Big 12 to not add any new teams for now

DerekJohnson

larrybrownsports.com/college-football/big-12-not-adding-new-members/328811

doogsinparadise

Big TV is undefeated as usual.

TierbsHsotBoobs

That league dies in 9 years.

Meek

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

That league dies in 9 years.

unless they beat us out in the Chinese market.

Gladstone

Big 12 turned down expansion for BYU. Probably for the best since BYU ran for 900 yards in their home and home with UT a few years back.

Purple_Pills

Gladstone said:

Big 12 turned down expansion for BYU.

No major conference has ever wanted them. Not sure why Y thought it would be different this time around. Big 12-2 has been eyeing ACC teams to no avail. The only hope for that conference is buyers remorse from a few SEC teams. Pig, Aggie, & Mizzou fit right in traditionally and geographically.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Purple_Pills said:

Gladstone said:

Big 12 turned down expansion for BYU.

No major conference has ever wanted them. Not sure why Y thought it would be different this time around. Big 12-2 has been eyeing ACC teams to no avail. The only hope for that conference is buyers remorse from a few SEC teams. Pig, Aggie, & Mizzou fit right in traditionally and geographically.

You would have to seriously hate money to LEAVE the SEC

Purple_Pills

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

You would have to seriously hate money to LEAVE the SEC

What if the ESPN pay cable model collapses?

TierbsHsotBoobs

Purple_Pills said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

You would have to seriously hate money to LEAVE the SEC

What if the ESPN pay cable model collapses?

Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.

Purple_Pills

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.

I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.

FremontTroll

Purple_Pills said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.

I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.

Those purple pills must be some good shit.

doogsinparadise

Purple_Pills said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.

I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.

FremontTroll said:

Purple_Pills said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.

I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.

Those purple pills must be some good shit.

No, he's right that the big schools in each conference could decide to opt out into a sort of Premier League for cfb.

doogsinparadise

Maybe you eventually end up with 30-32 teams in a super conference, and decide to form a league with eight divisions. Then you link it up with the NFL and begin using promotion and relegation to give the top teams something tangible to fight over. Then you get the next 30-32 teams and do the same thing. And so on, and so. Bam.

greenblood

The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.

Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up.

RaceBannon

greenblood said:

The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.

Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up.

We have a better chance of seeing pac 12 games on the Longhorn network

FremontTroll

doogsinparadise said:

Purple_Pills said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.

I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.

FremontTroll said:

Purple_Pills said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Then the SEC jumps even further ahead of the rest.

I don't see how, especially when the new media/technology landscape may favor the top programs even more so than now. I can foresee an SEC breakup due to a shrinking TV $ pot and/or the big schools trying to get a bigger share of said pot. Heck, the whole conference model may DIAF.

Those purple pills must be some good shit.

No, he's right that the big schools in each conference could decide to opt out into a sort of Premier League for cfb.

And the conference model potentially falling apart means schools might leave the SEC for the B12 how exactly?

Mosster47

I'll solve this whole thing here really quick.

TV subscription is dying and will soon be completely dead. However, each individual network will have either a sole streaming option or will out together packages with the other networks they own. The same number of eyes or even more will he watching on a screen. The way it gets to that screen means fuck-all.

Here is how you solve everything in the current landscape. You split the country into four zones east to west, then make a north and south. You make the playoff eight teams. Each region has 16 teams. If you want to have a soccer style relegation so be it, it won't happen, but pretend if you want.

The winner of the North & South of each region makes the playoff.

The big boys are all together, the mid majors can create their own thing that will absolutely be watched, especially the post season, and FCS stays irrelevant.

Meek

RaceBannon said:

greenblood said:

The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.

Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up.

We have a better chance of seeing pac 12 games on the Longhorn network

sadly, this is true. more sad is that Larry Scott doesn't even give a shit that it's true. He's more chinterested in potential fans than actual fans.

2001400ex

greenblood said:

The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.

Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up.

It should have gone this route a few years ago when it was last discussed and Texas wanted their own network. The 4 team playoff should create the need for 4 16 team super conferences. Then it's really an 8 team playoff because the 4 conference championships effectively are an additional playoff game.

That will never happen because it will render the polls useless. And the selection committee full of important people like Ty will be rendered useless.

The current model is doing to change already. DirecTV has already stated they are going away from dishes and boxes to the internet in 4 years. I think we'll be paying for a conglomerate of channels through the internet soon.

greenblood

RaceBannon said:

greenblood said:

The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.

Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up.

We have a better chance of seeing pac 12 games on the Longhorn network

Very true

greenblood

2001400ex said:

greenblood said:

The longhorn TV deal is what's killing the conference. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma, oklahoma st, Texas tech, to jump ship to the PAC 12. The PAC 12 will then court Houston to pressure Texas into dropping their network and join the PAC 12 before the rug goes out on them.

Then Oregon, Washington, and California schools make the west division. Then the others make of the east. It makes too much sense though. Watch our commissioner screw it up.

It should have gone this route a few years ago when it was last discussed and Texas wanted their own network. The 4 team playoff should create the need for 4 16 team super conferences. Then it's really an 8 team playoff because the 4 conference championships effectively are an additional playoff game.

That will never happen because it will render the polls useless. And the selection committee full of important people like Ty will be rendered useless.

The current model is doing to change already. DirecTV has already stated they are going away from dishes and boxes to the internet in 4 years. I think we'll be paying for a conglomerate of channels through the internet soon.

The credibility of polls isn't why we don't have super conferences and an expanded playoff. We don't have an expanded playoff because we have dumb commissioners like Larry Scott that think they make more money with bowl sponsorships from AT&T, Tostitos, GoDaddy, 2000 Flushes, etc.

Super conferences are already in the making in the ACC, SEC, and Big 10. The last conference to make the jump will either be the Big 12 or the Pac 12. The reason the Big 12 hasn't disbanded yet is because schools like Baylor, TCU, Kansas, Kansas St., and Iowa St. will be left in the cold. These schools will accept anything to keep the conference together even letting Texas have their TV deal. However, schools like Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., and Texas Tech with some leverage can force Texas' hand.

Texas would not be in the Big 12 right now if they didn't have their own separate TV deal.

West Virginia is irrelevant because they would more likely be picked up by the ACC or Big 10 once the shit hit the fans. Those are actually better conferences for them geographically anyhow.