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Why does j smith hate TEs?

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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    AIRWOLF said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    This is very far down the list from:

    1. Why does JSmith hate Myles Gaskin?
    2. Why does JSmith hate winning football?
    3. Why does JSmith hate wearing Polish peasant scarves?
    4. Why does JSmith hate Lavon Coleman?
    5. Why does JSmith hate Jake Browning's completion percentage and public reputation?
    6. Why does JSmith hate fitting scheme to personnel?
    7. Why does JSmith hate running with lead blockers?
    8. Why does JSmith hate running?
    9. Why does JSmith hate winning game plans?

    Etc.

    Lead blockers? What is this, 1995?

    Stanford and Michigan both love lead blockers and the old "man ball" I-formation stuff and both of their offenses have AIDS.

    The Husky offensive schemes are brilliant. The guy calling the plays and building the game plans is not.
    Their offenses are fine. Their QB's are shit. Stanford had one of the best offenses in the country last year.
    They had that despite the scheme, not because of it.

    Running antiquated I-formation offense is a handicap. When teams are successful with it, it is because their players are good enough to overcome it.

    Just my opinion, but I'm also right.
    You need elite personnel to make it work. Doesn't make it antiquated
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    RoadDawg55 said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    This is very far down the list from:

    1. Why does JSmith hate Myles Gaskin?
    2. Why does JSmith hate winning football?
    3. Why does JSmith hate wearing Polish peasant scarves?
    4. Why does JSmith hate Lavon Coleman?
    5. Why does JSmith hate Jake Browning's completion percentage and public reputation?
    6. Why does JSmith hate fitting scheme to personnel?
    7. Why does JSmith hate running with lead blockers?
    8. Why does JSmith hate running?
    9. Why does JSmith hate winning game plans?

    Etc.

    Lead blockers? What is this, 1995?

    Stanford and Michigan both love lead blockers and the old "man ball" I-formation stuff and both of their offenses have AIDS.

    The Husky offensive schemes are brilliant. The guy calling the plays and building the game plans is not.
    Their offenses are fine. Their QB's are shit. Stanford had one of the best offenses in the country last year.
    Like the Northwestern game?
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  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    RoadDawg55 said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    This is very far down the list from:

    1. Why does JSmith hate Myles Gaskin?
    2. Why does JSmith hate winning football?
    3. Why does JSmith hate wearing Polish peasant scarves?
    4. Why does JSmith hate Lavon Coleman?
    5. Why does JSmith hate Jake Browning's completion percentage and public reputation?
    6. Why does JSmith hate fitting scheme to personnel?
    7. Why does JSmith hate running with lead blockers?
    8. Why does JSmith hate running?
    9. Why does JSmith hate winning game plans?

    Etc.

    Lead blockers? What is this, 1995?

    Stanford and Michigan both love lead blockers and the old "man ball" I-formation stuff and both of their offenses have AIDS.

    The Husky offensive schemes are brilliant. The guy calling the plays and building the game plans is not.
    Their offenses are fine. Their QB's are shit. Stanford had one of the best offenses in the country last year.
    They had that despite the scheme, not because of it.

    Running antiquated I-formation offense is a handicap. When teams are successful with it, it is because their players are good enough to overcome it.

    Just my opinion, but I'm also right.
    You aren't right. Michigan is a top 5 team. Stanford has been one of the most successful programs in the country the past 7,8 years.

    Alabama just started running the spread this year and that is due to their QB. The good coaches fit schemes to the players.

    There are tons of shitty teams that run spread offenses.

    Running some plays out of the I is not a handicap. I like UW because they are multiple on offense.
    Michigan isn't a top whatever team because of its offense.

    And Bama could be extremely successful running the wishbone or single wing. Bama made it work isn't a good argument.

    Having a gold standard defense and elite players at every position gives teams the luxury to run shitty offenses.
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    AIRWOLF said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    This is very far down the list from:

    1. Why does JSmith hate Myles Gaskin?
    2. Why does JSmith hate winning football?
    3. Why does JSmith hate wearing Polish peasant scarves?
    4. Why does JSmith hate Lavon Coleman?
    5. Why does JSmith hate Jake Browning's completion percentage and public reputation?
    6. Why does JSmith hate fitting scheme to personnel?
    7. Why does JSmith hate running with lead blockers?
    8. Why does JSmith hate running?
    9. Why does JSmith hate winning game plans?

    Etc.

    Lead blockers? What is this, 1995?

    Stanford and Michigan both love lead blockers and the old "man ball" I-formation stuff and both of their offenses have AIDS.

    The Husky offensive schemes are brilliant. The guy calling the plays and building the game plans is not.
    Stanford and Michigan have AIDS infested offenses because they have shit QBs and over-utilize the "man ball" to the point of being predictable and easy to stop.

    Nobody is asking to transition to that. The basic identity of our offense is fine. What most of us have problems with is running a fucking end around to John Ross on 2nd and 1 when we're in rhythm and could easily jam it down the defense's throat for an easy first down. Misdirection and keeping a defense on its toes are great elements of an offense. But it hasn't dawned on our OC that it's okay to just line up every now and then in a basic formation and run right where the defense knows you're going to run it because you have the superior athletes and are going to buttfuck them with a high percentage play whether they like it or not.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    RoadDawg55 said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    This is very far down the list from:

    1. Why does JSmith hate Myles Gaskin?
    2. Why does JSmith hate winning football?
    3. Why does JSmith hate wearing Polish peasant scarves?
    4. Why does JSmith hate Lavon Coleman?
    5. Why does JSmith hate Jake Browning's completion percentage and public reputation?
    6. Why does JSmith hate fitting scheme to personnel?
    7. Why does JSmith hate running with lead blockers?
    8. Why does JSmith hate running?
    9. Why does JSmith hate winning game plans?

    Etc.

    Lead blockers? What is this, 1995?

    Stanford and Michigan both love lead blockers and the old "man ball" I-formation stuff and both of their offenses have AIDS.

    The Husky offensive schemes are brilliant. The guy calling the plays and building the game plans is not.
    Their offenses are fine. Their QB's are shit. Stanford had one of the best offenses in the country last year.
    They had that despite the scheme, not because of it.

    Running antiquated I-formation offense is a handicap. When teams are successful with it, it is because their players are good enough to overcome it.

    Just my opinion, but I'm also right.
    You aren't right. Michigan is a top 5 team. Stanford has been one of the most successful programs in the country the past 7,8 years.

    Alabama just started running the spread this year and that is due to their QB. The good coaches fit schemes to the players.

    There are tons of shitty teams that run spread offenses.

    Running some plays out of the I is not a handicap. I like UW because they are multiple on offense.
    Michigan isn't a top whatever team because of its offense.

    And Bama could be extremely successful running the wishbone or single wing. Bama made it work isn't a good argument.

    Having a gold standard defense and elite players at every position gives teams the luxury to run shitty offenses.
    Most teams run spread. Most offenses suck. HTH.
    The spread is garbage. @RoadDawg55 is right. @AIRWOLF loses this one.
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  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    This is very far down the list from:

    1. Why does JSmith hate Myles Gaskin?
    2. Why does JSmith hate winning football?
    3. Why does JSmith hate wearing Polish peasant scarves?
    4. Why does JSmith hate Lavon Coleman?
    5. Why does JSmith hate Jake Browning's completion percentage and public reputation?
    6. Why does JSmith hate fitting scheme to personnel?
    7. Why does JSmith hate running with lead blockers?
    8. Why does JSmith hate running?
    9. Why does JSmith hate winning game plans?

    Etc.

    Lead blockers? What is this, 1995?

    Stanford and Michigan both love lead blockers and the old "man ball" I-formation stuff and both of their offenses have AIDS.

    The Husky offensive schemes are brilliant. The guy calling the plays and building the game plans is not.
    Stanford and Michigan have AIDS infested offenses because they have shit QBs and over-utilize the "man ball" to the point of being predictable and easy to stop.

    Nobody is asking to transition to that. The basic identity of our offense is fine. What most of us have problems with is running a fucking end around to John Ross on 2nd and 1 when we're in rhythm and could easily jam it down the defense's throat for an easy first down. Misdirection and keeping a defense on its toes are great elements of an offense. But it hasn't dawned on our OC that it's okay to just line up every now and then in a basic formation and run right where the defense knows you're going to run it because you have the superior athletes and are going to buttfuck them with a high percentage play whether they like it or not.
    The Huskies actually do that a fair amount (and yeah, they should probably do it a little more), they just never do it from a basic I formation using 12 personnel.

    I guess I am stunned that there are so many people who fetishize fullbacks, the I-formation and Spider Y Banana. Almost nobody runs that stuff in HS and college for a reason. And even in the NFL, two-back I-formation sets are becoming relatively rare.
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  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    RoadDawg55 said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    AIRWOLF said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    This is very far down the list from:

    1. Why does JSmith hate Myles Gaskin?
    2. Why does JSmith hate winning football?
    3. Why does JSmith hate wearing Polish peasant scarves?
    4. Why does JSmith hate Lavon Coleman?
    5. Why does JSmith hate Jake Browning's completion percentage and public reputation?
    6. Why does JSmith hate fitting scheme to personnel?
    7. Why does JSmith hate running with lead blockers?
    8. Why does JSmith hate running?
    9. Why does JSmith hate winning game plans?

    Etc.

    Lead blockers? What is this, 1995?

    Stanford and Michigan both love lead blockers and the old "man ball" I-formation stuff and both of their offenses have AIDS.

    The Husky offensive schemes are brilliant. The guy calling the plays and building the game plans is not.
    Their offenses are fine. Their QB's are shit. Stanford had one of the best offenses in the country last year.
    They had that despite the scheme, not because of it.

    Running antiquated I-formation offense is a handicap. When teams are successful with it, it is because their players are good enough to overcome it.

    Just my opinion, but I'm also right.
    You aren't right. Michigan is a top 5 team. Stanford has been one of the most successful programs in the country the past 7,8 years.

    Alabama just started running the spread this year and that is due to their QB. The good coaches fit schemes to the players.

    There are tons of shitty teams that run spread offenses.

    Running some plays out of the I is not a handicap. I like UW because they are multiple on offense.
    Michigan isn't a top whatever team because of its offense.

    And Bama could be extremely successful running the wishbone or single wing. Bama made it work isn't a good argument.

    Having a gold standard defense and elite players at every position gives teams the luxury to run shitty offenses.
    Most teams run spread. Most offenses suck. HTH.
    This is a terrible argument, from a pure logic perspective.

    The bottom line is that whether you agree with my views on this or not, Petersen seems to. He is the real architect of this offense and I can't recall seeing the Huskies line up in a two back I-formation set more than once or twice since he has been here.

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