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Stop and frisk
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of course you have to fight to retain them from those aggressors attempting to remove/violate them.RaceBannon said:
There is nothing in the history of mankind to support rights being natural. Its a great theory, same as them being God given, but you won't have them without blood. It gives a reason to fight for them and have them but you'll be a serf or a slave if you wait for them to fall on you like ripe cherries out of a tree.Blackie said:
Disagree.RaceBannon said:
Thank you for your serviceBlackie said:
much like your boy Donald, the cunt Hillary also doesn't give a fuck about your rights.RaceBannon said:So would not it have been better for Hillary to explain why stop and frisk is wrong rather than have Candy Holt lie about it?
What is Hillary afraid of?
Rights are not God given despite the flowery language of the founding two dads, they are bought with blood
Rights are natural. They're arbitrarily removed to varying degrees at birth based on the degree to which you lose the birthplace government lottery.
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You have to fight to get them in the first place
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we're going to have to agree to fuck offRaceBannon said:You have to fight to get them in the first place
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Classy post. Thanks COUG fan!Blackie said:
we're going to have to agree to fuck offRaceBannon said:You have to fight to get them in the first place
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Sounds like Race hates REAL America.
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PurpleJ said:
Sounds like Race hates all Americans.
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Some liberal.RaceBannon said:
There is nothing in the history of mankind to support rights being natural. Its a great theory, same as them being God given, but you won't have them without blood. It gives a reason to fight for them and have them but you'll be a serf or a slave if you wait for them to fall on you like ripe cherries out of a tree.Blackie said:
Disagree.RaceBannon said:
Thank you for your serviceBlackie said:
much like your boy Donald, the cunt Hillary also doesn't give a fuck about your rights.RaceBannon said:So would not it have been better for Hillary to explain why stop and frisk is wrong rather than have Candy Holt lie about it?
What is Hillary afraid of?
Rights are not God given despite the flowery language of the founding two dads, they are bought with blood
Rights are natural. They're arbitrarily removed to varying degrees at birth based on the degree to which you lose the birthplace government lottery.
The natural order is survival of the fittest. -
Race is really just a Burkean conservative. -
I get what Race is saying, but who the fuck are you gonna fight? And with what?
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I'm the Christian believer here arguing that there is no such thing as God given or natural rights with folks who believe in natural selection and survival of the fittest. Which I do as well.PurpleJ said:I get what Race is saying, but who the fuck are you gonna fight? And with what?
I am all on the flowery language of the TWO DADS and other great thinkers of liberty and freedom for mankind. I am all in on AMERICA being formed on the concept that our rights are the natural order of things and we should govern accordingly.
I also used to post during OREGON week that the NATURAL ORDER will be restored when we beat them -
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This just got interesting.Blackie said:
we're going to have to agree to have a fuck offRaceBannon said:You have to fight to get them in the first place
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IMO, our rights were/are provided by blood spilled by warriors who fought to provide them for us.
Now what kind of shitweasel thinks it's OK to take those rights lightly because they're afraid?
The Patriot Act is an atrocity and naming it that should have come with a death sentence for those that voted for it. Stop and frisk policies are in the same category, too.
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RaceBannon said:
You have to fight for your right to party
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And what are you fighting for? Rights as a free citizen or an animal-instinct driven survival of the fittest? I am all-in for the former and crushing you in the latter.PurpleJ said:I get what Race is saying, but who the fuck are you gonna fight? And with what?
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CirrhosisDawg said:
And what are you fighting for? Rights as a free citizen or an animal-instinct driven survival of the fittest? I am all-in for the former and crushing you in the latter.PurpleJ said:I get what Race is saying, but who the fuck are you gonna fight? And with what?
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CirrhosisDawg said:
And what are you fighting for? Rights as a free citizen or an animal-instinct driven survival of the fittest? I am all-in for the former and crushing you in the latter.PurpleJ said:I get what Race is saying, but who the fuck are you gonna fight? And with what?
CirrhosisDawg said:Calm down man. You are so angry. Typical 16 year old who's posting anonymously on a website for the first time.
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well, somebody fought for them anyway. Now, the kids that do join run go pros and get shot at for sport cause Discovery Channel needs more programmingRaceBannon said:You have to fight to get them in the first place
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Stop and frisk is fucktarded. But Trump supports it so Race is all in on taking away rights.
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Where did I say I was for it?2001400ex said:Stop and frisk is fucktarded. But Trump supports it so Race is all in on taking away rights.
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That's right. You are just for Trump and therefore won't disagree with his policies.RaceBannon said:
Where did I say I was for it?2001400ex said:Stop and frisk is fucktarded. But Trump supports it so Race is all in on taking away rights.
Race, can you at just once admit Trump says or does something fucktarded. Please show me you are not the lemming you act like on here. -
So you lied about it not being constitutional and you lied about me supporting it.2001400ex said:
That's right. You are just for Trump and therefore won't disagree with his policies.RaceBannon said:
Where did I say I was for it?2001400ex said:Stop and frisk is fucktarded. But Trump supports it so Race is all in on taking away rights.
Race, can you at just once admit Trump says or does something fucktarded. Please show me you are not the lemming you act like on here.
How about you kill yourself and do us all a favor -
Except the bill was ruled unconstitutional and you sure are arguing that it's not an awful lot for someone who doesn't support something.RaceBannon said:
So you lied about it not being constitutional and you lied about me supporting it.2001400ex said:
That's right. You are just for Trump and therefore won't disagree with his policies.RaceBannon said:
Where did I say I was for it?2001400ex said:Stop and frisk is fucktarded. But Trump supports it so Race is all in on taking away rights.
Race, can you at just once admit Trump says or does something fucktarded. Please show me you are not the lemming you act like on here.
How about you kill yourself and do us all a favor -
I was stopped and frisked, but I later found out it wasn't even a real cop.. just some dude in a costume.
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I would support STOP and FRISK if we only apply it to white people in nice neighborhoods.
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And he goes back to the lie. Stop and frisk is constitutional. One lower judge ruled against it.2001400ex said:
Except the bill was ruled unconstitutional and you sure are arguing that it's not an awful lot for someone who doesn't support something.RaceBannon said:
So you lied about it not being constitutional and you lied about me supporting it.2001400ex said:
That's right. You are just for Trump and therefore won't disagree with his policies.RaceBannon said:
Where did I say I was for it?2001400ex said:Stop and frisk is fucktarded. But Trump supports it so Race is all in on taking away rights.
Race, can you at just once admit Trump says or does something fucktarded. Please show me you are not the lemming you act like on here.
How about you kill yourself and do us all a favor
Typical low information voter.
I never defended it. I pointed out that you're a lying sack of shit like your girl.
Next lie up -
But according to candidate Hillary Clinton and moderator Lester Holt during Monday night’s presidential debate, stop and frisk is “unconstitutional.” They are wrong. In Mrs. Clinton’s case, it’s the usual misrepresenting she does when she does not know what she is talking about. As for Mr. Holt, if a moderator is going to interfere, he should do some homework and not pretend to know the law when he does not. Mr. Holt and NBC cannot overrule the U.S. Supreme Court.
Stop and frisk is based on an 8-1 decision of the Supreme Court, Terry v. Ohio. That ruling hasn’t been overturned or even modified by the court since it was handed down in 1968. Stop and frisk is constitutional and the law of the land. The majority opinion, written by then-Chief Justice Earl Warren, approved the constitutionality of stopping a suspect if the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that a person has committed, or was about to commit, a crime. If the officer also has a reasonable suspicion the person is armed, he can conduct a pat-down—that is, a frisk—of a person’s outer clothing.
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PHOTO: GETTY IMAGES
In many places, this practice is called a “Terry stop,” based on the decision upholding its constitutionality. It is a police technique used by all law enforcement agencies nationwide.
Over a 20-year use of this policy, spanning the administration of two New York City mayors and four police commissioners, stop and frisk played a material part in reducing homicides in New York City. It helped to change New York City from the crime capital of America to the safest large city in the country. In each of those 20 years, approximately six of 10 murder victims in New York City were African-Americans. In other words, stop and frisk saved many black lives.
In the case discussed during Monday’s debate, federal Judge Shira Scheindlin found in 2013 that the way Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Commissioner Ray Kelly applied stop and frisk was unconstitutional. The practice had been expanded to 600,000, the vast majority being of African-Americans. Previously, during my administration, for eight years under Commissioners William Bratton, Howard Safir and Bernard Kerik, the stops and frisks always fell short of 100,000.
During my administration, the U.S. Justice Department spent two years examining stop and frisk and it filed no case. After continued use of the practice during the administration of Mayor Bloomberg and Commissioner Kelly, Judge Scheindlin found that the volume of stops and the focus on the African-American community made the practice not unconstitutional in general but unconstitutional as applied. This is the distinction that is so important—yet was misunderstood by Mr. Holt and misrepresented by Mrs. Clinton. -
A double post, both defending stop and frisk. But you aren't defending stop and frisk. Holy fuck, Trump does poast here.RaceBannon said:
And he goes back to the lie. Stop and frisk is constitutional. One lower judge ruled against it.2001400ex said:
Except the bill was ruled unconstitutional and you sure are arguing that it's not an awful lot for someone who doesn't support something.RaceBannon said:
So you lied about it not being constitutional and you lied about me supporting it.2001400ex said:
That's right. You are just for Trump and therefore won't disagree with his policies.RaceBannon said:
Where did I say I was for it?2001400ex said:Stop and frisk is fucktarded. But Trump supports it so Race is all in on taking away rights.
Race, can you at just once admit Trump says or does something fucktarded. Please show me you are not the lemming you act like on here.
How about you kill yourself and do us all a favor
Typical low information voter.
I never defended it. I pointed out that you're a lying sack of shit like your girl.
Next lie up
But this is from your link, I said stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional. Your link says the same. Weird.
In the case discussed during Monday’s debate, federal Judge Shira Scheindlin found in 2013 that the way Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Commissioner Ray Kelly applied stop and frisk was unconstitutional -
So, it wasn't S&F at all. It was the Bloomberg bastardization the low court had a problem with. Got it.
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Stop and frisk is bullshit and we shouldn't have it even if it does reduce crime. With that said, this is a total non-issue because Trump isn't going to implement a national stop and frisk policy if he's elected.
