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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Mosster47 said:

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    If Democrats were semi competent, they would find a way to regain the white working, lower middle, and much of the middle class by not acting like social justice warrior faggots at every turn. That's a big if of course.

    you'd think the republican message of cut social security, cut medicare, cut medicade, funnel lots of money to corporations and fight pointless wars would be easy to defeat. but the democrats can't. and when someone actually comes around with that message, they get smeared as a sexist like sanders was
    People are retarded, or ignorant, or vote on one or two issues, or all of the above. I can't really explain it. It doesn't help that the media does a terrible job of covering real issues in a competent way. Example: S.S. is going broke and it will be insolvent in 15 minutes (no, that's not really the case). How many people are really going to dig deeper? What's the percentage? It's probably in the single digits. People are working 50 hour weeks anyway and many don't have the time.

    It's not like the Democrats have been really helping the bottom 80 or 90% anyway.
    People love believing lies and voting against their own interests. The misinformation machine is especially strong in this country
    A guy I grew up down the street from is a drunk and a log truck driver. I asked him how much he will love Trump if he fucks up relations with China and we end up paying 30% more for the same stuff?

    His reply was "I'd rather do that than give it to the Mexicans."

    How do you reason with that? That's the same type of human that straps a bomb to his chest and runs into a diner screaming Admiral Akbar. You can't explain, change, or fix stupid.
    Being blatantly misinformed isn't exclusive to the right but shit like this is ridiculous.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/12/18/a-new-poll-shows-an-astonishing-52-of-republicans-think-trump-won-the-popular-vote/?utm_term=.da124a6ebf33
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    Swaye said:

    If Democrats were semi competent, they would find a way to regain the white working, lower middle, and much of the middle class by not acting like social justice warrior faggots at every turn. That's a big if of course.

    This. The SJW bullshit and identity politics is what put them in this spot. Get back to worrying about jobs and being tough liberal loggers and they will turn this around. But with Ellison and Warren getting all the party power right now, don't hold your breath. They are going all in on what killed them this cycle. Stupid is as stupid does.

    I'm not a fan of warren (became Hillary light) but I think you are wrong. the problem with the democrats is they became republican light on economics, are weak, and use SJW garbage to cover up their shitty policies. republican establishment sellouts do the same with gun rights and worthless social issues like gay marriage and drugs.

    Ellison is not perfect but would do a good job of rebuilding the party at the grassroots, because despite this smear job he's one of the most pro worker dems. he's too divisive to run for president tho.

    If tulsi gabbard runs in 2020 she would win in a landslide. the democratic economic platform is overwhelmingly popular according to every poll. they just need to run on it.

    I'm not gonna defend warren though. she sold out and has become a coward.
    I would more say that the Democrats lost cause they two candidates were a crotchety old white dude who screams like Samuel L Jackson and calls himself a socialist. And a woman with too many years in public service with too much to bash and basically stood there waiting for Trump to say stupid shit.

    As much as I'd like to think the election was about policy, Trump did a great job of taking policy completely out of the conversation. Even the debates, the discussion was about his racism and sexism and her emails.
    sanders I believe would have defeated trump. but the democrats would absolutely be best off running strong young progressives like tulsi gabbard, alan grayson, etc. young people were willing to flock to a strange looking 75 year old socialist because of his anti-establishment message, and the demographics are rapidly changing
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    WAPO invented 'fake news"
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,987 Founders Club
    How did the voters who were so smart in 08 and 12 get so stupid?

    It's a ridiculous argument as always

    But by all means keep trashing the voters. It worked great for Hillary

    Double down losers
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited December 2016

    How did the voters who were so smart in 08 and 12 get so stupid?

    It's a ridiculous argument as always

    But by all means keep trashing the voters. It worked great for Hillary

    Double down losers

    they didn't. voters are stupid. a lot of stupid people voted for obama. there are more stupid republican voters than stupid democratic voters tho. you can still win some of them over by not ignoring them like Hillary did.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    dhdawg said:

    If Democrats were semi competent, they would find a way to regain the white working, lower middle, and much of the middle class by not acting like social justice warrior faggots at every turn. That's a big if of course.

    you'd think the republican message of cut social security, cut medicare, cut medicade, funnel lots of money to corporations and fight pointless wars would be easy to defeat. but the democrats can't. and when someone actually comes around with that message, they get smeared as a sexist like sanders was
    People are retarded, or ignorant, or vote on one or two issues, or all of the above. I can't really explain it. It doesn't help that the media does a terrible job of covering real issues in a competent way. Example: S.S. is going broke and it will be insolvent in 15 minutes (no, that's not really the case). How many people are really going to dig deeper? What's the percentage? It's probably in the single digits. People are working 50 hour weeks anyway and many don't have the time.

    It's not like the Democrats have been really helping the bottom 80 or 90% anyway.
    Neither party is helping the middle class and poor. But I do chuckle at people who solely blame Obama for only 2% growth then don't realize that Congress was mostly controlled by Republicans the last 6 years.

    And think that reducing taxes on corporations and the 1% will get the middle class more money. FS.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited December 2016
    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    If Democrats were semi competent, they would find a way to regain the white working, lower middle, and much of the middle class by not acting like social justice warrior faggots at every turn. That's a big if of course.

    you'd think the republican message of cut social security, cut medicare, cut medicade, funnel lots of money to corporations and fight pointless wars would be easy to defeat. but the democrats can't. and when someone actually comes around with that message, they get smeared as a sexist like sanders was
    People are retarded, or ignorant, or vote on one or two issues, or all of the above. I can't really explain it. It doesn't help that the media does a terrible job of covering real issues in a competent way. Example: S.S. is going broke and it will be insolvent in 15 minutes (no, that's not really the case). How many people are really going to dig deeper? What's the percentage? It's probably in the single digits. People are working 50 hour weeks anyway and many don't have the time.

    It's not like the Democrats have been really helping the bottom 80 or 90% anyway.
    Neither party is helping the middle class and poor. But I do chuckle at people who solely blame Obama for only 2% growth then don't realize that Congress was mostly controlled by Republicans the last 6 years.

    And think that reducing taxes on corporations and the 1% will get the middle class more money. FS.
    or that if we repeal Obamacare that will fix this country's healthcare system
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,796 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:

    If Democrats were semi competent, they would find a way to regain the white working, lower middle, and much of the middle class by not acting like social justice warrior faggots at every turn. That's a big if of course.

    you'd think the republican message of cut social security, cut medicare, cut medicade, funnel lots of money to corporations and fight pointless wars would be easy to defeat. but the democrats can't. and when someone actually comes around with that message, they get smeared as a sexist like sanders was
    People are retarded, or ignorant, or vote on one or two issues, or all of the above. I can't really explain it. It doesn't help that the media does a terrible job of covering real issues in a competent way. Example: S.S. is going broke and it will be insolvent in 15 minutes (no, that's not really the case). How many people are really going to dig deeper? What's the percentage? It's probably in the single digits. People are working 50 hour weeks anyway and many don't have the time.

    It's not like the Democrats have been really helping the bottom 80 or 90% anyway.
    Neither party is helping the middle class and poor. But I do chuckle at people who solely blame Obama for only 2% growth then don't realize that Congress was mostly controlled by Republicans the last 6 years.

    And think that reducing taxes on corporations and the 1% will get the middle class more money. FS.
    That's because the Democrat controlled Congress passed Obunghole care without reading it and the Porkulous bill among other insanely stupid shit. The people voted them out. Obama vetoed most Republican legislation so yes it's all Odingo's fault.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    If you felt hopeless before the election, then you're a huge fucking pussy and you should haul your faggoty ass off to your safe place. We'll send the people that feel hopeless now to join you. Then hopefully someone will set all you whiny cunts on fire.
    If you ever feel hopeless, you're not an American. Just get the fuck out now. You may feel down but four years from now that shit can change too.

    And on an individual level, whoever wins or loses an election or a game or whatever has no fucking bearing on the direction of your life. Don't like where you're at, move. Don't like your job, get educated and get a new one. This isn't a caste system country. Do something besides trigger warning yourself

    Christ.
    Fucking.
    A.

  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Mosster47 said:

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    If Democrats were semi competent, they would find a way to regain the white working, lower middle, and much of the middle class by not acting like social justice warrior faggots at every turn. That's a big if of course.

    you'd think the republican message of cut social security, cut medicare, cut medicade, funnel lots of money to corporations and fight pointless wars would be easy to defeat. but the democrats can't. and when someone actually comes around with that message, they get smeared as a sexist like sanders was
    People are retarded, or ignorant, or vote on one or two issues, or all of the above. I can't really explain it. It doesn't help that the media does a terrible job of covering real issues in a competent way. Example: S.S. is going broke and it will be insolvent in 15 minutes (no, that's not really the case). How many people are really going to dig deeper? What's the percentage? It's probably in the single digits. People are working 50 hour weeks anyway and many don't have the time.

    It's not like the Democrats have been really helping the bottom 80 or 90% anyway.
    People love believing lies and voting against their own interests. The misinformation machine is especially strong in this country
    A guy I grew up down the street from is a drunk and a log truck driver. I asked him how much he will love Trump if he fucks up relations with China and we end up paying 30% more for the same stuff?

    His reply was "I'd rather do that than give it to the Mexicans."

    How do you reason with that? That's the same type of human that straps a bomb to his chest and runs into a diner screaming Admiral Akbar. You can't explain, change, or fix stupid.
    Mosster47 said:

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    If Democrats were semi competent, they would find a way to regain the white working, lower middle, and much of the middle class by not acting like social justice warrior faggots at every turn. That's a big if of course.

    you'd think the republican message of cut social security, cut medicare, cut medicade, funnel lots of money to corporations and fight pointless wars would be easy to defeat. but the democrats can't. and when someone actually comes around with that message, they get smeared as a sexist like sanders was
    People are retarded, or ignorant, or vote on one or two issues, or all of the above. I can't really explain it. It doesn't help that the media does a terrible job of covering real issues in a competent way. Example: S.S. is going broke and it will be insolvent in 15 minutes (no, that's not really the case). How many people are really going to dig deeper? What's the percentage? It's probably in the single digits. People are working 50 hour weeks anyway and many don't have the time.

    It's not like the Democrats have been really helping the bottom 80 or 90% anyway.
    People love believing lies and voting against their own interests. The misinformation machine is especially strong in this country
    A guy I grew up down the street from is a drunk and a log truck driver. I asked him how much he will love Trump if he fucks up relations with China and we end up paying 30% more for the same stuff?

    His reply was "I'd rather do that than give it to the Mexicans."

    How do you reason with that? That's the same type of human that straps a bomb to his chest and runs into a diner screaming Admiral Akbar. You can't explain, change, or fix stupid.
    If Trump can trigger 30% domestic inflation, the FED will name a building after him.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,093
    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    If you felt hopeless before the election, then you're a huge fucking pussy and you should haul your faggoty ass off to your safe place. We'll send the people that feel hopeless now to join you. Then hopefully someone will set all you whiny cunts on fire.
    If you ever feel hopeless, you're not an American. Just get the fuck out now. You may feel down but four years from now that shit can change too.

    And on an individual level, whoever wins or loses an election or a game or whatever has no fucking bearing on the direction of your life. Don't like where you're at, move. Don't like your job, get educated and get a new one. This isn't a caste system country. Do something besides trigger warning yourself

    Christ.
    Fucking.
    A.

    I was agreeing with you.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    If you felt hopeless before the election, then you're a huge fucking pussy and you should haul your faggoty ass off to your safe place. We'll send the people that feel hopeless now to join you. Then hopefully someone will set all you whiny cunts on fire.
    If you ever feel hopeless, you're not an American. Just get the fuck out now. You may feel down but four years from now that shit can change too.

    And on an individual level, whoever wins or loses an election or a game or whatever has no fucking bearing on the direction of your life. Don't like where you're at, move. Don't like your job, get educated and get a new one. This isn't a caste system country. Do something besides trigger warning yourself

    Christ.
    Fucking.
    A.

    I was agreeing with you.
    And I with you.

    Merry Christmas!
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,093
    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    If you felt hopeless before the election, then you're a huge fucking pussy and you should haul your faggoty ass off to your safe place. We'll send the people that feel hopeless now to join you. Then hopefully someone will set all you whiny cunts on fire.
    If you ever feel hopeless, you're not an American. Just get the fuck out now. You may feel down but four years from now that shit can change too.

    And on an individual level, whoever wins or loses an election or a game or whatever has no fucking bearing on the direction of your life. Don't like where you're at, move. Don't like your job, get educated and get a new one. This isn't a caste system country. Do something besides trigger warning yourself

    Christ.
    Fucking.
    A.

    I was agreeing with you.
    And I with you.

    Merry Christmas!
    We should cuddle now.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    If you felt hopeless before the election, then you're a huge fucking pussy and you should haul your faggoty ass off to your safe place. We'll send the people that feel hopeless now to join you. Then hopefully someone will set all you whiny cunts on fire.
    If you ever feel hopeless, you're not an American. Just get the fuck out now. You may feel down but four years from now that shit can change too.

    And on an individual level, whoever wins or loses an election or a game or whatever has no fucking bearing on the direction of your life. Don't like where you're at, move. Don't like your job, get educated and get a new one. This isn't a caste system country. Do something besides trigger warning yourself

    Christ.
    Fucking.
    A.

    I was agreeing with you.
    And I with you.

    Merry Christmas!
    We should cuddle now.
    You don't cuddle with a purple throbber...
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,167
    Mosster47 said:

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    If Democrats were semi competent, they would find a way to regain the white working, lower middle, and much of the middle class by not acting like social justice warrior faggots at every turn. That's a big if of course.

    you'd think the republican message of cut social security, cut medicare, cut medicade, funnel lots of money to corporations and fight pointless wars would be easy to defeat. but the democrats can't. and when someone actually comes around with that message, they get smeared as a sexist like sanders was
    People are retarded, or ignorant, or vote on one or two issues, or all of the above. I can't really explain it. It doesn't help that the media does a terrible job of covering real issues in a competent way. Example: S.S. is going broke and it will be insolvent in 15 minutes (no, that's not really the case). How many people are really going to dig deeper? What's the percentage? It's probably in the single digits. People are working 50 hour weeks anyway and many don't have the time.

    It's not like the Democrats have been really helping the bottom 80 or 90% anyway.
    People love believing lies and voting against their own interests. The misinformation machine is especially strong in this country
    A guy I grew up down the street from is a drunk and a log truck driver. I asked him how much he will love Trump if he fucks up relations with China and we end up paying 30% more for the same stuff?

    His reply was "I'd rather do that than give it to the Mexicans."

    How do you reason with that? That's the same type of human that straps a bomb to his chest and runs into a diner screaming Admiral Akbar. You can't explain, change, or fix stupid.
    Chinned based only on Admiral Akbar.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    If Democrats were semi competent, they would find a way to regain the white working, lower middle, and much of the middle class by not acting like social justice warrior faggots at every turn. That's a big if of course.

    you'd think the republican message of cut social security, cut medicare, cut medicade, funnel lots of money to corporations and fight pointless wars would be easy to defeat. but the democrats can't. and when someone actually comes around with that message, they get smeared as a sexist like sanders was
    Swaye said:

    dhdawg said:

    Swaye said:

    If Democrats were semi competent, they would find a way to regain the white working, lower middle, and much of the middle class by not acting like social justice warrior faggots at every turn. That's a big if of course.

    This. The SJW bullshit and identity politics is what put them in this spot. Get back to worrying about jobs and being tough liberal loggers and they will turn this around. But with Ellison and Warren getting all the party power right now, don't hold your breath. They are going all in on what killed them this cycle. Stupid is as stupid does.

    I'm not a fan of warren (became Hillary light) but I think you are wrong. the problem with the democrats is they became republican light on economics, are weak, and use SJW garbage to cover up their shitty policies. republican establishment sellouts do the same with gun rights and worthless social issues like gay marriage and drugs.

    Ellison is not perfect but would do a good job of rebuilding the party at the grassroots, because despite this smear job he's one of the most pro worker dems. he's too divisive to run for president tho.

    If tulsi gabbard runs in 2020 she would win in a landslide. the democratic economic platform is overwhelmingly popular according to every poll. they just need to run on it.

    I'm not gonna defend warren though. she sold out and has become a coward.
    Warren faked being an Indian, and while I can deal with a lot of shit, that's pretty low. She's a rank opportunist and so far left she fell off the map. Cunt. I disagree on Ellison...but I admit I don't follow him closely. He seems to be from the SJW side of the party, but maybe he will temper that. Don't get me wrong, I don;t want the Dems to get their shit together, but until they back off gun control and transgender bathrooms, the white middle class will continue to abandon them imo.
    Nobody of any class gives a fuck about transgender bathrooms. It's a fake issue for do-nothing democrats to embrace because they are too incompetent to tackle or solve any real problems that affect most people.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    Look at who he put in his cabinet.
    Con. Job.
    Trump is nothing more than a raging narcassust. He took advantage of this country just like he did with trump university, his businesses, etc
    True. So what does it say that he beat an even worse candidate?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2016
    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um, no. I'd venture to guess over half of trump voters don't even know what the UN is. Let alone any example of obama "submitting" to them
    Don't be a dick. It's that elitist attitude that lost you the election.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    Look at who he put in his cabinet.
    Con. Job.
    Trump is nothing more than a raging narcassust. He took advantage of this country just like he did with trump university, his businesses, etc
    True. So what does it say that he beat an even worse candidate?
    it was the worst campaign of all time. no question.

    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um, no. I'd venture to guess over half of trump voters don't even know what the UN is. Let alone any example of obama "submitting" to them
    Don't be a dick. It's that elitist attitude that lost you the election.
    maybe that was dickish. but this election was not about "surrendering to the UN." it was about one word, change. trump sold change that I believe was snake oil. but change nonetheless
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2016
    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    Look at who he put in his cabinet.
    Con. Job.
    Trump is nothing more than a raging narcassust. He took advantage of this country just like he did with trump university, his businesses, etc
    True. So what does it say that he beat an even worse candidate?
    it was the worst campaign of all time. no question.

    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um, no. I'd venture to guess over half of trump voters don't even know what the UN is. Let alone any example of obama "submitting" to them
    Don't be a dick. It's that elitist attitude that lost you the election.
    maybe that was dickish. but this election was not about "surrendering to the UN." it was about one word, change. trump sold change that I believe was snake oil. but change nonetheless
    In the same vein, people voted for whatever was behind door #2, instead of more Obama-Clinton "progressivism." I don't know what Trump will actually do. I didn't vote for the guy. But I smelled the stench of Clinton long, long ago, and I knew this election would be closer than people thought. I was stunned how forgiving and forgetful people were re: Clinton's record.

    The epitome of her terrible campaign was the "basket of deplorables" comment which alienated many of her own voters and wrote off a portion of the electorate. Americans hate that shit and punished Romney for saying something far less offensive in 2012, when he said that a large percentage of Obama voters "would never vote for a Republican." Even people who believe that don't want to be taken for granted. And even worse, all the networks repeated that phrase over and over, cementing the fact that most of the media was in the tank for Clinton and anti-Trump. Americans hate that shit, too. And it showed on election day.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    Look at who he put in his cabinet.
    Con. Job.
    Trump is nothing more than a raging narcassust. He took advantage of this country just like he did with trump university, his businesses, etc
    True. So what does it say that he beat an even worse candidate?
    It means the Democrats nominated a shitty candidate and there's tens of millions of stupid people who believed what Trump was selling.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    Look at who he put in his cabinet.
    Con. Job.
    Trump is nothing more than a raging narcassust. He took advantage of this country just like he did with trump university, his businesses, etc
    True. So what does it say that he beat an even worse candidate?
    It means the Democrats nominated a shitty candidate and there's tens of millions of stupid people who believed what Trump was selling.
    And millions of lazy, entitled millennials who Kaepernick'd it on election day.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    Look at who he put in his cabinet.
    Con. Job.
    Trump is nothing more than a raging narcassust. He took advantage of this country just like he did with trump university, his businesses, etc
    True. So what does it say that he beat an even worse candidate?
    It means the Democrats nominated a shitty candidate and there's tens of millions of stupid people who believed what Trump was selling.
    And millions of lazy, entitled millennials who Kaepernick'd it on election day.
    Yet Clinton won the popular vote by 2.9 million votes.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    Look at who he put in his cabinet.
    Con. Job.
    Trump is nothing more than a raging narcassust. He took advantage of this country just like he did with trump university, his businesses, etc
    True. So what does it say that he beat an even worse candidate?
    it was the worst campaign of all time. no question.

    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um, no. I'd venture to guess over half of trump voters don't even know what the UN is. Let alone any example of obama "submitting" to them
    Don't be a dick. It's that elitist attitude that lost you the election.
    maybe that was dickish. but this election was not about "surrendering to the UN." it was about one word, change. trump sold change that I believe was snake oil. but change nonetheless
    In the same vein, people voted for whatever was behind door #2, instead of more Obama-Clinton "progressivism." I don't know what Trump will actually do. I didn't vote for the guy. But I smelled the stench of Clinton long, long ago, and I knew this election would be closer than people thought. I was stunned how forgiving and forgetful people were re: Clinton's record.

    The epitome of her terrible campaign was the "basket of deplorables" comment which alienated many of her own voters and wrote off a portion of the electorate. Americans hate that shit and punished Romney for saying something far less offensive in 2012, when he said that a large percentage of Obama voters "would never vote for a Republican." Even people who believe that don't want to be taken for granted. And even worse, all the networks repeated that phrase over and over, cementing the fact that most of the media was in the tank for Clinton and anti-Trump. Americans hate that shit, too. And it showed on election day.
    You are pretty far out of touch with reality. The deplorables comment had nothing to do with her loss. Not to mention your comment on Romney, which didn't effect that outcome of that election either, is missing the 47% piece.

    Not to mention, your whole theory is out the window by the fact that Hillary won the popular vote. Hillary was a terrible candidate. But you can't say her record lost her the vote either cause Trump and Clinton had equally shitty histories for a presidential nominee. She lost because she basically chilled and expected Trump to fuck up.

    The media that you say were in the bag for Hillary gave Trump an exponential amount of free pub. The media chases shiny objects and Trump gave them the most fodder.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    @Hondo wrote: "You are pretty far out of touch with reality."

    And Irony meters everywhere went
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited December 2016

    @Hondo wrote: "You are pretty far out of touch with reality."

    And Irony meters everywhere went
    image

    Nice rebuttal. Informative as always.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,796 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    Look at who he put in his cabinet.
    Con. Job.
    Trump is nothing more than a raging narcassust. He took advantage of this country just like he did with trump university, his businesses, etc
    True. So what does it say that he beat an even worse candidate?
    It means the Democrats nominated a shitty candidate and there's tens of millions of stupid people who believed what Trump was selling.
    And millions of lazy, entitled millennials who Kaepernick'd it on election day.
    Yet Clinton won the popular vote by 2.9 million votes.
    That's why we have an electoral college so we are not the United State of California.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    dhdawg said:


    doogie said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    This election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama his policies and his silent surrender of the United States to UN authority.

    Americans know this. Hondo and the democrats are left pathetically trying to deny.

    Um no. But nice try. A lot of the middle class actually think Trump will provide them hope and change. There's lot of stupid motherfuckers in this country.
    Everyone with a functioning brain realizes Trump has restored hope to Americans. What are you missing?
    Look at who he put in his cabinet.
    Con. Job.
    Trump is nothing more than a raging narcassust. He took advantage of this country just like he did with trump university, his businesses, etc
    True. So what does it say that he beat an even worse candidate?
    It means the Democrats nominated a shitty candidate and there's tens of millions of stupid people who believed what Trump was selling.
    And millions of lazy, entitled millennials who Kaepernick'd it on election day.
    Yet Clinton won the popular vote by 2.9 million votes.
    That's why we have an electoral college so we are not the United State of California.
    Shhhhh. Hondo still believes we're a democracy.