doogs want him to he a shitty hire, but nothing suggests that it is. Slingblade being a complete fucking retard (hence the name I gave him) is why Oregon won four games. A decent coach beats Nebraska, Colorado, ASU, Cal, Utah, and OSU last year. That's 8 wins. You watched Stanford do this in living color this year. They were a young, shitty team and got USC before Darnold so they were gifted one.

    The Ducks return just about everyone for the next three years. Just a decent coach has them to 10 wins by 2018. ASU, UA, Cal, and UCLA are about to go through coaching changes and all four will fuck it up. Stanford will lose Shaw probably this year. The Pirate will leave Pullman soon.

    The Pac-12 fucking sucks. If your AD is serious and you have a decent coaching staff you're going to win a shit ton of games, i.e. Mike Bellotti.
    God this sounds like AuburnDawg circa 2005

    Jim Leavett is awesome because Colorado defense was decent one year?

    Did Bama's OL coach come? Did WSU's coach Joe come?


    UW offered Rueben Foster once too.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,299 Founders Club

    Mosster47 said:

    Swaye said:

    Mosster47 said:

    tenndawg said:



    His job is only to end the shitshow that Slingblade created and at least point the ship in the right direction. Don't know where it goes from there.

    ====÷÷===

    A bit off topic, but there's a couple avatars I wouldn't mind dating...yours is definitely not one of them, even if she is dead and couldn't tell anyone...

    ÷÷÷==÷÷

    And we all know what it's like to have high hopes for a new coach - you lie to yourself, you ignore red flags...

    I think Chip Kelly and the Nike uniform explosion were kind of cool, far from convinced Taggart will get you back there

    It's not like he's won everywhere he's been, basically one good season (last year) and that's it

    Guess we shall see
    Willie had the exact same four year trajectory at USF that Jim Harbaugh had at Stanford. Every Doog on here would line up to gargle Harbaugh balls.

    I understand that USF and Stanford are different situations, but USF had never really been good before. This season was probably their best one in school history.

    In no way am I saying Willie is Harbaugh, but Harbaugh isn't great either. I would take very good, which Harbaugh is that.
    Look, Faggert may turn out to be great, but you sound like every fucking Doog alive the week after Tryone and Sark were hired. Trying to justify a shit hire. Maybe he will be good, but it is more likely he will suck. But no need to justify anything. You didn't get a big name. It happens (to us repeatedly)...maybe you will get lucky, maybe not, but all this talk just is just silly.
    I'm not trying to justify anything. What someone did prior to the position they have now means very little. The gaggle of previous guys at Boise State had Peterman success and were pretty awful when they left. The guy after Peterman is doing very well. Peterman could have been a total flop at UW.

    No one has a fucking clue what a coach is going to do. You can only judge a new coach by the staff he hires and his recruiting effort.

    He just hired a guy that won D-Coordinator of the year. He just offered Bama's O-line coach. He is after Wazzu's D-line coach who has done a great job despite having to recruit to Pullman for a head coach that hates defense.

    Nothing, and I mean nothing that Willie Taggart has done so far would suggest he is a shitty hire. Doogs want him to he a shitty hire, but nothing suggests that it is. Slingblade being a complete fucking retard (hence the name I gave him) is why Oregon won four games. A decent coach beats Nebraska, Colorado, ASU, Cal, Utah, and OSU last year. That's 8 wins. You watched Stanford do this in living color this year. They were a young, shitty team and got USC before Darnold so they were gifted one.

    The Ducks return just about everyone for the next three years. Just a decent coach has them to 10 wins by 2018. ASU, UA, Cal, and UCLA are about to go through coaching changes and all four will fuck it up. Stanford will lose Shaw probably this year. The Pirate will leave Pullman soon.

    The Pac-12 fucking sucks. If your AD is serious and you have a decent coaching staff you're going to win a shit ton of games, i.e. Mike Bellotti.
    He is 40-45. Rebuilding, blah, blah... That's a bad record.
    I advise LIPO in this case. The "mediocre" label could have been mistakenly hung on Saban at MSU. And no, I'm not saying Taggart is Saban. Taggart's BS.V2.0 pressers automatically raise a flag as behavior antithetical to that of coaches like Saban and Meyer, but that, and his "mediocre" record shouldn't automatically disqualify the guy. I think you have to dig a little deeper, and of course, wait to see what happens on the sidelines and on the field over the next three years.

    IMO Taggart is a good coach who understands what it takes to field good teams. Can he pull it off at Oregon? We'll see. He did so at USF, but also in fairness, there is so much talent in the state of Florida that one can build a solid team with sloppy seconds and thirds who were passed over by Florida, Florida State and Miami. Oregon does not have that luxury. They have to recruit outside their immediate region to be successful, and now they have to do so with a real UW, USC, UCLA and Stanford presence. And of course, recruiting is only step one. Coaching matters. Putting the right pieces in place matters. Standards matter. Culture matters. Player development matters. Attention to detail and game day coaching matter, yada yada yada and so on. Again, we'll see, as always LIPO.
  • DawgFaderDawgFader Member Posts: 1,414
    Willie seems like the type of guy that would fall for the old banana in the tail pipe.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,299 Founders Club
    DawgFader said:

    Willie seems like the type of guy that would fall for the old banana in the tail pipe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HktV2yGtLv8
  • IPukeOregonGrellowIPukeOregonGrellow Member Posts: 2,183
    Carrington staying to go along with Freeman and Crosby. If he's black Sark, that's 30 stars worth of recruits in addition to whatever he ends up landing.

    Pay no attention to the fact that all three lost millions in draft value last year.

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,886
    The problem that Oregon has IMO isn't Taggert but it's about how they differentiate themselves going forward ...

    Washington is in a great position as long as Pete is here to the point that he's taking the best players out of Oregon ...

    USC is USC and while I'm still on the side that Clay Helton sucks they'll get a ton of free pub out of winning the Rose Bowl that will sustain them for at least the next couple of years recruiting ...

    Stanford will still be Stanford as long as David Shaw is there churning out his 9-10 win seasons ...

    UCLA will still recruit LA/SoCal well regardless of what they have as a coach ...

    So what's Oregon's angle? They don't have in-state recruiting ... and even what is in-state not only are they losing North but Oregon St isn't a push over program under Anderson. Spread offenses are a dime a dozen now so it's not like they are recruiting a unique athlete like nobody else is recruiting. Unlike the Arizona schools and to a lesser extent Colorado, being able to recruit Texas is more of a stretch for Oregon. Is Taggert a brand enough name as a coach to be able to recruit nationally like Oregon was able to do for a very brief moment of time?

    Barring a truly elite big name coach, this was always going to be a difficult job for whoever Oregon hired ... until it plays out I'm not sure how much of Oregon's downfall will be able to be laid at the feet of Taggert (assuming they go back to a 6-8 win program at best) versus it just being that they really did fill a void in the conference and were able to differentiate themselves for that period of time before those with the ability to shoot past them shot past them and put them back down the pecking order to where they belong?

  • DawgFaderDawgFader Member Posts: 1,414

    DawgFader said:

    Willie seems like the type of guy that would fall for the old banana in the tail pipe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HktV2yGtLv8
    Exactly!!! #THEREALWILLIETAGGART

  • IPukeOregonGrellowIPukeOregonGrellow Member Posts: 2,183
    edited January 2017
    Tequilla said:

    tl/dr
    So what's Oregon's angle?

    tl/dr

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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    Carrington staying to go along with Freeman and Crosby. If he's black Sark, that's 30 stars worth of recruits in addition to whatever he ends up landing.

    Pay no attention to the fact that all three lost millions in draft value last year.

    Carrington is a fucking clown. Smoking pot is more important than playing in the NCG. The sooner he leaves the better.
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Tequilla said:

    The problem that Oregon has IMO isn't Taggert but it's about how they differentiate themselves going forward ...

    Washington is in a great position as long as Pete is here to the point that he's taking the best players out of Oregon ...

    USC is USC and while I'm still on the side that Clay Helton sucks they'll get a ton of free pub out of winning the Rose Bowl that will sustain them for at least the next couple of years recruiting ...

    Stanford will still be Stanford as long as David Shaw is there churning out his 9-10 win seasons ...

    UCLA will still recruit LA/SoCal well regardless of what they have as a coach ...

    So what's Oregon's angle? They don't have in-state recruiting ... and even what is in-state not only are they losing North but Oregon St isn't a push over program under Anderson. Spread offenses are a dime a dozen now so it's not like they are recruiting a unique athlete like nobody else is recruiting. Unlike the Arizona schools and to a lesser extent Colorado, being able to recruit Texas is more of a stretch for Oregon. Is Taggert a brand enough name as a coach to be able to recruit nationally like Oregon was able to do for a very brief moment of time?

    Barring a truly elite big name coach, this was always going to be a difficult job for whoever Oregon hired ... until it plays out I'm not sure how much of Oregon's downfall will be able to be laid at the feet of Taggert (assuming they go back to a 6-8 win program at best) versus it just being that they really did fill a void in the conference and were able to differentiate themselves for that period of time before those with the ability to shoot past them shot past them and put them back down the pecking order to where they belong?

    Oregon hasn't been a 6-8 win at best program since Rich Brooks. Doogs think UW's shit show is somehow similar to Oregon. Don James quit and the AD and University stopped caring about football. Your facilities went to shit, you made stupid fucking hires and the one decent hire they did make they fired him over nothing. Peterman looks to be solid, but I would like to see him when at least one of the other 11 teams were trying.

    Slingblade and his geriatric assistants just didn't recruit very hard. That was fixed very quickly. Oregon is still a huge name nationally and they still have an AD and University that wants to win.

    Mike Bellotti, Chip Kelly, and Slingblade all had more 9 or more win seasons than 6-8 win seasons. If you think Oregon is going back to the times of where the meeting room was in the tunnel you're fucking dumb. UW will out recruit Oregon in the state of Oregon this year. The D-Tackle stings a little, but they're loaded at DB for this class already so Molden doesn't really matter.

    The Pac-12 sucks. A serious program will rebound instantly.
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    Mosster47 said:

    Swaye said:

    Mosster47 said:

    tenndawg said:



    His job is only to end the shitshow that Slingblade created and at least point the ship in the right direction. Don't know where it goes from there.

    ====÷÷===

    A bit off topic, but there's a couple avatars I wouldn't mind dating...yours is definitely not one of them, even if she is dead and couldn't tell anyone...

    ÷÷÷==÷÷

    And we all know what it's like to have high hopes for a new coach - you lie to yourself, you ignore red flags...

    I think Chip Kelly and the Nike uniform explosion were kind of cool, far from convinced Taggart will get you back there

    It's not like he's won everywhere he's been, basically one good season (last year) and that's it

    Guess we shall see
    Willie had the exact same four year trajectory at USF that Jim Harbaugh had at Stanford. Every Doog on here would line up to gargle Harbaugh balls.

    I understand that USF and Stanford are different situations, but USF had never really been good before. This season was probably their best one in school history.

    In no way am I saying Willie is Harbaugh, but Harbaugh isn't great either. I would take very good, which Harbaugh is that.
    Look, Faggert may turn out to be great, but you sound like every fucking Doog alive the week after Tryone and Sark were hired. Trying to justify a shit hire. Maybe he will be good, but it is more likely he will suck. But no need to justify anything. You didn't get a big name. It happens (to us repeatedly)...maybe you will get lucky, maybe not, but all this talk just is just silly.
    I'm not trying to justify anything. What someone did prior to the position they have now means very little. The gaggle of previous guys at Boise State had Peterman success and were pretty awful when they left. The guy after Peterman is doing very well. Peterman could have been a total flop at UW.

    No one has a fucking clue what a coach is going to do. You can only judge a new coach by the staff he hires and his recruiting effort.

    He just hired a guy that won D-Coordinator of the year. He just offered Bama's O-line coach. He is after Wazzu's D-line coach who has done a great job despite having to recruit to Pullman for a head coach that hates defense.

    Nothing, and I mean nothing that Willie Taggart has done so far would suggest he is a shitty hire. Doogs want him to he a shitty hire, but nothing suggests that it is. Slingblade being a complete fucking retard (hence the name I gave him) is why Oregon won four games. A decent coach beats Nebraska, Colorado, ASU, Cal, Utah, and OSU last year. That's 8 wins. You watched Stanford do this in living color this year. They were a young, shitty team and got USC before Darnold so they were gifted one.

    The Ducks return just about everyone for the next three years. Just a decent coach has them to 10 wins by 2018. ASU, UA, Cal, and UCLA are about to go through coaching changes and all four will fuck it up. Stanford will lose Shaw probably this year. The Pirate will leave Pullman soon.

    The Pac-12 fucking sucks. If your AD is serious and you have a decent coaching staff you're going to win a shit ton of games, i.e. Mike Bellotti.
    He is 40-45. Rebuilding, blah, blah... That's a bad record.
    Harbaugh was 29-21 at Stanford and you guys act like he was Pete Carroll or something.

    I would be willing to wager Taggart will have 29 wins with no division or conference title after four years. With the way you Doogs are talking Oregon is Stanford after 2006 bad.
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