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Healthcare costs about to rise 44-62% because of ObamaCare

DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 62,337 Founders Club
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  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • MisterEmMisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    doogie said:

    nogaf

    Dont give a fuck? Sounds like you're still mooching off your parents policy.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Just like Obamacare was going to crater the economy.




    And death panels.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    MisterEm said:

    doogie said:

    nogaf

    Dont give a fuck? Sounds like you're still mooching off your parents policy.
    Trumpy has been mooching off of the taxpayers for the past 20 years, so this helps Trump IMO
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    2001400ex said:

    Just like Obamacare was going to crater the economy.




    And death panels.

    Death panels were the best feature about Obamacare.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    MisterEm said:

    doogie said:

    nogaf

    Dont give a fuck? Sounds like you're still mooching off your parents policy.
    maybe I enjoy paying higher premiums with reduced coverage, higher co-pays and higher deductibles knowing I am helping to support 18-24 year old Syrian refugees, who won't fight for their own country recieve world class healthcare for free. Have you ever thought of that?
  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,526 Standard Supporter
    OZONE said:

    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.

    There actually is some truth in that.

    I'm not necessarily in favor of a single payer system or death panels - but the amount of money spent in the last days of life is absolutely ridiculous.

  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,309
    OZONE said:

    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.

    You realize the profit margin for health insurers is around 4% right?
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 19,900 Founders Club

    OZONE said:

    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.

    You realize the profit margin for health insurers is around 4% right?
    Bullshit.
  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    OZONE said:

    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.

    You realize the profit margin for health insurers is around 4% right?
    The fact that the profit margin is only 4% (if true) doesn't mean that the health insurance industry isn't adding a lot to the cost of our national health care. It could be adding 40% to the cost, but still only have a profit margin of 4%. Sounds like you don't understand a lot about how corporations handle expenses such as executive salaries, etc.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,309
    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.

    You realize the profit margin for health insurers is around 4% right?
    The fact that the profit margin is only 4% (if true) doesn't mean that the health insurance industry isn't adding a lot to the cost of our national health care. It could be adding 40% to the cost, but still only have a profit margin of 4%. Sounds like you don't understand a lot about how corporations handle expenses such as executive salaries, etc.
    So what's a couple million dollars to a multi billion dollars?
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,309
    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.

    You realize the profit margin for health insurers is around 4% right?
    The fact that the profit margin is only 4% (if true) doesn't mean that the health insurance industry isn't adding a lot to the cost of our national health care. It could be adding 40% to the cost, but still only have a profit margin of 4%. Sounds like you don't understand a lot about how corporations handle expenses such as executive salaries, etc.
    But the government is so much more efficient.

    Look at the VA you ignorant retard. It's criminal what the government does to our vets. But who cares...sign me up!!!
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.

    You realize the profit margin for health insurers is around 4% right?
    The fact that the profit margin is only 4% (if true) doesn't mean that the health insurance industry isn't adding a lot to the cost of our national health care. It could be adding 40% to the cost, but still only have a profit margin of 4%. Sounds like you don't understand a lot about how corporations handle expenses such as executive salaries, etc.
    So what's a couple million dollars to a multi billion dollars?
    http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/payer/top-health-insurance-ceo-pay-exceeds-10-million-2014
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,309
    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.

    You realize the profit margin for health insurers is around 4% right?
    The fact that the profit margin is only 4% (if true) doesn't mean that the health insurance industry isn't adding a lot to the cost of our national health care. It could be adding 40% to the cost, but still only have a profit margin of 4%. Sounds like you don't understand a lot about how corporations handle expenses such as executive salaries, etc.
    So what's a couple million dollars to a multi billion dollars?
    http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/payer/top-health-insurance-ceo-pay-exceeds-10-million-2014
    Again...we are talking about billions. A couple million to even 20-30 million is nothing when compared to the billions in out going expenses each year. You show me where executive compensation makes up more than 1 percent of total expenses then we can talk.
  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,332 Swaye's Wigwam

    OZONE said:

    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.

    You realize the profit margin for health insurers is around 4% right?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdyaLWMt6qA
  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.

    You realize the profit margin for health insurers is around 4% right?
    The fact that the profit margin is only 4% (if true) doesn't mean that the health insurance industry isn't adding a lot to the cost of our national health care. It could be adding 40% to the cost, but still only have a profit margin of 4%. Sounds like you don't understand a lot about how corporations handle expenses such as executive salaries, etc.
    So what's a couple million dollars to a multi billion dollars?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZeDFwTcnCc
  • AlexisAlexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,090 Swaye's Wigwam
    OZONE said:

    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.

    You of course realized that if insurance companies don't make a profit, they don't have money to pay large claims. I would much rather have an insurance company that barely squeaks by and then when I need them, don't have money to pay. That's what I like.

    And like Greenblood mentioned, single payer government healthcare sure is working out wonderfully with the VA.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Alexis said:

    OZONE said:

    It's time to do away with the insurance companies and their "for profit" model for most health care and enact single payer universal health.

    We can keep the insurance companies for people that want to pay extra for some platinum plated insurance so that you can have a lung transplant when you are 95 and haven't accepted that it time for you to LEAVE.

    You of course realized that if insurance companies don't make a profit, they don't have money to pay large claims. I would much rather have an insurance company that barely squeaks by and then when I need them, don't have money to pay. That's what I like.

    And like Greenblood mentioned, single payer government healthcare sure is working out wonderfully with the VA.
    That's the point. The VA is underfunded and vets shouldn't have to deal with lesser care than what everyone else gets. Single payer solves the VA.

    I like it when someone says something thinking it's helping their point, when in reality, it's making the opposite point.
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