I've seen enough of HS football in my life to know that even the best players can look like shit for any number of factors but still have no problem being a good/great player at the college level when surrounded with like level talent.
Watching most of the GK-Sumner game last night, if you just went on the numbers you'd think Connor Wedington sucked ... then he turned in one great play at the end where you just realize that yes, he'll be fine at the next level.
You're right ... I didn't watch the game between Bothell and Woodinville. If you're saying that Sirmon was under pressure all night that tells me that Woodinville had superior line play and that probably put him in a position to look "ordinary" as you say. Let's be honest, most HS QBs (particularly in the state of Washington) are generally not spectacular when it comes to being able to manipulate the pocket and play well under pressure because MOST of the surrounding talent is very subpar.
With all due respect, if I'm going to take advice on TBS related matters, I'm going to listen to @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @Dennis_DeYoung who spend a ton of time watching game tape and films on recruits. If they like Sirmon, that's good enough for me.
I've said this elsewhere before and I'll say it again, generally speaking, Washington HS football isn't particularly good. The elite players are good enough to play against anybody. But the talent gap between the elite players and the remaining players is vast. Even Kingco in Washington isn't in a position where each roster is littered with high end D1 prospects similar to what can be found in top leagues in places like California, Texas, and Florida.
Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.
Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.
Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
So if he's not getting any blocking and his receivers are getting open ... then you're expecting a lot out of a QB to do a lot that was positive - yes?
Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.
Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
He didn't handle adversity well at all. Last year I came away with the impression that his bad game was from being young. This year I came away with concern about his mental makeup. He was flustered early and often. Strong arm but everything that DeepSeaZ said above (except I don't think he's "complete shit"). Younger posters may not recognize this name, but Sirmon reminds me of a Gale Gilbert type.
Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.
Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
He didn't handle adversity well at all. Last year I came away with the impression that his bad game was from being young. This year I came away with concern about his mental makeup. He was flustered early and often. Strong arm but everything that DeepSeaZ said above (except I don't think he's "complete shit"). Younger posters may not recognize this name, but Sirmon reminds me of a Gale Gilbert type.
I've seen enough of HS football in my life to know that even the best players can look like shit for any number of factors but still have no problem being a good/great player at the college level when surrounded with like level talent.
Watching most of the GK-Sumner game last night, if you just went on the numbers you'd think Connor Wedington sucked ... then he turned in one great play at the end where you just realize that yes, he'll be fine at the next level.
You're right ... I didn't watch the game between Bothell and Woodinville. If you're saying that Sirmon was under pressure all night that tells me that Woodinville had superior line play and that probably put him in a position to look "ordinary" as you say. Let's be honest, most HS QBs (particularly in the state of Washington) are generally not spectacular when it comes to being able to manipulate the pocket and play well under pressure because MOST of the surrounding talent is very subpar.
With all due respect, if I'm going to take advice on TBS related matters, I'm going to listen to @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @Dennis_DeYoung who spend a ton of time watching game tape and films on recruits. If they like Sirmon, that's good enough for me.
I've said this elsewhere before and I'll say it again, generally speaking, Washington HS football isn't particularly good. The elite players are good enough to play against anybody. But the talent gap between the elite players and the remaining players is vast. Even Kingco in Washington isn't in a position where each roster is littered with high end D1 prospects similar to what can be found in top leagues in places like California, Texas, and Florida.
Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.
Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
He didn't handle adversity well at all. Last year I came away with the impression that his bad game was from being young. This year I came away with concern about his mental makeup. He was flustered early and often. Strong arm but everything that DeepSeaZ said above (except I don't think he's "complete shit"). Younger posters may not recognize this name, but Sirmon reminds me of a Gale Gilbert type.
Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.
Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
So if he's not getting any blocking and his receivers are getting open ... then you're expecting a lot out of a QB to do a lot that was positive - yes?
He had plenty of times where he had plenty of time and he did nothing good. Go watch him play a full game then tell me if he has the "it" factor.
Watching Sirmon now. He's complete shit. Every throw is 30-50yds down field. No form. Seems to be a big fan of himself though.
Yeah, he totally sucks. You're right.
Highlight films are just that. This was a low light film. Kid is big and he has astrong arm but he didn't show anything positive tonight. Zero escapability. No pocket presence. No touch. Bad decision making. No accuracy. To be fair, his receivers were rarely open but I was not impressed at all.
He didn't handle adversity well at all. Last year I came away with the impression that his bad game was from being young. This year I came away with concern about his mental makeup. He was flustered early and often. Strong arm but everything that DeepSeaZ said above (except I don't think he's "complete shit"). Younger posters may not recognize this name, but Sirmon reminds me of a Gale Gilbert type.
The complete shit comment was uncalled for. He just really failed to meet expectations.
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Watching most of the GK-Sumner game last night, if you just went on the numbers you'd think Connor Wedington sucked ... then he turned in one great play at the end where you just realize that yes, he'll be fine at the next level.
You're right ... I didn't watch the game between Bothell and Woodinville. If you're saying that Sirmon was under pressure all night that tells me that Woodinville had superior line play and that probably put him in a position to look "ordinary" as you say. Let's be honest, most HS QBs (particularly in the state of Washington) are generally not spectacular when it comes to being able to manipulate the pocket and play well under pressure because MOST of the surrounding talent is very subpar.
With all due respect, if I'm going to take advice on TBS related matters, I'm going to listen to @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @Dennis_DeYoung who spend a ton of time watching game tape and films on recruits. If they like Sirmon, that's good enough for me.
I've said this elsewhere before and I'll say it again, generally speaking, Washington HS football isn't particularly good. The elite players are good enough to play against anybody. But the talent gap between the elite players and the remaining players is vast. Even Kingco in Washington isn't in a position where each roster is littered with high end D1 prospects similar to what can be found in top leagues in places like California, Texas, and Florida.
for the next pod derek PLEASE devote a segment for the two of you to talk about sirmon. very curious.
He's a natural fit for UW